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DarlingSavage -> RE: Hero ? (3/8/2010 2:31:32 PM)

I'm pretty sure that Mr. Rogers was a child psychiatrist or psychologist with a lot of degrees. I think I saw him take off his sweater a few times and I don't recall seeing any tattoos there. He would always take his sweater off when leaving, put it on when coming in.

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, if you like thunderstorms and I kind of do. Won't you be my neighbor?



heartcream -> RE: Hero ? (3/8/2010 3:23:36 PM)

I dont get that pushing past fear mentality. It is not like the fear will never go away if it is aknowledged and felt. It rather becomes the next step with a real inner readiness to take on the thing that had triggered fear.

Courage is not that great of a trait in my books. Facing what is there with loving acceptance and making room for it, not stomping over it in the name of courage, bravery sorts of things.

I am tired to weeping by how we judge our fear as something to be avoided, stepped over, on, and not simply felt. If we do we get called a hero. To me it is not heroic or necessary to live a full and amazing life to push past fear in order to do something.



LafayetteLady -> RE: Hero ? (3/8/2010 5:32:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heartcream

I dont get that pushing past fear mentality. It is not like the fear will never go away if it is aknowledged and felt. It rather becomes the next step with a real inner readiness to take on the thing that had triggered fear.

Courage is not that great of a trait in my books. Facing what is there with loving acceptance and making room for it, not stomping over it in the name of courage, bravery sorts of things.

I am tired to weeping by how we judge our fear as something to be avoided, stepped over, on, and not simply felt. If we do we get called a hero. To me it is not heroic or necessary to live a full and amazing life to push past fear in order to do something.



It isn't that I disagree with all of what you are saying, but...

Go into a building that is on its way to being completely consumed by flames. Yep, you need to push past your fear to do that.



heartcream -> RE: Hero ? (3/8/2010 7:40:01 PM)

No you dont really. You can be vibrating the fear and moving at the same time. Of course you are going to try and save your life it is automatic. Sometimes when people think they want to be dead and then try to do something toward that they can often save themselves out of it because the survival instinct is so very strong.

No need to ever kick fear to the side.



Termyn8or -> RE: Hero ? (3/8/2010 8:25:24 PM)

You don't kick fear to the side kid, you jump over it.

T



thornhappy -> RE: Hero ? (3/8/2010 8:51:39 PM)

Nah, I'll argue about the plane.

It wasn't defective.
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Now we are arguing over Mr fucking Captain Kangaroo ?

Sweet world to leave.

T



Termyn8or -> RE: Hero ? (3/8/2010 9:06:48 PM)

Yeah ? Known compressor stalls that they knew about for years and did nothing ? Flock of geese was a code word, a goose was the word for one compressor stall, a flock of geese meant that the worst shit that could happen just did.

What they could have done about it ? Not much. I know business and I know they made a decision. They would burn that bridge when they came to it. I say that all the time. It is a simple matter of math, and those who understand gambling will see this very clearly. One planeful of people could die, or maybe not. If this happens, well what are the odds. What are our PR personell supposed to do with it ?

You just don't get it. These people are not like us, they are vastly different.

T



sravaka -> RE: Hero ? (3/9/2010 4:57:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR
Before posting it here I did some research to confirm the facts and as far as I can tell it is all true.



I love that so many of the bullshit email forwards now have something like this line in them. And the sort of people who forward these bullshit emails are still refusing to use google and/or snopes. I laugh, because to fully absorb JUST HOW FUCKING CREDULOUS one has to be to read, believe and forward this nonsense for FUCKING YEARS is to weep for the future of humanity.

Seriously. Fucking morons. YOU'RE HURTING AMERICA WITH YOUR WILLFUL REFUSAL TO ENGAGE IN CRITICAL THINKING.


yes. I am yelling.

sorry. kind of. not really. CUT IT OUT!!



Lucienne?  You're my hero.



paleness -> RE: Hero ? (3/9/2010 5:14:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

For me, a person is a hero if they have my back.  If they're willing to drop things to always be there for me.  To make a difference, when I need a difference made.  To make it matter when it matters to me.  Kind of like your savior.  I don't feel the word is being overused because I know its a word that means many things to many people.   I just know what it means to me.  [sm=smile.gif] 
I'd call that "friend".
It would be "hero" if he/she is somebody who does all the above without even knowing who I am, unexpectedly, out of nowhere.



Termyn8or -> RE: Hero ? (3/9/2010 9:59:47 AM)

You may have hit on something here. You always look out for friends, in whatever way and to whatever extent is possible, and doable without killing yourself of course.

But is the true definition of hero one who does it for total strangers ? Let broaden the scope a bit to get a better view.

You are a bone marrow donor. Now in all likelyhood you'll be donating to a family member because of tissue compatablility and such. From what I've heard it is extremely painful and there simply aren't drugs available to quell the pain that won't turn you into a total zombie.

What if you do it for a total stranger ? I mean this is not bullshit, you're probably going to miss at least six months of work, and will live in pain for a time. To do this for your brother is one thing, but some guy off the street ? Just how much hero do you have in you ?

I am not saying I would, nor do I claim to be some sort of tower of virtue, but that question remains. Would you do it ?

T



ryssa -> RE: Hero ? (3/9/2010 3:10:16 PM)

One of my closest friends is a Captain in the US army. He told me once that the word "hero" has a different meaning to soldiers than it does to civilians. Being called a hero from his peers is more like an insult. A hero to them, is someone who takes unecessary risks, or does something stupid putting his life, or the lives of his peers in danger.

To me the word hero has a completely different meaning. I will always view it as a word that holds a very special meaning for those who have shown great bravery or humanity toward others.



Termyn8or -> RE: Hero ? (3/10/2010 1:37:09 AM)

ry, I get that, but it is only because of the context. In that environment a hero might be very not well recieved, because many people would prefer to live. Not be a blazing target in a dark jungle sort of thing, y'know.

T



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