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DomKen -> Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 7:39:25 AM)

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/6938/sean-hannitys-freedom-concert-scam-only-7-of-charitys-money-went-to-injured-troops-kids-of-fallen-troops-g5s-g6s-for-vannity/

I'm sure this is exactly what people who give money to his charity think is happening to their money.




Lucylastic -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 7:45:42 AM)

wanna see him hung high n dry if this is true




kittinSol -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 7:52:59 AM)

How surprising [&:] .




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 9:18:26 AM)

Try reading the tax return instead of the article. The main purpose of FA is providing college scholarships to children of those killed in the Iraq War and later. How many of those killed even have kids of college age yet?

A charitable trust was established that has nearly $10 million in assets. $1 million has been paid directly to students. That alone is more than 39% of total revenues devoted to its charitable purpose, which is very typical. "3.68% paid out" is a meaningless number given the primary purpose

The compensation of the officers and staff is entirely reasonable. SH was paid $0.

Much ado about very little.




Moonhead -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 9:20:40 AM)

Quite. Ken will be accusing him of having a Kenyan birth certificate or being a muslim next...




thompsonx -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 10:26:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Try reading the tax return instead of the article. The main purpose of FA is providing college scholarships to children of those killed in the Iraq War and later.

That is not true.  We all read the article just like you did and that is not what it says.

How many of those killed even have kids of college age yet?


Since this war is being fought with the national guard I would imagine that there are quite a few but you do bring up an interesting point.  Why don't you take a few key strokes through google and tell us how many ?

The compensation of the officers and staff is entirely reasonable. SH was paid $0.
You did notice the cost of the "expenses" did you not?




DomKen -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 11:22:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Try reading the tax return instead of the article. The main purpose of FA is providing college scholarships to children of those killed in the Iraq War and later. How many of those killed even have kids of college age yet?

A charitable trust was established that has nearly $10 million in assets. $1 million has been paid directly to students. That alone is more than 39% of total revenues devoted to its charitable purpose, which is very typical. "3.68% paid out" is a meaningless number given the primary purpose

The compensation of the officers and staff is entirely reasonable. SH was paid $0.

Much ado about very little.

39% of a charities revenues going to the actual charitable work is an atrociously low percentage. Good charities spend at least 75% of revenues on their programs and less than 25% on other stuff.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 12:25:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Try reading the tax return instead of the article. The main purpose of FA is providing college scholarships to children of those killed in the Iraq War and later. How many of those killed even have kids of college age yet?

A charitable trust was established that has nearly $10 million in assets. $1 million has been paid directly to students. That alone is more than 39% of total revenues devoted to its charitable purpose, which is very typical. "3.68% paid out" is a meaningless number given the primary purpose

The compensation of the officers and staff is entirely reasonable. SH was paid $0.

Much ado about very little.

39% of a charities revenues going to the actual charitable work is an atrociously low percentage. Good charities spend at least 75% of revenues on their programs and less than 25% on other stuff.


That depends on your definition of "good". 75% is the very top of the range, which is far beyond good and it is achieved only by high volume low cost charities like United Way that have coroporate affiliations to defray costs. FA is low volume, very high cost because of the nature of a concert tour, where you have to rent venues, pay for security, pay for the acts, pay for insurance, pay for the union workers that set up and tear down the equipment.

39% is not at all low for that kind of operation.




thompsonx -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 2:29:24 PM)

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That depends on your definition of "good". 75% is the very top of the range, which is far beyond good and it is achieved only by high volume low cost charities like United Way that have coroporate affiliations to defray costs. FA is low volume, very high cost because of the nature of a concert tour, where you have to rent venues, pay for security, pay for the acts, pay for insurance, pay for the union workers that set up and tear down the equipment.

39% is not at all low for that kind of operation.



We all wanna thank you for the extensive validation you provided to substantiate your claim.




Moonhead -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 3:29:28 PM)

Charities that pay 75% of their income are obviously run by evil liberals. What other reason could there be that Wilbur's found in his research?




Jeffff -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 3:44:07 PM)

I have GOT to get myself a foundation!


The John D, and Katheryn T. Anteater Foundation.
Providing Better living for Jeffff and some selected Friends




DomKen -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 4:02:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Try reading the tax return instead of the article. The main purpose of FA is providing college scholarships to children of those killed in the Iraq War and later. How many of those killed even have kids of college age yet?

A charitable trust was established that has nearly $10 million in assets. $1 million has been paid directly to students. That alone is more than 39% of total revenues devoted to its charitable purpose, which is very typical. "3.68% paid out" is a meaningless number given the primary purpose

The compensation of the officers and staff is entirely reasonable. SH was paid $0.

Much ado about very little.

39% of a charities revenues going to the actual charitable work is an atrociously low percentage. Good charities spend at least 75% of revenues on their programs and less than 25% on other stuff.


That depends on your definition of "good". 75% is the very top of the range, which is far beyond good and it is achieved only by high volume low cost charities like United Way that have coroporate affiliations to defray costs. FA is low volume, very high cost because of the nature of a concert tour, where you have to rent venues, pay for security, pay for the acts, pay for insurance, pay for the union workers that set up and tear down the equipment.

39% is not at all low for that kind of operation.

bullshit. Charities that put on performances routinely get everything at the lowest possible prices. musicians and other entertainers routinely donate their time or work for scale. For instance the acts shown as part of the MDA telethon are all volunteer, with only the orchestra and technical crew being paid and then being paid scale only. MDA spends 78% of revenue on program activities not a paltry 39% and does it while still putting on an annual telethon involving many times the number of performers etc. than FA used. As a mater of fact it appears that all of the MDA's fundraising activties cost them less than 15% of revenue.
http://www.mda.org/special/annual/audit08.pdf





thornhappy -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 4:13:46 PM)

That's not the very top - plenty of ones are out there that are in the mid to high 80s.  39% is a travesty.
quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
That depends on your definition of "good". 75% is the very top of the range, which is far beyond good and it is achieved only by high volume low cost charities like United Way that have coroporate affiliations to defray costs. FA is low volume, very high cost because of the nature of a concert tour, where you have to rent venues, pay for security, pay for the acts, pay for insurance, pay for the union workers that set up and tear down the equipment.

39% is not at all low for that kind of operation.




rulemylife -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 6:26:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Try reading the tax return instead of the article. The main purpose of FA is providing college scholarships to children of those killed in the Iraq War and later. How many of those killed even have kids of college age yet?

A charitable trust was established that has nearly $10 million in assets. $1 million has been paid directly to students. That alone is more than 39% of total revenues devoted to its charitable purpose, which is very typical. "3.68% paid out" is a meaningless number given the primary purpose

The compensation of the officers and staff is entirely reasonable. SH was paid $0.

Much ado about very little.


And where did these numbers come from?

Do you for once have some documentation so we can judge the source, or is this your usual pulling things out of your ass that no one can verify?




TheHeretic -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 6:50:30 PM)

Now that's pretty disgusting, Ken.  If it is true, I'm going to hope that credible people pick up the story, and spread the word.  Of course, there has been so much wolf-crying, so many talking points of bile, where FOX News is concerned, that I'm not sure it will be believed by the people who attend these concerts and donate anyway.

That's a shame, if it isn't just libel from a blogger who got a little bit of data, to go with a pe-existing 'tude.

I'd like to know more about who is in this Hannity 'posse,' which travels in such style.  If those are contest winners, or big donors buying to be in his presence, or VIP veterans...  maybe not such a big deal.   Not that I'd have trouble imaging the arrogant fuck simply figuring that he is entitled to better than mere mortals, either. 




DomKen -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 8:48:50 PM)

Well she does link the charity's tax returns which show the the facts that very little of the money raised is being spent on veterans or their survivors. I wouldn't have posted the link without being able to see the raw data. BTW it should be kept in mind that Schlussel is a right wing blogger and I had hoped that a voice from the right might make a dent where voices on the left wouldn't.




subfever -> RE: Sean Hannity supports the Troops (3/19/2010 9:21:56 PM)

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That depends on your definition of "good". 75% is the very top of the range, which is far beyond good


Schlussel said"Keep in mind that a charity is considered reputable if no more than 25% of its revenue goes to expenses and no less than 75% of it goes to the intended charity recipients. Given that, Freedom Alliance’s balance sheets are embarrassing in their shamelessness."

The fact that Hannity isn't talking, speaks volumes.




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