If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (Full Version)

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jlf1961 -> If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 4:09:46 PM)

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More than a quarter of the nation’s bridges are structurally deficient or functionally obsolete. Leaky pipes lose an estimated seven billion gallons of clean drinking water every day. And aging sewage systems send billions of gallons of untreated waste water cascading into the nation’s waterways each year.

These are among the findings of a report to be released Wednesday by the American Society of Civil Engineers, which assigned an overall D grade to the nation’s infrastructure and estimated that it would take a $2.2 trillion investment from all levels of government over the next five years to bring it into a state of good repair.


Full story here.

Since the country's infrastructure is in such a state of disrepair, and the simple fact that to modernize and repair it would create a few million jobs, why the hell isn't the government looking to repair it and create jobs in the process?

Or does that just make too much sense?




popeye1250 -> RE: If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 5:52:51 PM)

Jf, it does make too much sense!
Obama would rather ignore the will of 300 million Americans and give "amnesty" to 20 million illegal aliens who aren't even supposed to be here to push pay rates down for the Unions he claims to love.
Man, the democrats are going to get *CLOBBERED* in the next two elections! T-R-A-I-N W-R-E-C-K.




thornhappy -> RE: If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 7:01:01 PM)

I guess it was too good to be true that you would leave illegal immigrants out of this.

This was the breakdown of the stimulus bill, looks like most went to tax cuts and health aid.




popeye1250 -> RE: If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 7:05:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

I guess it was too good to be true that you would leave illegal immigrants out of this.

This was the breakdown of the stimulus bill, looks like most went to tax cuts and health aid.




Thorn, I wish I could.[:D]




Musicmystery -> RE: If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 8:05:52 PM)

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Since the country's infrastructure is in such a state of disrepair, and the simple fact that to modernize and repair it would create a few million jobs, why the hell isn't the government looking to repair it and create jobs in the process?


Don't know what you did with your cut in Texas.

But here in New York, that's exactly where that money for shovel-ready projects went.





DedicatedDom40 -> RE: If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 8:10:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Man, the democrats are going to get *CLOBBERED* in the next two elections! T-R-A-I-N W-R-E-C-K.



Control of the country will fall to the Void party. Thats if, financially, we still have a country by then.




DedicatedDom40 -> RE: If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 8:27:15 PM)

Stimulus efforts of 2006 and 2008 did not create jobs like they should have.  Tax cuts no longer create jobs like they should either.

In 2000, courtesy of the legislative effort of Phil Gramm, we opened the casino on Wall Street. The casino soon became the preferred path to wealth creation. The casino path especially replaced the traditional path of owning a business.  Who wants to deal with construction of factories, hiring workers, and holding inventory when the casino path lacks such 'financial hardships'?

When we pass any stimulus or tax cuts, the financial windfall that normally should trickle down and create jobs does not trickle.  Those windfall funds ultimately migrate to the casino as well.  All those funds do is increase the size of the wagers being bet in the casino

We will not solve the jobs problem until we shut down the casino and end the shortcuts to wealth that were created in 2000.  We need to make owning a business that hires workers to make things the preferred path to wealth creation once again. 

Until we do that, we are just jerking off with China's money, fixing a few bridges with the leftover change.






Fellow -> RE: If the government wants to create jobs, why not work on the country's infrastructure? (3/12/2010 9:04:19 PM)

The infrastructure building would get the country deeper into the debt burden and the so called "multiplication effect" is in doubt because US productive (manufacturing) industry is small (less than 10% of the economy). Financial services (40%) have more office space they need already. Throwing money into economy without structural changes is not going to work. High tariffs on imports will come inevitably, there is no other way to stimulate the job growth. Alternatively, US will turn slowly into a police state with massive poverty (at the moment it seems the most likely scenario). There is no unemployment among upper layer of income (4% unemployment among upper 20% wage earners).  




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