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Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 8:30:17 AM   
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Going on from another thread, what would one have to do to drop out of modern society, basically become untrackable and therefore unknown to authority ?

Does anyone know of any who have done so, or are by their status, off the radar ?

I was thinking about those classed as travellers, forms of vagrancy, are they really anonymous ?


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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 9:21:31 AM   
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I volunteer at the homeless shelter.  When I see someone wiped out- it is close to impossible to re-establish.   Trust me- we need our papers.


The key is owning your life- owning your time.  That measures in the quality.

No papers?      You can not do anything.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 9:27:13 AM   
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No papers?      You can not do anything.



I thought gold was the key to freedom. Everyone knows that an ingot is better than a passport. Especially if you're trying to fool the Zionists, and enter Israel.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 9:30:27 AM   
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It is not too late to repent.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 10:18:15 AM   
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Have you looked into plant seeds? Seeds are a wicked cool investment when you're planning Armageddon. Your neighbours will look upon you with envy as you grow carrots and squash in the irradiated soil. Seeds, I tell you!!!

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 10:31:31 AM   
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LOL, despite the obvious sarcasm currently, this is a valid point.

As someone who really is off the radar so to speak I could say a couple of things. First and foremost you either need a bunch of money or an untrackable source of income. This is harder to do than many realize. Yes it can be done, you either join a den of folks who could easily turn out to be criminals or you need to own your own business. You can't have anonymity when you sign a W2. You can't run awat from a social security check either. Anhonymity costs money. Even in business there are jobs you must turn down. Detail on request, but if you need a permit to work in a certain venue, usually you can't do it.

If you want this, you will never have a car or house in your name. I get around this by several different methods. And remember you MUST avoid conflicts with LEOs at all cost. You will need some help, trustable help to accomplish this. And forget having any type of insurance. But then if you do it right you are uncollectable anyway so who cares ?

See, I can't be insured and every time I get in my car I am on pins and needles. Until I sign this fucking house over to someone. But understand that I have to trust that person 100% and then some. After that I am pretty much free. And that wailin broad, sang in the sixties, I fergit her name, but she had it - Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

Really though you can have things, you just need to appear as though you have nothing. People are mainly tracked by their possesions. And if you truly want to be anonymous, forget about any healthcare or assistance from any agency, local, state or federal.

You can do this in this country, and probably almost anywhere. Mossad and CIA agents do it all the time. But it is not for everyone, especially for the remainder of one's life. CIA agents can come back and retire one day, you cannot.

Consider it very carefully, as I said it is not for everyone. You do get certain advantages, but for some the disadvantages weigh more. It is a personal decision, everyone's situation is different. And, if you do it in the US, using the method I know, you can only do it once, and forever. You reappear on the radar screen and it is all over, and you are again subject to,,,,,, ummm pretty much everything you had hoped to avoid.

Getting rid of the taxman is important, but you can actually still have a job. But you need to write a bill for your employer for every pay period and rescind your W2. Some employers will not comply, but most will after you put it to them the right way. It actually saves them money and if done right you get checks, but for the full amount of your rate.

Whether or not it's a good tradeoff varies from individual to individual.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 10:40:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Going on from another thread, what would one have to do to drop out of modern society, basically become untrackable and therefore unknown to authority ?

Does anyone know of any who have done so, or are by their status, off the radar ?

I was thinking about those classed as travellers, forms of vagrancy, are they really anonymous ?



You move to the Puna region of the big island in Hawaii.


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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 12:13:28 PM   
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Have you looked into plant seeds? Seeds are a wicked cool investment when you're planning Armageddon. Your neighbours will look upon you with envy as you grow carrots and squash in the irradiated soil. Seeds, I tell you!!!
-   Yes.   My neighbor is printing up my order form today.    And not Armageddon- an 80 year down cycle-and fiat currency final transition.   They have not built the 3rd temple yet.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 12:36:32 PM   
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Wired Magazine did an article where an author tried to do almost exactly this sort of thing.  It was a contest to find him; I think it took them like three or four weeks.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 1:26:24 PM   
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They have not built the 3rd temple yet.



Who hasn't built the third temple yet?

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 1:43:07 PM   
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They have not built the 3rd temple yet.



Who hasn't built the third temple yet?


Quit yer lolly gaggen and finish yer work you insolent wench!

P.S. She has a good start on the 3rd temple, she just hasn't finished it.
P.P.S. Damn it! I said the hot tub goes on the top floor!


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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 1:52:04 PM   
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Quit yer lolly gaggen and finish yer work you insolent wench!



I just came a little bit on my Bible *blush*.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 1:56:45 PM   
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Quit yer lolly gaggen and finish yer work you insolent wench!



I just came a little bit on my Bible *blush*.


Yes folks, I know... don't applaud, just throw money. *takes a bow*

For those of you who have never, or are still struggling to train a kitten, training them to cum on a bible is no easy feat.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 2:05:16 PM   
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I gushed all over "The Flood" pages.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 2:11:38 PM   
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I gushed all over "The Flood" pages.


As it should be.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 2:14:33 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Temple

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 2:18:12 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Temple


Yeah, have two in the back yard and if kittin will get off her lazy, whiplusting, painslutting, get your ass in the corner until you can do it right, ass we will have three.


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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 3:21:59 PM   
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Does anyone know of any who have done so, or are by their status, off the radar ?


Yeah Joe McIntyre but You've probably not heard of him however.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 5:49:40 PM   
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HR Lit___. He is still alive so I can't give out his full name. Yup, a millionaire who pays no taxes whatsoever. And they know right where he is.

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RE: Escape perhaps ? - 3/10/2010 5:55:24 PM   
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HR Lit___. He is still alive so I can't give out his full name. Yup, a millionaire who pays no taxes whatsoever. And they know right where he is.

T


Well if they know where he is, he isn't under the radar is he.  Dumbass!


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