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24/7 - 3/30/2006 8:55:01 AM   
PlayfulOne


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Status: offline 		What exactly does 24/7 mean to you? 

I know most seem to interpet this as the slave/sub being kept in service constantly.  I also note people commenting on the fact they do not wish to live like that as they want to also enjoy some vanilla interest.

Our relationship, I don't expect her to always be on, or constantly kneeling waiting to serve so no we do not fit the 24/7 definition I see people most using.  At the same time her being mine is not dependent on what we are doing.  We may be cooking dinner together and having a wonderful playful time, but there is never a moment in that exchange that she does not belong to me and where I am not in charge.  She belongs to me every moment of every day we relate to one another in that way, so in our little world that is how we think of 24/7

K
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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 8:57:30 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		24/7 to me means an ongoing committed relationship in which everyone has agreed on expectations of being in an ongoing committed relationship.

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:00:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		24/7 means they live with each other  24 hours 7 days of the week the Dynamic of the relationship is up to the Top and bottom..


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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:02:59 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

What exactly does 24/7 mean to you?

I know most seem to interpet this as the slave/sub being kept in service constantly. I also note people commenting on the fact they do not wish to live like that as they want to also enjoy some vanilla interest.

Our relationship, I don't expect her to always be on, or constantly kneeling waiting to serve so no we do not fit the 24/7 definition I see people most using. At the same time her being mine is not dependent on what we are doing. We may be cooking dinner together and having a wonderful playful time, but there is never a moment in that exchange that she does not belong to me and where I am not in charge. She belongs to me every moment of every day we relate to one another in that way, so in our little world that is how we think of 24/7

K
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This is very similar to how I use it.

Fox is mine, he belongs to me, regardless of how "vanilla" it might seem to anyone else, our relationship is founded on the owner-slave dynamic. How we interpret that is entirely dependant on us and what we want.

I'm not into high procotols or constant rituals or directing his life beyond what is necessary to make my life easier and better (his too by the way).

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:04:42 AM   
PlayfulOne


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ORIGINAL: MadameShy

24/7 means they live with each other  24 hours 7 days of the week the Dynamic of the relationship is up to the Top and bottom..




Why?  

I don't live here,  though I am here a large amount of time.  That doesn't change a thing, whether I am here or not there is never a moment she does not belong to me or conduct herself in a manner that reflects it.

K

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:21:34 AM   
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I don't expect her to always be on


This statement implies there is an option; a 'switch' if you would to indicate if the 'game' is on or not. For a 24/7 couple, there isn't. It doesn't require physically "kneeling waiting to serve", but it requires an equivalent mental state. It also requires a corresponding mental state on your part as the Master.

There really is no mental/emotional state of "vanilla" in our 24/7 lifestyle. Their are vanilla activities, vanilla friends, vanilla duties to family and work; but the fundamental dynamic of our relationship doesn't change.

The dynamic is comparable to the ocean. Sometimes on the surface it's wild, stormy, and frothing. Other times, is calm, with nearly a ripple on the surface; but below the surface there is a powerful undercurrent ALWAYS present. The undercurrent, unseen by the vanilla world around us, is as erotic, exciting, and powerful as 25 foot waves crashing on the rocks. Often it leads to some very fun non-vanilla experiences.

We have a number of "subtleties" always present that contribute to that powerful undercurrent.

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:23:55 AM   
BrianSenior


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Status: offline 		I look at it like this, occaisonal date, going steady, getting married. To Me 24/7 is the eqiavelant of being married (assuming there is a permanat collar). There is a lot of little things not seen or felt while dating, or going steady. When you are in a live in situation, you see things differently. The old saying about leaving the cap off the tooth paste comes to Mind. Until you are 24/7 ... you are not 24/7. Being around the submissive when you are not at work, coming home from work and or vice versa, is much more then visiting her daily, or nightly. Making dinner together every night- rather then making dinner on occasions or 4 nights a week. Sleeping in the same bed everynight, and waking up with them next to you, that is 24/7. ~BK~

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:28:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BrianSenior
Sleeping in the same bed everynight, and waking up with them next to you, that is 24/7. ~BK~


I distinguish between "24/7 relationship" and "live in relationship."

You're right, they aren't the same.  Just like masochism isn't the same as submission.  But they go together very easily.

A man who is married to a woman in the armed forces who is called away on duty still has a 24/7 relationship as a married man- even if they don't live together or even see eachother.

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:40:30 AM   
thetammyjo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

I don't expect her to always be on


This statement implies there is an option; a 'switch' if you would to indicate if the 'game' is on or not. For a 24/7 couple, there isn't. It doesn't require physically "kneeling waiting to serve", but it requires an equivalent mental state. It also requires a corresponding mental state on your part as the Master.

There really is no mental/emotional state of "vanilla" in our 24/7 lifestyle. Their are vanilla activities, vanilla friends, vanilla duties to family and work; but the fundamental dynamic of our relationship doesn't change.

The dynamic is comparable to the ocean. Sometimes on the surface it's wild, stormy, and frothing. Other times, is calm, with nearly a ripple on the surface; but below the surface there is a powerful undercurrent ALWAYS present. The undercurrent, unseen by the vanilla world around us, is as erotic, exciting, and powerful as 25 foot waves crashing on the rocks. Often it leads to some very fun non-vanilla experiences.

We have a number of "subtleties" always present that contribute to that powerful undercurrent.


My guess is that the "on" comment is more about high levels of protocol not about the mental dynamics of the relationship.

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:44:34 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: BrianSenior
Sleeping in the same bed everynight, and waking up with them next to you, that is 24/7. ~BK~


I distinguish between "24/7 relationship" and "live in relationship."

You're right, they aren't the same. Just like masochism isn't the same as submission. But they go together very easily.

A man who is married to a woman in the armed forces who is called away on duty still has a 24/7 relationship as a married man- even if they don't live together or even see eachother.


This is how I see it.

24/7 describes the roles, how often that identity is recongized by the couple as the foundation of or the definition of that couple.

Fox doesn't stop being my slave when he's at work, I don't stop being his owner when I'm at a meeting with students or my committee.

I have multiple identities -- teacher, student, daughter, friend, wife, sister, neighbor and with Fox, owner. We may be separated from those who we have these roles with for some reason but the role is still there and underlines that relationship.

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:50:15 AM   
peasantsub


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Status: offline 		24/7 to me means that i am available to my Master's every whim 24 hours a day/ 7 days a week be it by phone, making a trip to see Him, or being online to talk to Him via chat.  Every thing i do reflects my relationship and servitude to Him 24/7.  i belong to Him no matter the time, day, week, month, or year.  i live here, He lives in TX, but at a moments notice, i will drop what i am doing and go to Him, should  He beckon.  He knows this and knows that because of this i would risk losing my job to follow His instructions.  this is what makes me His at all times.  just my opinion on the topic.

lanie

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:52:28 AM   
Sunshine119


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Status: offline 		Whatever I do, I know I am always his.  I run a social service organization, but I am aware that I am his.  I come home from work and prepare his dinner, knowing I am doing it for him.  I do all of the "vanilla" activities, always aware that I am his.  Whether I am ironing or engaging in sexual activity....I am his. To me, the smell of the spray starch meeting the iron is highly erotic for me, always reminding me I am doing this thing for him.

I wake up, go to the bathroom first and run his shower...every morning.  We have our routines that may seem rather "vanilla" to others.  To me, it is my service to him.  Closing my eyes at night, wrapped in his arms and waking the same way.  I am his.

Sorry to sound so mundane, but to me.....this is 24/7.


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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:55:45 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: Sunshine119

Whatever I do, I know I am always his. I run a social service organization, but I am aware that I am his. I come home from work and prepare his dinner, knowing I am doing it for him. I do all of the "vanilla" activities, always aware that I am his. Whether I am ironing or engaging in sexual activity....I am his. To me, the smell of the spray starch meeting the iron is highly erotic for me, always reminding me I am doing this thing for him.

I wake up, go to the bathroom first and run his shower...every morning. We have our routines that may seem rather "vanilla" to others. To me, it is my service to him. Closing my eyes at night, wrapped in his arms and waking the same way. I am his.

Sorry to sound so mundane, but to me.....this is 24/7.



Most of life is mundane.

I think folks who live 24/7 (however they live it, together, apart, same city or not, monogamous or not) know that its mostly mundane. Its identity and attitude which make it Ds not clothing or activities.

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:56:21 AM   
PlayfulOne


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

I don't expect her to always be on


This statement implies there is an option; a 'switch' if you would to indicate if the 'game' is on or not. For a 24/7 couple, there isn't. It doesn't require physically "kneeling waiting to serve", but it requires an equivalent mental state. It also requires a corresponding mental state on your part as the Master.

There really is no mental/emotional state of "vanilla" in our 24/7 lifestyle. Their are vanilla activities, vanilla friends, vanilla duties to family and work; but the fundamental dynamic of our relationship doesn't change.

The dynamic is comparable to the ocean. Sometimes on the surface it's wild, stormy, and frothing. Other times, is calm, with nearly a ripple on the surface; but below the surface there is a powerful undercurrent ALWAYS present. The undercurrent, unseen by the vanilla world around us, is as erotic, exciting, and powerful as 25 foot waves crashing on the rocks. Often it leads to some very fun non-vanilla experiences.

We have a number of "subtleties" always present that contribute to that powerful undercurrent.


I understand what your saying, and I probably did not make my point as well as you expressed it.  There were times in the beginning when if my little one had an off switch I would have used it.  She was like an over eager puppy bouncing around trying to serve and please.  Now she is graceful, subtle, and moves about with a wonderful elegance. 

There is always current beneath, no matter how normal things may appear to others, that current is always there.  The regular folk may not see it, but any other "like minded" person would pick it up.  Some of our most intense interactions have come after the most normal of events.

K

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 9:59:56 AM   
PlayfulOne


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My guess is that the "on" comment is more about high levels of protocol not about the mental dynamics of the relationship.
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yes ms tammyjo,
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K

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 10:20:23 AM   
SweetEscravo


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Status: offline 		The way I define it is this:  My Dom and I are 24/7 because no matter what, whether he is here or not, I follow his rules and expectations for me.  I am always under his law.  I know that every couple is different, but that is what it means to me.

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 10:59:04 AM   
littlesarbonn


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Status: offline 		For me, it's simple. 24/7 = 3.43 (rounded up to the 100th place).

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 12:34:59 PM   
starymists


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Status: offline 		For us, we are not yet living under the same roof, though we might as well be. And there is not yet a collar. But I know that he has complete control. If there is something I want to do vanilla, I request permission. I have rules that I follow, whether he is with me or not. I have behavior expectations whether he is around or not. I have a diet and health regimine that I follow whether he is here to ensure I do or not. I know that my behavior, my attitudes, the things I choose to do in his presence and in his absence reflect on him, as well as reflecting upon us.
 
The definition of 24/7 that we use is simple. He is in control, all the time. I do what is commanded, requested, ordered. I don't need him to be here to feel his control. Don't need him here to ensure that I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I don't refuse him anything that he wants ever. And his part of 24/7 is to ensure that I am safe, protected, nurtured within our relationship...all the time. He pushes me to improve myself...all the time. His Dominance is present all the time, even when he is not physically with me. It's a give and take that occurs 24 hours a day, 7 days a week :)

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 12:57:39 PM   
la90066


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Status: offline 		Eh... "24/7", "Live In", etc.  It's all semantics...
  1. You shack up.
  2. Someone is a Top and someone is a bottom.
  3. The power exchange exists to the degree the couple -- or the realities of life -- dictate it can.

Any other alleged definitions are purely self-serving -- there is no "standard". As with anything else, it depends on the couple. Period.
 

 

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RE: 24/7 - 3/30/2006 1:15:39 PM   
BitaTruble


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What exactly does 24/7 mean to you? 




It just means we are physically, mentally and emotionally available to one another 24 hours a day. We've lived together for several years.. so it would be hard 'not' to be 24/7. lol Himself wants to wake me up at 4:12 AM to get him a glass of water, that's what he does. Our situation is a bit on the unique side, because Himself works out of a home office so is actually home rather than at another site working during the day.  When he has to travel for business, he, generally, takes me with him. When he doesn't, I'm still available via cell and when he's at his hotel, he has his laptop, so I'm available that way as well. If we didn't live together.. well, that would be odd since we're married now, but I wouldn't consider us 24/7 in that event.

Celeste

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