Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Consumer group sues California health insurer


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Consumer group sues California health insurer Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/2/2010 5:48:16 PM   
Brain


Posts: 3792
Joined: 2/14/2007
Status: offline
Whopi ding crap.  Like a bunch of corporate judges are going to rule in favor of people getting better insurance rates. And even if these California judges did the right wing Supreme Court would overturn it.
 
 
Consumer group sues California health insurer
Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES
Mon Mar 1, 2010 10:44pm EST
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Consumer advocates filed a class-action suit against Anthem Blue Cross on Monday, accusing California's largest for-profit health insurer of illegally using drastic rate hikes to force customers into inferior health plans.
 
U.S.

The suit comes two days before top executives from several major U.S. health insurers, including Anthem's parent company, WellPoint Inc., were to meet in Washington with Obama administration officials to discuss escalating premiums.

Anthem's plan to boost its individual premiums by as much as 39 percent has spawned inquiries by state regulators and congressional committees. The White House and Democrats on Capitol Hill also have seized on Anthem's proposed rate hikes in seeking to bolster support for a renewed drive to overhaul the nation's health care system.

The lawsuit in California claims Anthem violated state law by closing certain blocks of its individual health plans to new members without offering comparable coverage to policyholders who opted to remain.

Over time, the pool of older, sicker customers who choose to stay end up trapped in the closed policies, prevented by pre-existing medical conditions from finding affordable plans elsewhere and subjected to rising rates until finally forced to accept lesser insurance or to drop coverage altogether. If they do switch, it is often to plans with fewer benefits, higher deductibles or both, the suit says.

'GUN TO OUR HEADS'

"Blue Cross has a gun to our heads," Mary Feller of San Rafael, Calif., one of the named plaintiffs in the suit filed in Ventura County Superior Court by the advocacy group Consumer Watchdog on behalf of policyholders.

"We could either stay with our old coverage or switch to a new policy with much lower benefits. What Blue Cross did not tell us was that staying with our better policy would mean a 39 percent rate increase," Feller said in a statement announcing the class-action complaint.

There was no immediate comment from the insurance company, or from the state Department of Managed Health Care, which regulates Anthem Blue Cross policies. But industry executives have said climbing premiums reflect soaring medical costs.

Since 1993 California law has required insurers to protect individual policyholders from being caught in circumstances the industry refers to as a "death spiral," the suit says.
Insurers must either offer customers of closed plans a comparable alternative or pool the risk of those individuals with customers in policies that remain open in order to minimize their premium hikes, the suit says.

About 800,000 Californians hold health insurance policies with Anthem Blue Cross, accounting for the biggest share of some 2 million people with individual coverage in the state, said Jerry Flanagan, health care policy director for Consumer Watchdog.

By comparison, health maintenance organizations (HMOs) make up the bulk of California health plans, covering some 21 million patients. But individual policies are often the only option for those who are self-employed or do not receive health care coverage through their jobs.

The lawsuit, Feller and Freed vs. Anthem Blue Cross, Case No. 56-2010-00368587-CU-BT-SIM, seeks unspecified restitution for the plaintiffs and a court order barring future alleged violations of the state health and safety code.
(Editing by Carol Bishopric)
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6210DJ20100302
 
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/3/2010 7:41:11 AM   
Termyn8or


Posts: 18681
Joined: 11/12/2005
Status: offline
Options ?

Regulate the living bejeepshit out of them.

Or.

Let them price themselves out of the market.

This lawsuit is not likely to bother them much. The utility companies in Ohio have to apply for rate increases from PUCO. Dp they have less rights than health insurers ? Or how about righ risk auto insurance. Their lobbyists got mandatory insurance in, but now they have to take some of the uninsurables. But health insurers can drop all or parts of your coverage at will, which is like getting cancelled for a minor fender bender.

In the end I suspect the same result. Deregulate them and they will need a bailout. Tighten the regulations and they will need a bailout. Let them go out of business and let the market settle with the suits still making the lion's share of the profits and the hospitals will need a bailout. People see free money they want it. Insurance gets free money whenever someone does not file a claim.

My boss'es health insurance went up drastically recently. He called them citing the fact that he has never made a claim. Their response was "You are about due".

The fact is they are all bullies vying for our lunch money. It is the same attitude.

T

(in reply to Brain)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/3/2010 6:13:27 PM   
willbeurdaddy


Posts: 11894
Joined: 4/8/2006
Status: offline
"We could either stay with our old coverage or switch to a new policy with much lower benefits. What Blue Cross did not tell us was that staying with our better policy would mean a 39 percent rate increase," Feller said in a statement announcing the class-action complaint.


uhhh, how were the going to charge the increased premium without telling them? This is bullshit.

(in reply to Termyn8or)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/3/2010 8:16:33 PM   
Arpig


Posts: 9930
Joined: 1/3/2006
From: Increasingly further from reality
Status: offline
Smiles and happily pays his monthly health insurance premium of....$0.00

_____________________________

Big man! Pig Man!
Ha Ha...Charade you are!


Why do they leave out the letter b on "Garage Sale" signs?

CM's #1 All-Time Also-Ran


(in reply to willbeurdaddy)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/3/2010 8:37:09 PM   
Sanity


Posts: 22039
Joined: 6/14/2006
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
Status: offline

Oh yeah. I've heard that everything's free in cuckoo land...


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Smiles and happily pays his monthly health insurance premium of....$0.00


_____________________________

Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

(in reply to Arpig)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/4/2010 1:22:58 AM   
philosophy


Posts: 5284
Joined: 2/15/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh yeah. I've heard that everything's free in cuckoo land...


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Smiles and happily pays his monthly health insurance premium of....$0.00




...i'm sorry, i can't hear you over the sound of my free health benefits and all these Olympic Gold medals.

(in reply to Sanity)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/4/2010 2:22:18 AM   
Fellow


Posts: 1486
Joined: 9/21/2009
Status: offline
It is easy to guess what is really happening. Just look if health care providers have increased their prices by 39%. It is true: poor in Canada do not pay premiums. Others do in some states but the bulk of money comes from taxes. Everybody pays sales tax, of course. So, there is no free lunch. Good thing is everybody gets the same care independently of their social status.

(in reply to philosophy)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Consumer group sues California health insurer - 3/4/2010 3:16:06 AM   
eyesopened


Posts: 2798
Joined: 6/12/2006
From: Tampa, FL
Status: offline
BlueCross BlueShield of California and its Anthem entity has been sued many times.  They have lost these lawsuits.  They pay out restitution.  But why has the state contineued to let them do business there? 

First, the BlueCross BlueShield Association needs to drop these criminals from the association and the State of California needs to revoke their license.

The State of California has the power to ban irresponsible and/or criminal insurance companies from doing business in their state.

_____________________________

Proudly owned by InkedMaster. He is the one i obey, serve, honor and love.

No one is honored for what they've received. Honor is the reward for what has been given.

(in reply to Brain)
Profile   Post #: 8
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Consumer group sues California health insurer Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.063