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AnimusRex -> RE: social welfare dependents (3/8/2010 8:41:28 PM)

Maybe somebody can do some research, and find out how much of the federal budget goes to "welfare".

Might have some bearing on the discussion of solutions, you think?




tazzygirl -> RE: social welfare dependents (3/8/2010 9:22:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Maybe somebody can do some research, and find out how much of the federal budget goes to "welfare".

Might have some bearing on the discussion of solutions, you think?


hi Master Animus

hope this is what you are looking for

tazzy


http://usgovernmentspending.com/#usgs302a

USgovernmentspending.com lists 2009 expenses budgeted for Welfare at 395.4 billion compared to 736.2 billion for pensions, 784.2 billion for health, 821.7 billion for defense (not including emergency requests for Iraq), and 91.7 for education (other data not listed) with a total of 3,997.2 billion of a total federal expense.

Year GDP-US Welfare-total
1995 7414.7 247.23
1996 7838.5 247.44
1997 8332.4 249.35
1998 8793.5 244.16
1999 9353.5 253.88
2000 9951.5 267.66
2001 10286.2 290.16
2002 10642.3 320.34
2003 11142.1 390.56
2004 11867.8 380.28
2005 12638.4 404.04
2006 13398.9 411.39
2007 14077.6 414.88
2008 14441.4 485.61
2009 14258.2 588.83
2010 14623.9 750.09
2011 15299 669.86
2012 16203.3 650.26
2013 17182.2 634.42
2014 18192.6 645.41
2015 19190.4 657.35







tazzygirl -> RE: social welfare dependents (3/8/2010 9:29:19 PM)


oops, this may help as well



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AnimusRex -> RE: social welfare dependents (3/8/2010 9:45:06 PM)

Tazzy-
No, this is incorrect; the first tipoff is that there is no federal program called "Welfare"... what we call that, is usually meant the old Aid to Families With Dependent Children program AFDC, administered by the Department of Agriculture.

The link you provided is innaccurate; it doesn't break down government departments by their true names, but lumps things together that should be separated.

If you go to that website, and drill down into the weeds, you will discover that the "Welfare" category is comprised of things like unemployment insurance, earned income tax credit, and child care tax credit. In other words, they are claiming that tax credits amount to welfare. If this were true, every business in America that used a passive-loss carry forward would be considered a welfare case.

The correct numbers are here;

We give about 7.7 Billion each year in food and nutrition assistance, or 0.2% of all spending, or about the cost of a few months in Iraq.

Just to put things in perspective.




AnimusRex -> RE: social welfare dependents (3/8/2010 9:48:54 PM)

[double post]




tazzygirl -> RE: social welfare dependents (3/8/2010 10:01:39 PM)

sorry Master [:)]

knew i shouldnt have posted after working 10 out of 11 shifts!




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