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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:51:30 AM   
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natural slaves are not afraid of men, but ready to obey them.


Actually RUle, in my opinion and experience this is incorrect also. Natural slaves are not ready to obey, natural slaves are simply naturally susceptible to mastery. If no one every masters them, they don't run around obeying just because. Nor do natural slaves obey everyone. You may be confusing naturally submissive with natural slave.

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This would be a great new thread - i'd love to contribute. i agree with some of what you're saying but not all.

i'd start it but i'm not a good thread babysitter (perhaps i'm too afraid hee hee!).

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:51:41 AM   
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Vaguely ... I might as well delete my profile and begin anew. People have long memories...


Most of the folk on this end of the site aren't the ones you need to impress. However, you may want to divorce yourself from this particular thread with a new profile, but then again; it is someones forum posts that gives me cues on if they are someone I want to have a relationship with.



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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:52:12 AM   
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Icarys --

If a woman claims to be a slave and is AFRAID of MEN, then something is wrong. Afraid of getting her ass beat sure, afraid of something new sure, afraid of actual men -- umm no. That is not correct

If a woman is afraid of the MAN or MEN, then there is something wrong. Intimidated maybe, because of the power he possess over her maybe. But actually being AFRAID of him. Nope. I won't be a party to such advocation of slave.

I suspect my niece fears the ascension from a natural slave into the Goddess of Slaves that might occur when in the presence of a man. I have never spoken to her about my suspicions as to her nature.

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:53:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		UniqueRaven, its been discussed ad nauseum in many forums. Just look up natural or slave or sub lol you will find tons of threads about the topic.

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:53:26 AM   
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grins, well okay --- geesh are you always this high maintenance?

looks innocent.


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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:53:58 AM   
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Vaguely ... I might as well delete my profile and begin anew. People have long memories...


They have long memories, yes, but I'm pretty sure they will accept a change of heart.

If the choice is between leaving your profile as is or deleting it I would not hesitate to delete it. I wish you the best of luck with whatever you decide to do, but if you want to succeed you are going to need a whole different attitude.


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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:54:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rule

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Just out of curiosity, do you really enjoy Men? Or do you simply see them as a need to have a relationship?

She is afraid of men. Might be an indication that she is not a switch, but a natural slave.



Interesting theory....except that fear of men is not one of the traits the "natural" slaves I know, as well as me, tend to have, if anything it's the opposite.


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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:55:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		grins at Rule, seriously some advise from a woman who didn't know about slave before becoming one and then now know and watch women on sites such as this struggling to define slave --- don't discuss it with her. I am serious. A Man will come a long and force her to acknowledge it do to her natural reactions.

Let her discover it because if you try and discuss it with her, it may harm the "naturalness." because she may try and become what SHE thinks it is instead of letting no pun intended nature take its course.

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:55:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks people. I'll leave you to your regularly scheduled forum chats. Peace.

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:56:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		i haven't seen anything specifically about the "fear of men" discussed in relation to natural slaves. But thanks for the info, i'll check it out.

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:56:33 AM   
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natural slaves are not afraid of men, but ready to obey them.


Actually RUle, in my opinion and experience this is incorrect also. Natural slaves are not ready to obey, natural slaves are simply naturally susceptible to mastery. If no one every masters them, they don't run around obeying just because. Nor do natural slaves obey everyone. You may be confusing naturally submissive with natural slave.

angel

Some obey because they need to and some obey because they want to and yet others obey because they feel they have to.
There are people who go around trying to please many people..this has been discussed in length before.

I guess your definition and mine aren't one in the same. They aren't wild horses that need to be tamed nor are they destined to fit into your categories in order to exist. There are as many flavors of slave as their are differences in mindsets..I don't expect anyone but the one I'm with to fit my definition.

This isn't the place for this talk anyway...


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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:56:40 AM   
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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:57:13 AM   
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natural slaves are not afraid of men, but ready to obey them.

Actually RUle, in my opinion and experience this is incorrect also. Natural slaves are not ready to obey, natural slaves are simply naturally susceptible to mastery. If no one every masters them, they don't run around obeying just because. Nor do natural slaves obey everyone. You may be confusing naturally submissive with natural slave.

I stand corrected.

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:57:35 AM   
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Thanks people. I'll leave you to your regularly scheduled forum chats. Peace.


No, no... this forest fire is goood... toss a little more kindlin on.

*Grabs muh bag of marshmallows.*


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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 10:59:21 AM   
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I'm giving up on the search.

After 10 years of seeking and not finding, I have come to the conclusion that what I seek does not exist.

The fact that mere "friendship" is not possible with these people further solidifies my decision. I get so tired of mens' profiles saying 'I'm looking for friends' but still they can't be bothered to respond to my messages. I guess a woman has to be fuckable in order to be friendship material.

How sad.



I still don't understand why your not fuckable?

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 11:00:56 AM   
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shakes my head at Fukintrolll -- you my dear are what they call incorrigible if my spelling hasn't failed me.



*leme see if I can do this with a triple or even quad negative.*

Irregardless you can't snake yer way out of it... you already agreed to pick me up, you just failed to negotiate which airport.

*I think claiming 'failed' as one of the negatives would be a stretch but the triple negative was nailed.*


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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 11:02:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		hmmmm reads some of your profiles and wonders ... is THAT what profiles are for? over the top BS? *chuckles at the Troll*

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 11:04:10 AM   
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hmmmm reads some of your profiles and wonders ... is THAT what profiles are for? over the top BS? *chuckles at the Troll*


You do realize that assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups, right?


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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 11:04:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Icarys, you are correct its been discussed ad nauseum.

I will make this easy -- i am not here to convince you to change your opinion. Your opinion in my opinion is on many levels the misunderstanding MANY people have when it comes to identifying slave. Its why so many women run around believing they are slaves and then when they try and become so get so fucked up in the head about it because it doesn't "fit" so to speak. Pleasing and needing to obey are not concepts that identify slave. For SOME, it may be PART a very small part on why they THRIVE in the structure of slavery, but its not why they are slaves.

But as i said, i am not here to convince you from your opinion.

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RE: Giving up - 3/6/2010 11:05:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		OP, I'm taking a cue from the title of this thread and giving up. I can see that you would rather play the victim and snipe at those who are trying to help than make any real change in your attitude. So have at it....just please stop the complaints.

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