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Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 2:31:41 AM   
allthatjaz


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Status: offline 		I have never been nor intend to be a swinger but yesterday at a fet market, I had an interesting conversation about tolerance within this community. He told me that he was a swinger and that occasionally a single swinging woman will put herself out to every guy in the club to become pregnant. He went on to say that when he tells people this in the BDSM community he often gets a shocked reaction.
The thing that shocked me more than anything was that no contraception was being used. I always believed that swingers were cautious but it seems I'm wrong.
I had to ask the question... 'So if someone joins this sort of swinging community who has HIV, he/she could knowingly pass this disease on to dozens of people with ease?'
He just shrugged his shoulders and said that as far as he knew, it had never happened.

Is this guy living in a pipe dream? please tell me he is.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 3:33:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Statistically speaking, it's much more difficult for a man to contract HIV from a woman, than it is for a woman or man to contract it from a man.

That being said, this guy does sound mostly full of it.  I knew one woman who had a husband who was sterile, who tried to convince me to impregnate her many years ago.  That's wayyyy by far the exception, not the rule. 

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 5:11:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		There's been a resurgence of bareback sex within the gay community and they all know better, so yeah, I can see people being this stupid. But having sex with everyone just to get pregnant? You would have to be pretty stupid to not care about the genetics of the father. That means you don't care if he's stupid or butt ugly or anything else and won't mind if the kid inherits it.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 6:21:20 AM   
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There's been a resurgence of bareback sex within the gay community and they all know better, so yeah, I can see people being this stupid. But having sex with everyone just to get pregnant? You would have to be pretty stupid to not care about the genetics of the father. That means you don't care if he's stupid or butt ugly or anything else and won't mind if the kid inherits it.


Not to mention inheritable diseases and the like which is what first came to my mind. That you are literally taking on anyone's genetics to make a baby. Wow. It just kind of defies logic like playing Russian Roulette with your future baby's chances and your own health.

For the woman to accept any guy in the group as potentially contributing half of her baby's genetics is a huge risk to take. For a man there is the possibility of the inevitable knock on the door from someone standing there with a court order for paternity testing - either one would turn me away from it. Just seems like a pretty cavalier way to approach baby making...but people have been doing that without any thought put into it for eons.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 7:56:54 AM   
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There's been a resurgence of bareback sex within the gay community and they all know better, so yeah, I can see people being this stupid. But having sex with everyone just to get pregnant? You would have to be pretty stupid to not care about the genetics of the father. That means you don't care if he's stupid or butt ugly or anything else and won't mind if the kid inherits it.


A large part of that reasons is a large percentage of the gay community knew what life was before the onset of the HIV virus and for some reason, they are trying to recreate the casual sex attitude that was predominant in the pre-AIDS era.


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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 8:40:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know Bear. I'm from Fire Island Pines. But what followed the casual sex era was going to funerals. I went to more than anyone should of kids in their 20s. Balloons and teddy bears at the graveside.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 8:45:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jazz, I would think most women would be a lot more "choosey" than that.
Wouldn't they want to not only "know" who the father was but also have him involved in the child's life? One would think so.
And unprotected sex is just dangerous period.
Like Stephann I was in a similar situation years ago and declined because the husband was a dick and I heard that he was abusive.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 9:50:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

There's been a resurgence of bareback sex within the gay community and they all know better, so yeah, I can see people being this stupid. But having sex with everyone just to get pregnant? You would have to be pretty stupid to not care about the genetics of the father. That means you don't care if he's stupid or butt ugly or anything else and won't mind if the kid inherits it.


A large part of that reasons is a large percentage of the gay community knew what life was before the onset of the HIV virus and for some reason, they are trying to recreate the casual sex attitude that was predominant in the pre-AIDS era.



Your both right about this. The toilets of a club I attend which is normally a gay club has notices on the walls and doors saying
'If you take a naked cock up your ass, be aware that pre-cum and cum absorbs into your body like a sponge'
I used to attend this club years ago but its only recently that these warnings are being put up.


I think as far as getting pregnant by any Tom, Dick or Harry is not only foolish but idiotic.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 10:07:31 AM   
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I think as far as getting pregnant by any Tom, Dick or Harry is not only foolish but idiotic.
also unfair to a child who has a right to know the health history of the parent.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 3:34:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know of swinging clubs like this unfortunately and while I don't know of any women personally doing it to get pregnant I wouldn't be surprised at all.


edited to add: Oh wait..I do know of one but it was more complicated than just looking to get pregnant.


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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 7:59:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello?!?!  Have you people learned nothing from this internet site???  If it is kinky, SOMEBODY is doing it, and wants to find someone else to do it with!

Really fucking stupid?  Of course, but if that is what gets consenting adults off, have fun.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/22/2010 9:31:07 PM   
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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/23/2010 7:15:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Logically speaking, what is the difference of going to a sperm bank? Apart of course from the STD issue.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/23/2010 8:51:16 PM   
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what is the difference of going to a sperm bank?



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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/24/2010 5:42:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

I had an interesting conversation about tolerance within this community.

Always amazes me how little of it the "community" seems to have, no matter the issue. I agree 110% with Rich's post. Hard to be shocked that people are doing all kinds of things that are unsavory to others. It happens everyday and the "wrongness" of it depends on your point of view. Many people think the concept of a site like this and the alleged activities of those who frequent it are sick and wrong. Different strokes and all that jazz ;)

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/24/2010 5:59:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		slaveluci, I think I'm a pretty tolerant person but I'm not going to put my hand up and say that I think everything's cool. I'm never tolerant about stupidity and I personally believe that risking ones health for ones kink is stupid, irresponsible and inconsiderate.
As far as making a baby with anyone or everyone, that's up to her but to put a babies life at risk is stupid, irresponsible and inconsiderate.
Being tolerant doesn't mean we have to wash away any moral judgment and not have a point of view.

There is one thing I am very tolerant of and that is vanilla people being intolerant of the things I get up to.


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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/24/2010 4:55:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe a sperm bank and the whole medical procedure seems less exciting?
Who knows. Be glad this isn't your life...

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/24/2010 6:01:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz
slaveluci, I think I'm a pretty tolerant person but I'm not going to put my hand up and say that I think everything's cool.

That's good. Neither am I.
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I'm never tolerant about stupidity and I personally believe that risking ones health for ones kink is stupid, irresponsible and inconsiderate.

You're entitled to your intolerance of things you think are "stupid, irresponsible and inconsiderate." My whole point it that each of us think different things are "stupid, irresponsible and inconsiderate." Just because I find certain behaviors/actions to be those things doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to do them.
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As far as making a baby with anyone or everyone, that's up to her but to put a babies life at risk is stupid, irresponsible and inconsiderate.

Again, you're entitled to feel that. Personally, I feel having a baby period is stupid Not for everyone, of course, just for me personally. That's something I'm not tolerant of...babies in my own life.
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Being tolerant doesn't mean we have to wash away any moral judgment and not have a point of view.

No it certainly does not. I have never said it did. As a matter of fact, in these very forums, I have argued this same point. You're right!
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There is one thing I am very tolerant of and that is vanilla people being intolerant of the things I get up to.

Good for you, Maria. I'm not real tolerant of intolerance no matter who it's coming from. Thanks for the pov..........luci

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/29/2010 11:52:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I don't know the person, I may nor approve, but I'm going to let them think and do what they want. No words of wisdom to impart as their mind has been made up. My ideas will have no bearing on the decision at hand. There are fools in any way of life. I choose my own behavior and let sleeping dogs lie. If someone is going to be irresponsible in their choices, vanilla, kink, whatever, they have made their own decision.

It certainly isn't fair to any child born from such an encounter. And knowing mommy doesn't care about who schtupped her makes me think this woman isn't responsible to bring up this child. Hell, she doesn't have the sense gawd gave a peanut.

No peanuts were harmed in the posting to this thread. No replies from peanuts, this is in no way meant to be disrespectful.

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RE: Swinging to get pregnant? - 3/30/2010 1:39:19 AM   
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I could only think of the rights of a child.

That could be a messy debate ... naffink "laarge" gaaaaink on ... honest (piss off, have a pint and it'll get sorted).

You have the entirely best consideration at your disposal.

Other questions arise, but they don't come in "Lite"

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