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Old medical records - 3/17/2010 10:57:44 PM   
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I have a question. Now I know medical records are supposedly private, but all I need is dates that someone was in the hospital. Part of the problem is that we are talking 10 - 15 years ago.

The first one almost killed him by taking the wrong treatment strategy, but the second one saved him. The first was a public hospital, and even sending the bill, he would never give them money. The second, he found that he still had good health insurance because of his last job at the time and they had to do surgery and all that. After that he recovered, but this was totally forgotten about.

But what I am looking for is simple proof that he was in those hospitals and for what dates. One is out of business, the first is not. The second one got paid, the first did not. I wouldn't pay someone to take my life so lightly. They tried to treat very bad pneumonia and pleresy(sp) with drugs alone on an outpatient basis. There was almost a lawsuit. At any rate, Something got forgotten about and he has a failure to appear in a court during that time.

The difference is between a $4,000 bond and about a $35 fine.

Any ideas ?

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RE: Old medical records - 3/17/2010 11:00:11 PM   
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credit reporting agency might have a record?

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RE: Old medical records - 3/17/2010 11:12:28 PM   
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The second the insurance company would have the dates from the filing. The first, call the hospital. If the person you are referring too is unable to talk on the phone to these people, you will need a health care power of attorney to get that information.

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RE: Old medical records - 3/18/2010 4:12:30 AM   
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Not supposed to be private but that privacy is protected by law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_Act
The Privacy Rule took effect on April 14, 2003, with a one-year extension for certain "small plans". The HIPAA Privacy Rule regulates the use and disclosure of certain information held by "covered entities" (generally, health care clearinghouses, employer sponsored health plans, health insurers, and medical service providers that engage in certain transactions.)  It establishes regulations for the use and disclosure of Protected Health Information (PHI). PHI is any information held by a covered entity which concerns health status, provision of health care, or payment for health care that can be linked to an individual.  This is interpreted rather broadly and includes any part of an individual's medical record or payment history.
Covered entities must disclose PHI to the individual within 30 days upon request. They also must disclose PHI when required to do so by law, such as reporting suspected child abuse to state child welfare agencies.
A covered entity may disclose PHI to facilitate treatment, payment, or health care operations, or if the covered entity has obtained authorization from the individual.   However, when a covered entity discloses any PHI, it must make a reasonable effort to disclose only the minimum necessary information required to achieve its purpose.
 
The Privacy Rule gives individuals the right to request that a covered entity correct any inaccurate PHI.  It also requires covered entities to take reasonable steps to ensure the confidentiality of communications with individuals.   For example, an individual can ask to be called at his or her work number, instead of home or cell phone number.
The Privacy Rule requires covered entities to notify individuals of uses of their PHI. Covered entities must also keep track of disclosures of PHI and document privacy policies and procedures.  They must appoint a Privacy Official and a contact person responsible for receiving complaints and train all members of their workforce in procedures regarding PHI.

The penalties for disclosing information just cuz you asked...
 
Criminal Penalties
In June 2005, the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) clarified who can be held criminally liable under HIPAA. Covered entities and specified individuals, as explained below, whom "knowingly" obtain or disclose individually identifiable health information in violation of the Administrative Simplification Regulations face a fine of up to $50,000, as well as imprisonment up to one year. Offenses committed under false pretenses allow penalties to be increased to a $100,000 fine, with up to five years in prison. Finally, offenses committed with the intent to sell, transfer, or use individually identifiable health information for commercial advantage, personal gain or malicious harm permit fines of $250,000, and imprisonment for up to ten years.
 
Tazzy is right.  You could get that information if you have that person's POA or get a subpeona.  Healthcare workers, even in the billing and records departments would lose their jobs in a heartbeat if they just gave you information, even if the patient did not complain or report.


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RE: Old medical records - 3/18/2010 6:09:21 AM   
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If its a legal case then here certainly you could apply to the court for the records to be provided if theyre important to the case.

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RE: Old medical records - 3/18/2010 6:18:54 AM   
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In the US, they are not allowed to release medical information to anyone without a release/authorization from the patient. Even telling a stranger that the person WAS in the hospital on certain dates is a violation without the release.

If the patient wants the information he can obtain same. Or all he needs to do is sign an authorization to release the records to you or a basic power of attorney would do the same. You can get an authorization form they need from the hospital in most cases. Have him sign the authorization take it to the hospital medical records department or medical bills department and request the records. Also, you may not need the records but get the bills from the hospital, but again you will need an authorization.

If he has an attorney for this case, they can also subpoena the records.

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RE: Old medical records - 3/18/2010 12:01:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I have a question. Now I know medical records are supposedly private, but all I need is dates that someone was in the hospital. Part of the problem is that we are talking 10 - 15 years ago.



In most states, medical records of adults are destroyed after 7 years.  They may or may not have a financial history still in their computer system. 

The insurance company may be able to provide the dates they were billed, or whoever took over the records of the hospital when they went out of business.  The business part of a hospital that closes doesn't just go away, someone has to take it over.

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