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thompsonx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 5:17:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

No I was speaking of the ones that you take personally



Again....all of 'em. And at that I do mean entitlements and not earned benefits or constitutional intentions.

Before I posted I tried to consider what "entitlements" I take, and couldn't think of any.

But assuming I overlooked something it must not be all that critical, so get rid of it.

Though there are a few programs for poeple I find of value though I wouldn't share that info with you as it is obvious enough you'd use that info for your political advantage.

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So you want to give up your mortgage interest deduction?
Dependent deductions?




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Yes the very moment they repeal this illegally imposed monster they call "income tax". Until that time I can assure you that I earn the use of my deductions, all of them.


So entitlements are OK for Bull but not for anyone else because Bull does not like income tax...Stop being a fucking cry baby and answer the question.
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Military preference in civil service hiring?




First off I operate my own company.

To add to that, any benefit I derive from my ten plus years of service, was earned. I would assume that earning your keep wouldn't be all that foreign a concept to a Marine. I do trust that I am correct in assuming you were a Marine.


For a man of your size you dance quite well...so that is a no on your giving up  another one of your "entitlements"


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It is relevant to the degree you wish to give up your entitlements or just that you want others to give up theirs?



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I prefer we all earn our own way and that the right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness shall not be compromised.

And by creating all brands of entitlements that facilitate general appathy and that ever growing sense of having the right to unearned entitlement that compromises the liberties and pursuit of happiness for all Americans that are, as they should be, standing on thier own merit.


Just how would you redress any grevences that might occure to anyone who had been deprived of these benifits ?






thompsonx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 5:19:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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If you were to actually look it up you would find that SS is a voluntary insurance program.




Uhhh, no, it isnt.


According to both the SS laws and the SCOTUS you are wrong again as usual




xBullx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 6:08:51 PM)


There's a really good chance you are already employed by the double talking, delusional spin weavers of Washington. <---intended humor

It appears that you aren't out to advance your understanding but rather your position. So I'll keep that in mind from now on.

Your questions were answered so you stop acting the fool. I've responded as I will to each of your off topic and at times ridiculous statements or questions, just because you don't like the answer by no means reduces its validity.

Just get this in my world if you earn it, its not an entitlement, its rightfully yours, hence a right.
And I don't have to redress any grevences, much the same as you dismiss my right to not be in favor of entitlements, I choose to dismiss your position.

So while you're attempting to confuse the issue over earned and unearned characteristics, you know good and well what I was and am talking about. If not I'm not, tough shit. It's obvious discussion with you is pointless, as seems to be your M.O. you attempt to spin it whatever way entertains you or promotes your agenda.

By the way when your entitlement laiden world comes crashing down, I won't care.

Now be a good boy and get back on topic.




thompsonx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 7:03:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xBullx


There's a really good chance you are already employed by the double talking, delusional spin weavers of Washington. <---intended humor

Wrong...I have not had a job since 1967...and in the off chance I might ever be tempted to actually get a job there will be 40 feet of snow in Furnace Creek  before I would ever work for that group of assholes.

It appears that you aren't out to advance your understanding but rather your position. So I'll keep that in mind from now on.
That opinion is derived from some source outside my posts

Your questions were answered so you stop acting the fool.

Yes they were answered,
Bull believes in "entitlements" for Bull but no one else.



I've responded as I will to each of your off topic and at times ridiculous statements or questions, just because you don't like the answer by no means reduces its validity.

When I point out your talent on the dance floor it clearly deliniates your inability to answer simple questions candidly

Just get this in my world if you earn it, its not an entitlement, its rightfully yours, hence a right.

So it would appear that you percieve a difference in the meaning of the word "earm". 
If Bull earns it then it is his entitlement and that is good.
If someone who is not Bull earns it then it is not good and needs to be done away with.



And I don't have to redress any grevences,

You don't..well ain't you special. 
You can just walk around and butt fuck anyone and you don't have to redress any grievences?...I would not encourage you to try that in my back yard son it might proove to be a disapointment.
In my world everyone is responsible for their actions.


much the same as you dismiss my right to not be in favor of entitlements, I choose to dismiss your position.

On the contrary I have not dismissed your right to believe anything you choose.  I have just pointed out the inconsistancy in your stated position.  You want entitlements for Bull but do not want them for others.

So while you're attempting to confuse the issue over earned and unearned characteristics, you know good and well what I was and am talking about.

I was never all that good at mind reading.
Your statements though are quite clear. 
Entitlements for Bull = good.
Entitlements for those who are not Bull = not good.



If not I'm not, tough shit. It's obvious discussion with you is pointless,

Discussion with me is not all that difficult once you learn that posturing and  chest thumping  by pictures of an overweight middle age man do not sway me.
Discuss facts and concepts with me and we will make progress...but ...please leave your martial posturing for someone who may be impressed with that sort of thing.



as seems to be your M.O. you attempt to spin it whatever way entertains you or promotes your agenda.
My agenda is truth what is yours?
By the way when your entitlement laiden world comes crashing down, I won't care.

And you know I live in an entitlement laden world by what method?

Now be a good boy and get back on topic.
Now that you have answered the questions which you led us off topic with I will be glad to sonny




MrRodgers -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 7:08:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Uhmmmmm, no......the fuel taxes and road use taxes pay for the roads so there is no entitlement there... That would be an earned benefit.


OK, so everyone who has ever worked has paid into Social Security, and that is considered an entitltement and not an earned benefit?



Personally I'd call it an earned benefit to those that have payed in. But it's amazing how many that draw that didn't pay or payed very little. I prefer to view it as a poorly conceived and terribly managed Big Government Vote and Enfluence Purchasing Program.

Again though......relevance?

Actually soc. sec. has been a fiscal darling, the beneficaries of which are the citizenry that's been forced to 'lend' the treasury back $2.5 trillion of it since the 'great reform' of 1983.

This was done without hesitation of either side and so these Wash., political captains of financial hedonism could fund a very expensive, wealthy, tax cut and corporate 'Purchasing Program.'

The are no problems with either soc. sec. or Medicare for that matter, that wasn't caused by our congress. If not for those whores they both would be flush with plenty of money. Instead Medicare is paid at retail and Soc. sec. sits with a pile of govt. paper instead.




It's amazing that we keep re-electing the same brand of bumbling fools or quite possibly deviously brilliant crooks, and in fact often enough the very same villians/politicians to drain the most plentiful coffers the world has most likely ever known.

It seems to me that if the Jewish, Irish or Italian Mobs had ever been able to write their own laws they'd have looked much like todays Federal Government.

Pretty good but while I am chuckling, I am thinking the Jewish too spendthrift, the Irish drunk and no less corrupt and if more efficient...along the lines of the trains never being late under Mussolini's Italy.




xBullx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 7:36:09 PM)

thompsonx,

You certainly need to sober up, get a pair of reading glasses and get off the merry-go-round.

Oh and stop obsessing over my pics.... Those personal attacks intended to frustrate or annoy me just expose you for what you are.




Aylee -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 7:59:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Oh and stop obsessing over my pics....


But you are so cute when you're angry! 




thompsonx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 8:01:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Oh and stop obsessing over my pics....


But you are so cute when you're angry! 


Have I mentioned before that you have an uncanny grasp of the obvious[;)]




thompsonx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 8:05:27 PM)

Oh and stop obsessing over my pics.... Those personal attacks intended to frustrate or annoy me just expose you for what you are.

Which is:  Observant, concise and truthful.




Aylee -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 8:13:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Oh and stop obsessing over my pics....


But you are so cute when you're angry! 


Have I mentioned before that you have an uncanny grasp of the obvious[;)]


Hurmph!  And here I thought that I was channeling the Warner Brothers.  (Yakko and Whacko)




Aneirin -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 8:44:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

"more complicated than he thinks" might be the understatment of the century. He is totally clueless about the history of the region. He obviously doesnt know that "Palestinian's" have never been indigenous settlers of the territory encompassed by Israel.


I understand the Palestinians have been in Palestine before it became Israel since at least the tenth century, roughly a thousand years of settlement. So as you are the font of all wisdom where did those that call themselves Palestinians come from, could they have not already been there, but converted to Islam with the Seljuk invasions ? To understand non Moslem people in Moslem countries held a lower status to Moslems, but as Dhimmi, people of the book, conversion to Islam was easy and many could/would have took it to ensure a better life.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 11:29:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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If you were to actually look it up you would find that SS is a voluntary insurance program.




Uhhh, no, it isnt.


According to both the SS laws and the SCOTUS you are wrong again as usual


no, Im not, moron.

"Myth 1: President Roosevelt promised that participation in the program would be completely voluntary

Persons working in employment covered by Social Security are subject to the FICA payroll tax. Like all taxes, this has never been voluntary. From the first days of the program to the present, anyone working on a job covered by Social Security has been obligated to pay their payroll taxes.

In the early years of the program, however, only about half the jobs in the economy were covered by Social Security. Thus one could work in non-covered employment and not have to pay FICA taxes (and of course, one would not be eligible to collect a future Social Security benefit). In that indirect sense, participation in Social Security was voluntary. However, if a job was covered, or became covered by subsequent law, then if a person worked at that job, participation in Social Security was mandatory.

There have only been a handful of exceptions to this rule, generally involving persons working for state/local governments. Under certain conditions, employees of state/local governments have been able to voluntarily choose to have their employment covered or not covered. "





willbeurdaddy -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 11:35:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

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"more complicated than he thinks" might be the understatment of the century. He is totally clueless about the history of the region. He obviously doesnt know that "Palestinian's" have never been indigenous settlers of the territory encompassed by Israel.


I understand the Palestinians have been in Palestine before it became Israel since at least the tenth century, roughly a thousand years of settlement. So as you are the font of all wisdom where did those that call themselves Palestinians come from, could they have not already been there, but converted to Islam with the Seljuk invasions ? To understand non Moslem people in Moslem countries held a lower status to Moslems, but as Dhimmi, people of the book, conversion to Islam was easy and many could/would have took it to ensure a better life.



Why don't you ask the PLO?

"Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:


The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."




belladevine -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/15/2010 11:45:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Netanyahu faces 'moment of truth' after US slams Israel 'insult'

I'm a supporter of the State of Israel, and willing to cut them a lot of slack as well, but here, I'm with the Obama Administration. 

This announcement, coming when it did...  Insult is a good word.






Most Americans are supporters of Israel, even if they dont know it.

http://uncle-semite.com/misraelbe/




slvemike4u -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/16/2010 2:09:59 AM)

Most circumcised American males prefer boxers to briefs,even if their women don't know it.
Sorry currently the link supporting this position is down.




eyesopened -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/16/2010 4:55:00 AM)

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sorry..wrong thread




Sanity -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/16/2010 6:31:57 AM)


Also from your blatantly  antisemitic website:

Gentile Mutilation Mensch Health Uncle Semite Hollow Cost Fourth July Wej Issue Misraelbe Newsbeak Mein Kamp Shitler's List Sticker Schlock



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ORIGINAL: belladevine


Most Americans are supporters of Israel, even if they dont know it.

http://uncle-semite.com/misraelbe/




belladevine -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/16/2010 7:36:41 AM)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M




crazyml -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/16/2010 8:05:20 AM)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M


Perhaps the most intelligent contribution to the thread so far!




thompsonx -> RE: US slams Israel 'insult' (3/16/2010 8:55:39 AM)

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According to both the SS laws and the SCOTUS you are wrong again as usual


no, Im not, moron.

Then look up the fucking law and the SCOTUS decission about the jeasus phreque cop in Ventura who claimed that the SS number was the mark of the devil and took the case all the way to the supreme court of the U.S. where the court found that SS was voluntary and anyone could opt out of the SS program if they so chose.
If you would prefer to be a moron then that would be something beyond my level of responsibility





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