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Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 6:09:56 AM

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-02-postal_N.htm

Postal Service's debt reducer: Drop Saturday

Reminds me of Dr. Obama's prescription for high health care costs - take a pill rather than undergo that expensive procedure, especially if you're old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 6:21:58 AM

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I read this to be drop Sat AND rate increase.

supposedly there is no inflation but stamps keep going up in price. maybe it is time to abolish the post office.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 6:23:05 AM

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I say just dissolve the entire USPS. The private sector ( UPS and FedEX ) who answer to shareholders and have to make a profit will do a fine job delivering our mail on time. We might even have shorter lines when we buy stamps or send a package ??

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 6:28:13 AM

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Nah, Tom.....this is a result of that tired old republican shit of taking it off book so nobody can see how bad they fucked it up, and looking like they cut something.....this whole fiasco is Richard Fuckng Nixon.

Take it off book, lose government oversight, and you can't fix problems that you cant see. out of sight out of mind, and appear fiscally responsible, and dump it on somebody else and blame them.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:08:07 AM

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I say just dissolve the entire USPS. The private sector ( UPS and FedEX ) who answer to shareholders and have to make a profit will do a fine job delivering our mail on time. We might even have shorter lines when we buy stamps or send a package ??

I disagree. Simply open up stamped mail to competition. Let private enterprise compete with the Postal Service.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:12:37 AM

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I did a quick check to see if it would be way better for UPS or FedEx to send my grandson a birthday card.

It would seem like even 75-cents would be a real bargain. UPS and FedEx charge extra for Saturday delivery. We really need to stop comparing the USPS to these two companies.

Next time you need to mail something, go to your UPS store....

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:26:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Reminds me of Dr. Obama's prescription for high health care costs - take a pill rather than undergo that expensive procedure, especially if you're old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

Sooooooooo........................somehow we have a correlation between the USPS cutting Saturday delivery and health care costs for 100 year-olds.

Yes, it's all so clear, I don't know how I didn't see it before.

Then of course you post a spliced YouTube clip which takes the comments of all the parties completely out of context.

Which must be because you couldn't find the original interview, right?

Because we know you wouldn't do anything so disingenuous as to try and misrepresent what was said to further your own agenda.

TRANSCRIPT: 'Questions for the President: Prescription for America

OBAMA: ......We're not going to solve every single one of these very difficult decisions at end of life, and ultimately that's going to be between physicians and patients. But we can make real progress on this front if we work a little bit harder.

SAWYER: Is that a conversation you could have had with your mom?

STURM: What I wanted to say was, that the arrhythmia specialist who put the pacemaker in said that it cost Medicare $30,000 at the time.

She had been in the hospital two or three times a month before that, so let's say 20, 30 times being in the hospital, maybe going to rehab, the cost was so much more. And that's what would have happened had she not had the pacemaker.

OBAMA: Well, and that's a good example of where -- if we've got experts who are looking at this, and they are advising doctors across the board that the pacemaker may ultimately save money, then we potentially could have done that faster.

I mean, this can cut both ways. The point is, we want to use science, we want doctors and -- and medical experts to be making decisions that all too often right now are driven by skewed policies, by out-dated means of reimbursement, or by insurance companies.

And everybody's families, I think, have had to experience this in one way or another. That's -- that's the reason we need reform right now.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:32:20 AM

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I hope your grandsons birthday doesn't fall on a Saturday. He'll have to wait until Monday for his card. I hope Monday isn't a federal holiday. He'll have to wait until Tuesday for his card.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:34:40 AM

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I hope your grandsons birthday doesn't fall on a Saturday. He'll have to wait until Monday for his card. I hope Monday isn't a federal holiday. He'll have to wait until Tuesday for his card.

Which of course would be..........just tragic!!!

No mail delivery on Saturdays................big effing deal.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:36:10 AM

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Oh, good!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!!! no bills all weekend, it's about fucking time, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT OBAMA....you're the greatest!!!!!

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:37:47 AM

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That's kinda what I was thinking Ron!!!

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:38:05 AM

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I am a slave. I know how to plan ahead. My grandson has one of these birthdays every year on the same date.

The point is.... if we ran the USPS like FedEx or UPS we would pay at least $8.00 a letter, would have to drive to a drop-off point and since neither company is prepared for the full volume of mail I could not expect any better service and most likely much worse.

Face it, somebody shows up at my door and takes any letters I want sent, and drops off mail sent to me and supposedly this happens at every home and business in the whole United States and we can do this for less than a dollar a letter? I'm not sure how that sucks?

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:43:17 AM

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That's kinda what I was thinking Ron!!!

Well, I am gonna start charging to show these amatures how to spin, but first they have to have something TO SPIN, but other than one in a thousand or so..............zilch.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 7:52:27 AM

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Let private enterprise compete with the Postal Service.

The problem with that is service would vanish in rural areas.

Mail volume is down, costs are up. Nothing the PO can do about that. But a lot of the proposals they're floating make sense.

*Why do we need Sat delivery? Canada doesn't have it, for example. Why do we need Wednesday, for that matter?
*There are more post offices than grocery stores and drug stores combined. Let them close some of those losing money, merging with others.
*The PO is expected to prepay pensions. No other industry or government agency is expected to set aside that kind of cash.
*While people complain, postal rates for letters is very cheap---or people would turn to alternatives. Raise rates. 50 cents for a letter is not unreasonable.

As for what this has to do with health care as in the OP---not a damn thing.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 8:43:13 AM

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IMO dump Sat sooner then a rate increase.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 11:04:43 AM

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On line bill payment and emails have are eating away at the first class mail and that's just going to continue. The Postal Service has done a pretty good job of trying to come up with ways to curb that, but they can't do it without permission from Congress.

Don't kid yourself for a moment that UPS or FEDEX want to deliver your credit card payment or that birthday card to Uncle Harvey for fifty cents. They'll be happy to do it at the two pound limit.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 12:00:25 PM

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Oh, good!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!!! no bills all weekend, it's about fucking time, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT OBAMA....you're the greatest!!!!!

Ron

what are you talking about. many bills are now sent via email... and they want to "deduct" it from your account.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 2:06:17 PM

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Another in a long line of "the sky is falling" threads from that paragon of virtue and truth....Sanity!!!!Funny how the sky started falling right about when a Democrat of mixed race took the oath of office....oh for those heady carefree days of Bush/Cheney...when everything was hunky dory and a white Republican sat in the Oval Office!

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 2:07:58 PM

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Oh, good!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!!! no bills all weekend, it's about fucking time, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT OBAMA....you're the greatest!!!!!

Ron

what are you talking about. many bills are now sent via email... and they want to "deduct" it from your account.

Not so many as you think, in my case I actually recieve ZERO bills thru email. Ain't never gonna happen.

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RE: Govt Mailcare Insolvent: Cut Saturdays? - 3/3/2010 4:52:23 PM

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Let private enterprise compete with the Postal Service.

The problem with that is service would vanish in rural areas.

Mail volume is down, costs are up. Nothing the PO can do about that. But a lot of the proposals they're floating make sense.

*Why do we need Sat delivery? Canada doesn't have it, for example. Why do we need Wednesday, for that matter?
*There are more post offices than grocery stores and drug stores combined. Let them close some of those losing money, merging with others.
*The PO is expected to prepay pensions. No other industry or government agency is expected to set aside that kind of cash.
*While people complain, postal rates for letters is very cheap---or people would turn to alternatives. Raise rates. 50 cents for a letter is not unreasonable.

As for what this has to do with health care as in the OP---not a damn thing.

Incidentally, I was down buying stamps from my rural PO and asked the Postmaster if the PO might close. He said "No, not likely, it's more places like..." and rattled off a list of half a dozen that indeed would not be missed and would have customers driving a couple miles at most to a new PO.

NPR yesterday reported that among the proposals is putting small PO stations in grocery stores, drug stores, etc. in place of the low volume offices. Also seems to make sense.

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