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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 8:48:49 AM

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oh lol doh, no wonder I never heard of him, thanks. thought maybe he was a wressler.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 8:51:36 AM

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Thank you for being kind.

I was 54 years old when I finally met a man I was willing to follow, who was able to impose His will on me. I don't have a moment's regret for any of my decisions, past or present.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 8:52:02 AM

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Well Musicmystery, I hear she isn't living with Jesse now and I think after a bit of healing time, she just might be available!

I'll even allow her to continue her acting career. It's good to keep a girl active.

Hehehe... you generous male beastie type! Gotta love it! I just wonder what you will look like on the red carpet! Can I get an autograph?

Sure, anytime...come on out to the slave ranch sometime.

Jeff said something about June not feeling well, so there's room on the guest list.

Sandra sends her regards.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:18:04 AM

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hmmmm, with you............my nature would be...............................extremely naughty.

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You all do realize that the male animal of the human species is designed to copu-thefuckin'-late his ass off, right?

Men don't cheat, they live. It's imposing these female concepts, that are very real and very valid for them onto men that fucks the whole thing up.

We have the pack mentality folks, while women internally seek one solid, stong and capable male to prove dominant over them, men are designed to gather a pack around the home fire.

Or "how to use Nature as a way to excuse naughty behaviour" .

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:27:01 AM

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If this was 10,000 years ago I'd be inclined to agree with the whole furthering of the species/multiple partners arguement but that point is kind of made invalid by the fact that we've evolved somewhat as a species. Murder is also natural as seen in pretty much every group or species on the planet but collectively as humans we've agreed that its probably not the best idea going around smiting those weaker than you. We do a lot of things that go against our natural, more base instincts that's what separates us from the animals.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:32:46 AM

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hat point is kind of made invalid by the fact that we've evolved somewhat as a species.

We do a lot of things that go against our natural, more base instincts that's what separates us from the animals.

Just to be clear, the "evolution" you're talking about is cultural, not natural.

And I'd not be so quick to label natural instincts as "base" so neatly.

For good or ill, cultural constructs are inventions, not truths. Useful, yes, but when confused as truths, they become blinders.

Besides, Sandra is much happier now, living her natural self....

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:36:32 AM

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If this was 10,000 years ago I'd be inclined to agree with the whole furthering of the species/multiple partners arguement but that point is kind of made invalid by the fact that we've evolved somewhat as a species.

Ahhhh, the human arrogence and individual self importance stance. Our instints are exactly what they are good fellow. You can deny them if you wish, but trying to understand them and then live your life while knowing and not denying your primal urges will actually right many present wrongs if you ask me.

That's so churchy to claim we are actually better than we are.

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Murder is also natural as seen in pretty much every group or species on the planet but collectively as humans we've agreed that its probably not the best idea going around smiting those weaker than you.

You seem to believe all the propaganda. I assure you that there are more people than not that believe that the dismissal of those that are of lessor value than they're worth is commonplace, just not openly admitted. So get over yourself.

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We do a lot of things that go against our natural, more base instincts that's what separates us from the animals.

You are now and always will be an animal, it's only your personal naivety and arrogence that clouds you from that fact.

It's denying your nature that inspires so much confusion within our society. Look beyond the machine that would control you and understand who you are young man.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:39:33 AM

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She looks so........................................................tastey!!!

I think I just growled.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:41:40 AM

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I know I did...

how have you been, Bull?

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:42:22 AM

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So are you saying that we should give in to every primal desire that comes over us? And when I meant evolved I should've clarified and said culturally. Obviously actual evolution takes a hell of a lot longer than the short time present humans have been around.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:43:31 AM

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I've been ssssssssssssssmokin'.......

How about you?

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:44:35 AM

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Bull, I am as peachy as can be.....

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:46:34 AM

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I don't believe I said "give in" to anything....I said understand and for the sake of this discussion, perhaps even embrace.

To deny that you have primal instincts and not understanding what it is that compels the man you are is just counter productive and troublesome in the end. Have a look around you.

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So are you saying that we should give in to every primal desire that comes over us? And when I meant evolved I should've clarified and said culturally. Obviously actual evolution takes a hell of a lot longer than the short time present humans have been around.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:48:57 AM

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So are you saying that we should give in to every primal desire that comes over us?

Don't they teach logic in schools anymore? Or was it cut as too liberal?

Why is it any response to a point is assigning some extreme straw man position to the original claimant? Or in other words, how is making up shit a logical position?

If you aren't able to address the actual points instead of making up ones to attack, then you don't have a case.

If you aren't able to see the difference, perhaps address that deficiency in your education.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:49:53 AM

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Oh I can certainly understand that each and every one of us has certain urges that we can either act upon or repress. Maybe I am naive in my thinking that humans are better off than we were thousands of years ago. (Sorry for the slight thread derail, I do enjoy these types of discussions.)

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:51:26 AM

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Maybe I am naive in my thinking that humans are better off than we were thousands of years ago.

No one's arguing that either.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:55:05 AM

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No need for a personal attack, you could have simply said, that there are certain urges that are ok to act on (sex with more than one partner) and ones that aren't (murder) and I would've viewed that as a valid view point.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 9:57:33 AM

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Like this one.

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 10:02:47 AM

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Holy shit!! That's Sandra???

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RE: Jesse James: stupid, or just dumb? - 3/19/2010 10:13:59 AM

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She's changed a lot since she's been with me....