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OrpheusAgonistes -> RE: Do you consider (3/30/2010 4:20:31 PM)

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being owned property as more intense than being a slave?


In the words of the great 21st century American philosopher Stanley Hudson "That's like asking what is the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns?"

Words and definitions are just the beginnings of a negotiation.  The negotiation between all parties is the dynamic of the relationship, which is all that matters in the final analysis.

To me personally, the notion of "owned property" connotes a level of objectification and disengagement that "slavery" does not.  It implies that relationship between the owner and the owned can no longer even be quantified or bounded by the normal range of human emotional attachment.

"Owned property" has nothing inherent to offer.  It has nothing to give, except what can be taken out of it.  Notions of "kindness" or "cruelty" no longer apply, either.

For some, I think this level of dehumanization and disengagement is the brutal but ineluctable terminus of their masochistic urges carried out to their most extreme logical progression.  It's another (more literal) form of ego-death.

That's how I would gloss the notion of "owned property" in the abstract, Ideal form.  How the dynamic would/does actually play out is, of course, a different matter.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Do you consider (3/30/2010 4:31:24 PM)

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i have had cats show up at my door and walk in and make themselves at home - obviously seeking to be owned.


Don't kid yourself, sweetie, they just know a good thing when they see it.  The whole "own me" thing is projecting human concepts on cats [;)]




trueshadow -> RE: Do you consider (3/31/2010 8:05:09 PM)

Yeah, no cat is owned.  Cats choose where to live.  Feel honored if they want to be with you.  I do.  I love my cats, especially the feisty ones.  




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