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jlf1961 -> Is the next Unabomber lone wolf terrorist among us? (3/15/2010 8:31:09 PM)

Unabomber Manifesto

Those of you who wish to can read the entire essay.

However, after reading the document (I watched a NatGeo special on the Unabomber) and then comparing it to some of the rants that I have read on these boards, I cant help but wonder if the next lone wolf lunatic is among us.

For example:
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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering—even in "advanced" countries.


That is just the first part of the manifesto, and while reading that, I could not help but think of a few board posters who seem to have the same grasp of reality.
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Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in mind mainly socialists, collectivists, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an ideology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types. Thus, what we mean by "leftism" will emerge more clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology. (Also, see paragraphs 227-230.)

Even so, our conception of leftism will remain a good deal less clear than we would wish, but there doesn't seem to be any remedy for this. All we are trying to do is indicate in a rough and approximate way the two psychological tendencies that we believe are the main driving force of modern leftism. We by no means claim to be telling the whole truth about leftist psychology. Also, our discussion is meant to apply to modern leftism only. We leave open the question of the extent to which our discussion could be applied to the leftists of the 19th and early 20th century.

The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization." Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: Is the next Unabomber lone wolf terrorist among us? (3/15/2010 9:36:13 PM)

The problem with lunatics is not that ALL the observations they hold to be true are false , the problem is that they see the solution as coming about via violence. Most documents have some truth in them at some point even if the document as a whole promotes a false conclusion.

As in technology has been terrible for many third world countries, if you have a netflix account I can give you a link to the documentary showing the 200 foot high hills of dumped circuit boards with kids crawling about on it barefoot, in order to retrieve the good ones for recycling. Or the oil tankers being abandoned, with crude still in their hulls, to be dissasembled by teenagers, who, work all day covered in oil. OR can go on and on.

Technology, has a a lot of good aspects, almost solely for the benefit of richer nations, we just use the poor nations as dumping grounds for all those old CRT monitors.

Hey, but that would make me a domestic terrorist now I suppose. LOL....

edited to show the difference in solutions, even if believe the same set of partial observations are true.

See the unabomber thought the only way to fix the situation was via stopping technological progress or rolling it back, to where I think the solution to the problem would be solved to a greater degree by instituting a law that says if you consume it as a nation you dispose of it  in your own borders.

The problem is third world nations are so corrupt and broke they don't care if dumping tons of circuit boards will destroy the soil, cause birth defects, and cancer. So, economically it is cheaper to support corrupt leaders in impoverished nations, than take responsiblity for our consumption.








Termyn8or -> RE: Is the next Unabomber lone wolf terrorist among us? (3/15/2010 9:50:31 PM)

You rang ?

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jlf1961 -> RE: Is the next Unabomber lone wolf terrorist among us? (3/15/2010 10:38:06 PM)

Actually, I was talking about the tone of the manifesto, as compared to a few posters on these boards. While the "Whatever appears wrong" may be different, the solution of doing away with whatever it is, or whoever it is seems to be a universal idea.

Of course, I am referring to those posters who seem to have a major problem with certain topics, bordering on complete paranoia.




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