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Jeffff -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 2:09:44 PM)

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Moonhead -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 2:12:22 PM)

You're Rod?




thompsonx -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 3:48:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

That Monsanto piece sounds like straight propaganda too.  Do you really think farmers are going to put up with GPS tracking of their livestock?  It's not even practical.


Monsanto  was able to patent "round up ready soy beans"  It is a type of seed that produces a plant that is imune to Round up (the most common herbacide in use and produced by Monsanto) .  Thus you can spray a field to kill the weeds while the soybeans are growing and not hurt them thus saving labor costs to pull weeds manually.
This special seed is quite a bit more expensive than regular seed.
There is a chain of custody for the seed so that only those who have paid for it can grow it.
If any of the special seed gets blown over into your field the courts have held that you owe Monsanto.  The end result is that if you are not rich enough to have a crew of lawyers on staff it could bankrupt anyone with less assets than one of the largest corporations in the world.




thornhappy -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 5:35:20 PM)

That's not the same as putting GPS trackers on every cow.  Or pig.  Or god help ya, chickens!




JohnWarren -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 5:50:22 PM)

Aluminum hat time




pahunkboy -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 6:04:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

Aluminum hat time


I am afraid- that I require an elaboration- of your most pompous post.

Are you subject to any regulations?  




pahunkboy -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 6:08:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy

That Monsanto piece sounds like straight propaganda too.  Do you really think farmers are going to put up with GPS tracking of their livestock?  It's not even practical.


Monsanto  was able to patent "round up ready soy beans"  It is a type of seed that produces a plant that is imune to Round up (the most common herbacide in use and produced by Monsanto) .  Thus you can spray a field to kill the weeds while the soybeans are growing and not hurt them thus saving labor costs to pull weeds manually.
This special seed is quite a bit more expensive than regular seed.
There is a chain of custody for the seed so that only those who have paid for it can grow it.
If any of the special seed gets blown over into your field the courts have held that you owe Monsanto.  The end result is that if you are not rich enough to have a crew of lawyers on staff it could bankrupt anyone with less assets than one of the largest corporations in the world.






organ failure

http://www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/press/090210.php

anti trust

http://news.google.com/news?q=Monsanto&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&ei=YqGZS4qiGIy0tgf46uywCQ&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CC0QsQQwAw






thornhappy -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 8:48:19 PM)

Actually, it says that there is statistically significant indicators of toxicity, not organ failure, and given the poor experimental design, more testing should be done.  And man, the statistics were  very poorly done, both in experimental design and in the statistical analysis.

Monsanto's web site safety section's got a lot of biased stuff in it (not surprising I guess!)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

organ failure

http://www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/press/090210.php

anti trust

http://news.google.com/news?q=Monsanto&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&ei=YqGZS4qiGIy0tgf46uywCQ&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CC0QsQQwAw




slvemike4u -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 8:59:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

This thread,like most of Pa's recent threads,belongs in "Polls and Random Stupidity".
Edited to add Brain is rapidly moving in the same direction.


Who asked you?

It's a public forum Hunk,I need not wait for an invitation to offer my thoughts,opinions or theories....it's the same right you enjoy....in your case your dementia leads to your abusing that right,but have at it ....it's free and inclusive, the Illuminati haven't gained control yet!!!!!




Termyn8or -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/11/2010 9:17:09 PM)

FR

Really this is probably going nowhere, but then I am reminded os those who get busted for selling raw milk. Some are treated like the just sold a million dollars worth of hard drugs. Ostensibly to protect public health, they have it now that while it is obviously not totally illegal to sell raw milk, because of course it is processed and sold on the shelf every day. However now it is apparently only legal to sell to certain buyers who will homgenize, pasteurize and stabilize it. Well I want the raw milk, but I am not asking to buy any here, because as a result it would actually violate TOS. Even though it is legal to sell, it is not legal to sell to me, or you. They can break you for selling it, because of seizure "laws", of the same type that enables them to take your yacht if they find a joint on board.

Don't pick on Hunky - all that much. He's just passing it on. What I am saying though, is while this whole thing might really go nowhere, the email tax idea did come from someone who worked for the government. The idea to collect rent on any privately held cash reserves came from someone in the government. Of course these ridiculous schemes met with an early demise and went nowhere, but I wouldn't put anything past them. And realize this, an EO by the President is law no matter how daringly it flies in the face of our rights, the Constitution or anything including whatever the UN might have to say. The oval office got that power pretty much permanently back in the 1930s. I've heard of court challenges to EOs, but imagine the resources it takes to do so. And then look at just who is pushing for this shit, and what there resources are.

As flippant as some of these proposals are, they could be enacted. I consider that a threat, and all the people out there who say that some of us are crazed conspiracy theorists will one day ignore the WRONG threat. Then we will live in AmeriKa.

T




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