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Wax Play - 4/1/2006 9:37:35 PM   
cutelinygurl84


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I was just wondeirng about wax play and what its all about.  I am really intrested and want to try it.  Just too arfaid I will get burned.  Just wondering if I should try it?  I would also like to know whats the best way to approach it the first time I do it?  Are there any specific candles I should use or will any due?  I dont want any burn marks left on me where my family or doctor could see and ask me about.  Any advice you have on this topic will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/1/2006 9:43:09 PM   
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I am not terribly experienced with wax play (though I love what I've done so far!).  What I know so far:

Do NOT use beeswax candles as they melt at a higher temp.
Soy candles are great to begin with as they melt at a lowere temp than "regular" candles and are less hot.
I believe that white candles are less painful than the colored ones, though I'm not sure why.

When I've played with wax, it's made the skin pink for less than an hour, though I have not played with lots of people and don't know the variation in responses.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/1/2006 9:48:16 PM   
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I also heard beeswax hurts alot.  My friend told me to just use white candles.  The thing is my dom(bf) might do it wrong and hurt me since he is inexperienced with wax play. I think someone might need to show him how to do it before we go any further with this topic.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/1/2006 11:03:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cutelinygurl84

I was just wondeirng about wax play and what its all about.  I am really intrested and want to try it.  Just too arfaid I will get burned.  Just wondering if I should try it?  I would also like to know whats the best way to approach it the first time I do it?  Are there any specific candles I should use or will any due?  I dont want any burn marks left on me where my family or doctor could see and ask me about.  Any advice you have on this topic will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

Cutelinygurl84


Soy candles are better if you dont want marks. If youre playing with an experienced partner, they'll know how high to hold the candle- the higher the fall, the lower the temp is when it hits the skin.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/1/2006 11:38:53 PM   
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my Master used normal candles on me (white). and the sensation is very intense, but like it goes in about half a second. Obviously some areas are more sensative than others, and if you're wet it makes a difference too... i enjoy it though. it wakes you up and makes you feel alive and refreshed, and my Master enjoyed it too, coz of the faces i pulled, and to see Him smile just makes you enjoy it that bit more anyway... well does me

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 5:58:48 AM   
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This is the link I used when I was researching wax play:

http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/BDSMinfo/hot_wax.htm

We used white church candles, the sensation was hot and it stung but not too bad and the red marks were gone after about an hour. I wore a blindfold and it was exquisite not knowing where the sensation was going to be next! The feeling as the wax cools and tightens on the skin feels wonderful too

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 6:17:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cutelinygurl84

I also heard beeswax hurts alot.  My friend told me to just use white candles.  The thing is my dom(bf) might do it wrong and hurt me since he is inexperienced with wax play. I think someone might need to show him how to do it before we go any further with this topic.

Go online and research bdsm support groups in your area. Many of them offer classes from time to time on a variety of subjects. Or join your local munch group, see if someone there has experience.

Buy plain white unscented candles and have your Master practice dripping wax on his inner wrist area to get a feel for the distances required for safe play. The 1st few times you do play stick to areas such as your stomach or tops of thighs until you see how it feels and how your body handles this.  





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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 6:24:40 AM   
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Cutelinygurl84

I have a question for you  Your posting a lot on this site but your profile is not active   So are you real or some player messing with peoples minds. Some of the things your talking about are out in left field

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 6:54:19 AM   
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The three main factors determining the heat of wax, when dripping or pouring it onto someone, are:

1. How hot that particular wax has to get, in order to melt - Various types of wax liquify at different temperatures.  For example, the wax contained in a "novena" or seven-day candle usually melts at a lower heat.  This is because the wax doesn't need to keep its shape and because wax that becomes too hot could shatter the glass.  Conversely, a slow-burning, hard wax, free-standing candle with coloring may burn at a very high temperature.  Bee's wax burns very hot - I wouldn't recommended it for application on skin.  As someone else has mentioned, here, the colorless "utility" candles or emergency candles are pretty reliable.

Please, always test the wax you're using, before applying it to tender parts, full boar.

2. How far away from the skin/body you hold the candle, when dripping or pouring it - The distance the wax has to fall thru the air, before contacting the skin, makes a difference in temperature, too.  The farther from the skin, the more time the wax has to cool.

By trial and error, this could partially compensate for wax that's a bit too hot.

3. How thick or thin the puddle or drops of wax are, as they rest against the skin - Be very careful of wax pooling against skin or of applying it too thickly, in one spot.  This means that some of the wax doesn't have a chance to cool immediately, and wax that rests against the skin while still hot enough to be liquid, may retain enough heat to burn the skin. 

A friend once showed me a nasty burn to his nipple, due to wax being both at a hotter melting temperature than he and his partner were used to using and also because the wax was applied too thickly in one place and this allowed some of it to stay too hot next to his skin.


Have fun!  By the way, how're you going to get that wax off? :)

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 6:58:03 AM   
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quote:

By the way, how're you going to get that wax off? :)


Knives!

(Or one of those rubbery scrapey kitchen thingys, if the thought of a knife against your skin doesn't make you squirm in the best of ways.)

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 7:04:15 AM   
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knives are fun but I also found another nifty tool! I used the wooden slat out of the bottom of a shade to tap tap tap with increased force and tempo til the wax cracked and started coming off.  It was especially fun when I started around the more private and tender bits..........

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 9:51:11 AM   
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http://www.bdsmwaxplay.com/erotic_waxing.htm

This is a friend of ours who is obsessed with wax play..so much that he started his own lifestyle waplay candle company.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 1:56:25 PM   
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I never made an active profile yet.  I  just wanted advice from people on these topics since I am new to all this.  Sorry you feel the things I am talking about are out in left field.  Just needed some advice from others and I thought this would be a good place to start. 

Cutelinygurl84

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 2:13:47 PM   
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Had to toss in my two cents on this subject ....

you have been given GREAT tips on how to proceed and/or do this .... but very best thing you can do is to buy a white taper candle and test it out on yourself first on areas (as it has been said)  such as thighs, stomach or wrist ...

as you learn what works for YOU then the decision to take it to the next step becomes easier ...

BOTTOM LINE: like anything we learn ... practice practice practice ...

enjoy yourself and please please please read up more at the links you have been provided ....

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 2:58:31 PM   
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I've used all sorts of candles, with differing results. In general, the cheaper the candle the better the results. This being because parrafin is cheaper than beeswax. Tapers are usually not bad it held hight, but the larger cylinder candles usually burn cooler and provide a little pool of wax to be dribbled where desired.
 
I always test anything that can cause pain on myself before using it on someone else, and candles are no exception. 24 inches away from the skin to begin testing is my general rule, then shorten the distance depending on how cool the wax is. Don't forget that a large pool of wax will retain more heat than a few splattered drops, and I also suggest using a drop cloth because wax is a bitch to get out of sheets and mattresses.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 8:49:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Halcyone

quote:

By the way, how're you going to get that wax off? :)


Knives!

(Or one of those rubbery scrapey kitchen thingys, if the thought of a knife against your skin doesn't make you squirm in the best of ways.)



I found a good whipping and a spell with the crop worked wonders for cleaning the wax off me lol

esina xxx

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RE: Wax Play - 4/2/2006 8:58:58 PM   
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I think it's well worth trying it. I love candles being dripped all over me as well as wax poured all over me. Just make sure he knows what he's doing.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/3/2006 6:42:51 AM   
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This is my general wax play design, easily modifiable if you want to
include multiple people.

Supplies: wax, long tip lighter, sheet or tarp, baby oil, knife,
baby powder, blindfold, (if using a crock pot, ladle, spatula,
paintbrush, any other spreading toys that look interesting)

Get the wax: Either two blocks of paraffin and two glassed church
candles melted together in a crock pot, or just the church candles
for easier transporting. I haven't noticed much temperature
derivation using these types of candles, but white wax is harder to
see where it falls and green tends to just look black on a person.
Start prep at least 2 hours before the scene by lighting the candles
or starting the wax to melt. If the candles are cold, it will take
longer and the wax won't melt as evenly

Prep the area: Flat surface is necessary, a bondage or massage
table usually works fine and is padded. Outside is nice because you
don't have to worry about getting wax on anything. If you are on
the floor, put a flannel sheet or comforter down first to keep
things from being too cold. Cover with an old sheet or tarp, and if
you're off the floor, cover the area nearby as well. Wax will get
everywhere! Lay out all supplies beforehand, you don't want to have
to leave burning candles or naked person alone too long. Also, make
sure your area is well-heated. Even though the wax will get them
warm and give them a nice shell, when it comes off they will feel
the cooler air.

Prep the people: Don't wear your good fetish gear! Again, wax will
get everywhere. For the waxer, wear throw away clothes and/or an
apron. For the waxee, get them naked and blindfolded. I like to
have their focus totally on the wax sensations and you don't have to
worry about wax splattering into eyes. Lay them down on the
surface, starting stomach down usually works best.

Start the scene: Start to connect with the bottom by massaging
their skin, letting them relax into position and get used to your
touch. Massage the baby oil onto their skin. Not only does this
feel yummy, but prevents wax from painfully sticking to hair and
makes it much easier to peel or scrape off. Once you're fully into
the scene, you can get into the wax.

Waxing: I start generally about 18 inches above the persons skin.
Get a good full layer all over their body. Be careful about
dripping on the sides as the skin is more sensitive. Once you've
established an initial layer, you can have more fun with sensations,
bringing the wax lower or higher to build heat (the higher the wax,
the more the splatter). You can paint the wax on, let it drip
slowly or just wash it over them with a ladle. The feet are also
lots of fun. On the stomach, be careful of the belly button.
Sometimes it's good just to put a plug of wax in there or cover it
with a cotton ball.

Removing wax: Wax is likely to still be slightly soft and pliable.
If you're peeling the wax, getting as much in one motion is a very
awesome feeling for the sub. Slowly start at the edges and pull up,
gathering the wax as you go. If you scrape, just press down gently
and pull towards the wax and down. There's always a few drips and
splatters to scrape off. If you've used oil, it should come off
fairly easily. Don't try to get off every piece of wax- a good
shower will do the best job at that.

After the wax: Once you've removed the wax, I sprinkle babypowder
all over the skin. The skin is very sensitive at this point and the
cool softness of the powder feels like rose petals just falling
down. You can rub the powder in and smooth over the skin. This
will help dry off some of the oil as well.

If you want to reuse your sheet, put it in the freezer to freeze the
wax, take it outside and get as much as you can off by shaking or
pulling it. Then toss in the washer and drier to remove the rest.

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RE: Wax Play - 4/3/2006 9:09:00 AM   
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I am going to try wax with my Master, i can hardly wait it seem very hot (no pun intended) and erotic.  He is experienced so i am not worried about getting burned, i think it can be a lot of fun, messy but fun.  I heard the cheaper the candle the better.

Matt's littleone

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RE: Wax Play - 4/3/2006 9:22:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littleone35

I am going to try wax with my Master, i can hardly wait it seem very hot (no pun intended) and erotic.  He is experienced so i am not worried about getting burned, i think it can be a lot of fun, messy but fun.  I heard the cheaper the candle the better.

Matt's littleone

Price doesn't have much to do with it, I'm sure there are cheap crappy candles out there.  However, paraffin or soft wax candles really aren't expensive.

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