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FatDomDaddy -> Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 11:11:14 AM)

So why not FIX it now and THEN pass it???


http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/EXCLUSIVE__Democrats_plan_doc_fix_after_reform.html?showall




Musicmystery -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 11:11:56 AM)

Surely this is a rhetorical question.

Either that or you're new to U.S. politics.






ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 11:15:44 AM)

The month of Februay called - it wants its headline back.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 12:34:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

The month of Februay called - it wants its headline back.


Actually its still topical because most people dont understand the "reconciliation" process. Dems are voting or deemed voting on passage of the Senate bill., and voting on amendments to the bill. If its passed, the Senate bill becomes law AS IS when Obama signs it. You have a health care reform bill in law. The amendments then have to be voted on in the Senate, and its done under "reconciliation" so that only 51 votes are needed for numbers changes, 60 votes for policy changes. the Democrats who are on the fence are taking it on faith that the amendments they deem critical to their vote will ever get done.

Eg the doctor fix, that will repeal the mandatory 10-20% cuts in Medicare reimbursements that the CBO values at nearly $400 billion and includes in the scoring of the bill, and is critical to states that are already under-served by Medicare docs.

Either projected Medicare costs go up, further exacerbating the problems of that program and screwing those states, or the cost of this bill is actually $400 billion more than the CBO is able to score it at. Either way there is a $400 billion lie being told.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 12:59:34 PM)

Which they would have known had they actually looked at the Politico story... leaked to them btw, likely from a democrat who outwardly supporting this Bill but wants it to fail.... I wonder which "name" Dem leaked it?




mnottertail -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 1:01:21 PM)

Obama?




Lucylastic -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 1:12:22 PM)

SNORTS




DomKen -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 4:09:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Which they would have known had they actually looked at the Politico story... leaked to them btw, likely from a democrat who outwardly supporting this Bill but wants it to fail.... I wonder which "name" Dem leaked it?

None of them? It's actually a hoax memo circulared by the GOP.
http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/EXCLUSIVE__Democrats_plan_doc_fix_after_reform.html?showall
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/health-care-wars-on-capitol-hill-as-dems-cry-doc-fix-memo-is-a-fake.php
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/gop-leadership-pushed-memo-dems-say-is-hoax/




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 6:49:52 PM)

you mean like the thing on Hannity?




rulemylife -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 7:06:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

So why not FIX it now and THEN pass it???


http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/EXCLUSIVE__Democrats_plan_doc_fix_after_reform.html?showall



Uh..........well................this is your link:


UPDATE: Democrats challenge authenticity of ‘doc fix’ memo

An earlier post in this spot detailed what was purported by Republicans to be an internal Democratic memo regarding the upcoming health reform vote Sunday. Democratic leadership has challenged the authenticity of the memo. POLITICO has removed the memo and the details about it until we can absolutely verify the document’s origin.


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Lucylastic -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 7:11:32 PM)

Dont you just love it when a plan comes together, LMAO 




rulemylife -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 7:12:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

you mean like the thing on Hannity?


I'm sorry, did I miss the part where the allegations against Hannity were debunked?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/19/2010 10:53:24 PM)

Yes




DomKen -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/20/2010 8:30:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Yes

Where?




tazzygirl -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/20/2010 9:17:47 AM)

No

http://spectator.org/blog/2010/03/19/schlussels-hannity-smear-debun




Moonhead -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/20/2010 9:19:41 AM)

Just imagine the fuss there'd be if the health bill was worth a shit to start off with: that'd hardly bear thinking about, would it?




tazzygirl -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/20/2010 10:17:47 AM)

It was worth it, in the beginning.




Moonhead -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/20/2010 10:23:01 AM)

Sadly that didn't last, though.




tazzygirl -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/20/2010 10:24:17 AM)

Few things do after politicians get done. Too many worrying about elections. I wonder how many, on both sides, realize just how deeply this issue has already affected their future careers.




juliaoceania -> RE: Democrats already planning on fixing Health Bill AFTER it becomes law (3/20/2010 10:32:47 AM)

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