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Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 11:09:50 AM   
RexLongBeach


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Status: offline 		The last time I flew on an airplane, I was miserable. I'm over 6 feet tall, I have broad shoulders, and I'm not especially slender.

There I was, tucked into a window seat on a full flight, and not in the exit row.

My right shoulder was up hard against the wall, kept there to minimize my invasion of the space of the woman next to me in the middle row. My feet were up against the seat in front of me; my legs and thighs pressed together by the armrests. The seats in front of me and the passengers to my left blocked my view of all but the ceiling of the airplane. Moving my arms? Ummm.... no. My hands, a little. Maybe.

So: I was basically held immobile, with a bit of sensory deprivation going on.

Naturally, I hated it.

But then (since hey, it was a transcontinental flight), I started thinking. I was in bondage, but kept safe by an army of security people, regulations, pilots and staff, all of whom were doing their thing.

Adding it up: immobility, sensory deprivation, and my ultimate safety the top concern of the people in control.

I still couldn't get into it, but I'm Dominant.

Could you have put your submission to work and enjoyed the flight?
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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 11:16:35 AM   
Heulwen


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Status: offline 		*laugh* Unfortunately, no. Good observation and amusing question, though!


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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 11:24:11 AM   
UniqueRaven


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Status: offline 		i do have submissive needs when i fly, which i do a lot. Not that i have a sense of being "in bondage" per se, more that i feel overwhelmed by all the people around me. One reason i need a window seat, and i need my seat assignment ahead of time - i want to know i'll be able to look out the window and imagine that i am outside the airplane, somehow.

That said i seem to be one of those people that everyone likes to talk to and i often do wind up talking with the person sitting next to me - and i've met some amazing people on airplanes. i just need to be in my "safe space" to do so.

Bondage though, has never entered my mind - interesting perspective though.

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 11:55:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		My problem with flying is that I don't like my privacy being invaded.  It starts with the security scan and having to take my shoes off and fishing my laptop out while trying to guard against it being stolen by a stranger to people who seem to think that part of my seat on the plane is also theirs.  I used to be much heavier, and there is a gleeful little part of me when I can see seat on both sides of my thighs now instead of pushing the arm rests up with them.  However, it seems that there are few people who fit comfortable into their seat and many have a tendency to lean over into "my" space.  I often end up sitting with my arms crossed to keep from inadvertently touching or being touched by my seat neighbor.

I have sometimes compared it to a bondage situation.  I think that the biggest difference is that one is done ultimately for enjoyment while the other is imposed upon you whether you wish it or not.  There may be certain play situations where a stranger is allowed to touch you but you know you have your Master's watchful eye.  It is very different when you are out on your own and someone is eying you appreciatively or simply touching you through bumbling.  (Girls - take my advice and DON'T wear an underwire bra through the magnetometer unless you like being felt up in public!)


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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 1:18:52 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Nope. In real life when limbs start going numb he changes the tie so I can have circulation again. That doesn't happen in an airplane.

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 4:57:28 PM   
DWCskitten


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Funny this thread should show up right now. Next month i'm going on a cross country trip, and i'm pretty plus-sized AND i have long legs (i'm 6'1"), and maybe i will try, i say try, to keep that in mind when i feel like a sardine in a can. lol

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 5:53:48 PM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		my problem is when someone invades my space with their body. I flew half way across the country with someone's thigh on me b/c they were too big for their seat so they took up half of mine, having gotten there before me and lifted the arm rest. It was SO uncomfortable and unfair.  That and the screaming brats.  I love to travel, but man, flying sure can suck!

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 6:21:47 PM   
sleepingbeauty2


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Status: offline 		absolutely not. in fact when i fly it's like I don't like that I have no control and can't get off the plane when I want!

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 9:36:16 PM   
DWCskitten


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quote:

ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium

my problem is when someone invades my space with their body. I flew half way across the country with someone's thigh on me b/c they were too big for their seat so they took up half of mine, having gotten there before me and lifted the arm rest. It was SO uncomfortable and unfair.  That and the screaming brats.  I love to travel, but man, flying sure can suck!

Yes, i can totally understand why it would be uncomfortable sitting next to a plus-sized person and that's why, like it or not, i will pay for two seats next to each other, even though i will definitely not take up two entire seats. i don't want anyone else to feel uncomfortable because of me or resent me.

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 9:42:39 PM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		I wish more people had your consideration DWC!!!

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/18/2010 9:50:31 PM   
DWCskitten


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Thanks, SweetElysium. i do try to be considerate. i hope your future flights will be better. Happy skies.

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/20/2010 4:05:00 AM   
rockspider


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Status: offline 		I love the power of flying. Specially the take of run. 300 ton of aluminium accelerating faster than a motorbike is a rush, but an intercontinential fligth must be about the most boring experience around. Sitting like sardines in a can for 10 hours straigth is torture and your arse starting to be seat formed. Then all the crap in the airports in our days. But what the heck, it is necessary for the big experience of travelling. So I will grump on.

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/20/2010 4:53:51 AM   
eyesopened


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Status: offline 		Strictly my view on it.

What I have learned about myself through submission and surrender is that when I am feeling badly it is a cue that I need to change my focus. 

I have no control over the airplane, how it is operated or how it was maintained.  Therefore flying doesn't scare me.  I have no control over who sits next to me.  To be miserable because someone has invaded my 'personal space' is me making myself miserable by focusing on it.  In times like that I have shifted my focus to the reason why I am flying in the first place. 

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/20/2010 2:12:47 PM   
sweetriver


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Status: offline 		i don't find flying to be all that comfy nor all that bad. But i am on the small side, the seats are plenty big enough and plenty of room for my feet. It is not being able to get up and walk around that bugs me (ADHD is not a plus on an airplane!)

For the taller folks, i'd recommend asking for a seat by the emergency exit. They like those seats to be used by those who can help in case of an emergency so those with small kids, the elderly and anyone who looks infirm are usually not put there. A tall, strong looking guy would be able to stretch his legs out a bit and would obviously be a help if needed.

riverr

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/22/2010 5:01:16 AM   
ranja


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It depends on my mood, but yes, i can use my imagination to escape uncomfortable situations
i do it on long journeys or in waiting rooms when i get bored
It is more like meditation and not always bdsm related but sometimes it is and some of  the people around me are involved in my fantasies.

If limbs go numb and cramp sets in it can be very difficult to get into it,
also sometimes i  need to push myself out of it 'cos it feels like i'm crazy

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RE: Bondage in the Air - 3/22/2010 9:17:36 AM   
PrimalConsonance


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RexLongBeach

The last time I flew on an airplane, I was miserable. I'm over 6 feet tall, I have broad shoulders, and I'm not especially slender.

There I was, tucked into a window seat on a full flight, and not in the exit row.

My right shoulder was up hard against the wall, kept there to minimize my invasion of the space of the woman next to me in the middle row. My feet were up against the seat in front of me; my legs and thighs pressed together by the armrests. The seats in front of me and the passengers to my left blocked my view of all but the ceiling of the airplane. Moving my arms? Ummm.... no. My hands, a little. Maybe.

So: I was basically held immobile, with a bit of sensory deprivation going on.

Naturally, I hated it.

But then (since hey, it was a transcontinental flight), I started thinking. I was in bondage, but kept safe by an army of security people, regulations, pilots and staff, all of whom were doing their thing.

Adding it up: immobility, sensory deprivation, and my ultimate safety the top concern of the people in control.

I still couldn't get into it, but I'm Dominant.

Could you have put your submission to work and enjoyed the flight?


I've been locked into a seat on a flight before, but not cross-country.  When I was stuck there (6'2" and 350lbs), I was also doing some thinking...but not about BDSM.  I had some thoughts about torture however.  I wanted to have a few moments with the little customer service creature that knew more about the flight, the plane, and the seating than I did (that was about a half-hour into the flight).  I also thought about physics...I was trying to calm myself to become aware of other things than my painful parts.  I picked a spot I could accept and then decided (made a deal) with that part to keep in that spot with the least amount of thought or muscle movement trying to fake that muscle that it was at rest.  I'd deal with the reality of it all later.  Some of it worked and some of it was futile.  But no, none of my BDSM experience helped me (except to get more peanuts and soda...yes I know they will give it if you ask...let's not burst that little bubble too). 


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