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Hot Iron Branding - 3/14/2010 8:40:37 PM   
lychos999


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Status: offline 		I have some experience in scalpel scarification and aftercare and was wondering if someone would be able to compare it to hot iron branding both in pain and aftercare. Is there any safety/ hygiene problems that arise with hot iron branding? As well anyone that can tell me any experiences would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/14/2010 8:47:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm not sure, for someone to even have a remote chance of enjoying it must be a serious painslut

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/14/2010 9:32:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not as much at you would think, True a lot of people that do this type of thing are pain sluts but not all. Tattoos, scarifications and piercings among others are fairly permanent things with sort term pain relative to the lasting effect. Therefore it is possible for a total wimp to do one of the afore mentioned ideas.

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/15/2010 10:38:05 PM   
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i'm not sure, for someone to even have a remote chance of enjoying it must be a serious painslut


According to my s-type it actually does not hurt all that much (branding).  Just for the first moment that you put it on. 

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/16/2010 2:45:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		If hot strike branding is done properly then it doesn't hurt much at all.
The skin has three layers—the epidermis, dermis, and fat layer. A hot strike brand is created through red hot steel (around 800c) and creates a third-degree burn where the epidermis is lost.
A third-degree burn is much less painful than a 1st-2nd degree burn and most people that have a strike brand report back that it was not as painful as a tattoo. I personally found a tattoo far more painful. Its a pain-pleasure kind of thing. There is a tremendous rush when you get it.
The immediate area surrounding the strike will get a 1st degree burn and the lingering soreness (very little actually) is from the surrounding skin and not the brand itself.

All types of scarification tend to knock the immune system and so it is important that before receiving a brand you make sure your in top form. Its a good idea to take a good multi vitamin a few weeks before and for about six weeks after. The brand has opened your body to infection and so it is vital that you follow excellent hygiene and protect your new brand from pollutants.
You are more likely to get an infection from a second degree burn than a 3rd degree burn. There is no blisters or weeping.

A lot of scarification artists are using cauterization pens which create 2nd degree burns. This is obviously a painful method and it won't permanently scar.

I have also had skin removal scarification and I don't find this painful either.

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/16/2010 11:52:54 PM   
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According to my s-type it actually does not hurt all that much (branding).  Just for the first moment that you put it on. 


really? i thought it would be agonizing for like a long time. but then again i've never experienced it...well the closest thing i've had to that is my older brother used to burn me with the end of a cigarette when i was a little kid and i hated that

And as for what NightTigress said, tattoos really aren't that painful because i have one =P

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/17/2010 8:50:21 PM   
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According to my s-type it actually does not hurt all that much (branding).  Just for the first moment that you put it on. 


really? i thought it would be agonizing for like a long time. but then again i've never experienced it...well the closest thing i've had to that is my older brother used to burn me with the end of a cigarette when i was a little kid and i hated that

And as for what NightTigress said, tattoos really aren't that painful because i have one =P


Apparently not.  Shoot me an email and I will give you his contact info if you would like to know more. 

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/18/2010 1:33:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee

quote:

ORIGINAL: fadedshadow

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

According to my s-type it actually does not hurt all that much (branding).  Just for the first moment that you put it on. 


really? i thought it would be agonizing for like a long time. but then again i've never experienced it...well the closest thing i've had to that is my older brother used to burn me with the end of a cigarette when i was a little kid and i hated that

And as for what NightTigress said, tattoos really aren't that painful because i have one =P


Apparently not.  Shoot me an email and I will give you his contact info if you would like to know more. 


My understanding is that on the acctual burn site you burn through all the nerves so it is only the outside of the burn that has any feeling in it

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/18/2010 4:38:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		i'm not really interested in being branded myself, i don't want any permanent scars

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/21/2010 12:51:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you are talking about the type of brands they use on cows heating it up and pressing against the skin...first problem is you are not going to get a healthy crisp mark, and second of all our skin is not leather, not the same as a cow.
You are better off with "strike branding" like allthatjaz was talking about. In this instance you are basically heating up small sections of metal and pressing it against the skin creating the image, mark or design you are looking for.
Cauterizing pens are great!!! can get some great detail with the brand. But remember everyone heals differently.
The most horrifying part of the brand is the aftercare which basically involves scrubbing the skin very hard in the shower. In a sense you are re opening the wound so a scar will not form, It hurts like hell. And takes a very long time to heal. But thats the point of getting a long lasting beautiful brand.

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/21/2010 2:11:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi moonlightheart, there is a lot of contradiction in the healing of a brand. The problem with aggravating any scarification too early is that you have a high risk of blowing the scar (making the scar bigger than intended) and forming uneven keloid tissue.
After many years of trial and error, experimentation and research, my partner would always suggest you leave a brand well alone until the scab has hardened and loosened. Never make it bleed and never pick at it if its painful. Aggravating it after the initial healing process by the way you suggested is good but of the many brands S has done, he has noticed no marked difference in the eventual results of a scar that was left totally alone and a scar that has been gently teased during the healing process. In my opinion, some of his nicest work were the brands that were left to heal naturally.
Aggravating a brand area to prevent it from healing leaves the body open to infection for longer and risks a less well defined final scar. On balance I believe it is better to leave it alone.

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/21/2010 9:13:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		This RN cannot recommend creating wounds that could become infected. That said, I think it would be sexy to have my man's mark on me...wait, I can't promote that.

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/22/2010 12:45:25 AM   
lychos999


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Status: offline 		thank you all for your responses. sorry i don't fully understand the difference between hot iron and strike branding. Is it not possible to create a branding "iron" with fine enough lines to simulate "strike branding" while still only needing a single push of the iron?

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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/22/2010 1:33:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		You mean one big tool like a letter M?

Yes it is possible but here are the drawbacks, heating the tool uniformly is a major issue. The metal is very thin and so heating up a large area will cause distortion and you will have difficulty keeping a constant temperature. If for example you wanted to brand an S shape and that S is 2 inches long. You make the tool which is easy by bending up 3.142 inches of suitable steel to form your S shape brand. Now the problems start. How do you heat it evenly without distorting it? Unless you have hot coals your not going to be able to keep the whole thing red hot. When you get it to the skin you better hope that the area that your going to brand is as flat as the surface of the tool you have made, otherwise it is only going to contact the skin in two places. Not to mention the impracticalities of holding and pressing the brand evenly.
Anything like a circle or letter that has an enclosed section, such as B or A will need a gap. You can't enclose an area with a brand because you risk the entire enclosed area of skin dying (it needs blood supply)
If you make the brand very small, anything other than an L or i will merge and just end up looking like a blob.


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RE: Hot Iron Branding - 3/28/2010 8:34:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can answer a little from my own experience, my Master has written "PAIN SLUT" on my arse with a soldering iron.The first time he did it to me he put a nice pattern around my nipples. The area around the nipples healed faster than the one on the arse, naturally cos i sit on my arse! but the aftercare wasnt too much, went red and sore a little, i covered it over while it weeped during the healing process. i also wash with an anti-bacterial wash.
I can't really compare to scalpel scarification as my Master hasnt done that as yet.
I hope I have helped a little. 

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