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pahunkboy -> Sound to a TV show? (3/6/2010 10:05:00 AM)

Ok- I want to banter here- rather then silly random.

Because - in the west- we go by visual but in old Soviet- audio was more important.

Next I wondered  why American shows have canned laughter.  To what extent does canned laughter make up happy?

Pondering further- there are tones that bring pleasure and tones that some claim induce sickness.

throw in icon type of TV shows.  They never go away- they cycle.   Maybe it is exclusively my age group.   lets open this up for discussion.

I wonder to what extent- that the Brady Bunch road on the SOUNDS.   that unique sound track.

Comments?



Lucylastic -> RE: Sound to a TV show? (3/6/2010 4:04:37 PM)

there is nothing more i hate on tv than canned laughter and the volume difference in the program and a commercial




thornhappy -> RE: Sound to a TV show? (3/6/2010 5:38:05 PM)

Me too on canned laughter.  Can't stand that or overdubbing (more a problem on movies).



Termyn8or -> RE: Sound to a TV show? (3/7/2010 4:29:57 AM)

FR

One of the last TV shows I could stomach was the Simpsons. I stopped watching as it depicted the failure of the "normal" nuclear family. However I was never a fan of canned laughter. I think it a crutch, and if I were to write a TV show I would never allow it. I will not be told when to laugh.

What did you expect Hunky ? You have a bunch of lame comedy writers recycling 100 year old jokes who have no confidence that they can really make people laugh, so they use canned laughter to goad the viewer into it, it is part of the bandwagon approach. Description available on request, but it is a time tested ploy of advertisers everywhere. Probably in marketing 102 somewhere.

Another psychological factor is that many people watch TV alone, and canned laughter makes them feel as if they are not. Very powerful medicine for the sheeple.

If you REALLY want to get into it I could prepare a nine hundred word essay on the subject (or more). But what they do to your mind as you watch the show is your reward for putting up with the commercials. That is another whole subject, but tightly related. Suffice it to say that everything you see om TV is carefully crafted to manipulate you. I don't fall for it because I know what it is. Unfortunately for them I am not the norm.

As a quick example, walk into some megamart of whatever sort and you will see things for sale marked ":as seen on TV". They consider that a positive thing and would not waste the ink if it didn't work. However when I see it I think "This stupid company just paid millions of dollars which ultimately comes out of my pocket if I buy the product". Yup, watch TV and you will know which things I do not buy. But then they do not pander to those like me, as I am not part of the lowest common denominator. (details on that aspect on request)

In short some call it the McDonald's approach. Why did they say "One million served" ? Because then people will figure it's good and try it. But there is alot more to it than that.

Off to rabblerouse. Need details just ask.

T



pahunkboy -> RE: Sound to a TV show? (3/7/2010 5:24:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
You have a bunch of lame comedy writers recycling 100 year old jokes who have no confidence that they can really make people laugh, so they use canned laughter to goad the viewer into it, it is part of the bandwagon approach.

Another psychological factor is that many people watch TV alone, and canned laughter makes them feel as if they are not. Very powerful medicine for the sheeple.

Suffice it to say that everything you see om TV is carefully crafted to manipulate you.



I was just saying that last night.  That much of the "talent" is rehashed. 

The board is going to hate me for this- but yes- I would love to read, analyze the 900 words.

...at times it seems radio is getting as silly as the TV.    One of the group homes I worked in- a resident banged his head so hard he needed to wear a helmet... and the trigger?    canned laughter!!  So people hear it even if they do not realize it is there.  I think the canned laughter helps the shows.  But in recent years- the shows are interrupted so much- that, I have other things to do.   Even to tivo thru real fast- became a hastle.   easier to just put on an old cassette tape.



Termyn8or -> RE: Sound to a TV show? (3/7/2010 6:45:53 AM)

Not quite the 900 words but :

fast
easy
cheap
popular
free

Those are your five marketing "fingers" . The media you use is akin to a piano, it's all in how you play it. It is the same thing, and some cool background music can make it come alive. Excitement is a tertiary thing, and is sold to those with much disposable income. Four wheel drives, sportscars and so forth. For the lower elements, those five fingers work just fine.

Now bear in mid they do allow, even purposely cause errors in the strategy. This leaves the sheeple thinking they are telling the truth while I wonder if the writer's Dad had to build a gymnasium to get the kid a sheepskin. But it is all part of the plan. When I was young I saw a bunch of felled trees, now I see a log cabin. Abe Lincoln would tell you there was a plan. This has become the career of careers and I might take a crack at it once my job goes down the tubes.

Now think of this - Archie Bunker without canned laughter. The NAACP, the ADL and who knows who else would be all over them like flies on shit. Sometimes the canned laughter is used to distract from the point actually made, leaving it in the subconcious. It is like a seed that grows. Their intent was not clear during the airing of that show originally, but it comes clear in time. Divide and conquer. It was more successful than they think.

This shit might sound totally off the wall, but I am willing to explain if asked. Rmember I have been studying this shit for over thirty years. I couldn't get it all into 900 words. But I do know what the fuck I am talking about.

T



pahunkboy -> RE: Sound to a TV show? (3/7/2010 7:15:32 AM)

OK-  well you could factor in NLP and predictive programming.

True Bunker with out canned laughter would be-  not a show.

I wonder the trigger words and prompts how they vary from generation to generation.  For instance our age has some memory of the cold war- where as young people - there whole life is now the War on Terror- with no cold war frame of reference.

Then consider how TV today is lit up in bold colors- neon- tacky almost.  If you seen the studio in person it is bright enough to get a headache.   Then often there is graphics- words- swoosh sounds-  but it now has reached a point of being ridiculous.   Yet- the younger people now will expect this.  ANything less wont keep their attention.



pahunkboy -> RE: Sound to a TV show? (3/7/2010 7:17:30 AM)

http://www.google.com/search?q=NLP



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