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MLskajira -> lying (4/2/2006 1:58:02 AM)
if a Master tells His slave that He is not getting another one and she will be the "only", then she finds that He has not only been looking for another, but may have already found and claimed one, does she have the right to feel lied to and betrayed? because that is exactally how this girl feels.

Focus50 -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 3:12:12 AM)
Bullseye! If something looks, walks and quacks like a duck, I'm generally satisfied I'm looking at a duck! I'll add that most subs generally don't get to tell a Dom what to do but you do get to decide if you wanna remain in his life. Focus.

slavejali -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 3:24:08 AM)
Yes you have a right to feel betrayed and lied to, as that is exactly what has happened. What is your next step?

RavenMuse -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 4:03:48 AM)
That is a man not true to his word.... it isn't something where the circumstances simply changed, if he said you where to be the only but kept looking for another then it is a lie no matter how it is painted.

MasterTonyS -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 4:04:51 AM)
You definitely were lied to and your trust has been rightly violated. I would suggest that you walk away from him and find another Dominant who is more open and honest with you. It's a shame to see someone have their trust and submission not only taken for granted but completly ignored by the very individual who should be cherising and protecting it. If he was any kind of honorable DOm, He would have said something up front instead of trying to "hedge his bet"

CanadianGuy -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 4:41:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MLskajira does she have the right to feel lied to and betrayed? The right? You feel how you feel. You don't need anyone's permission to feel anything. In fact, it's not possible to force someone to feel or not feel - that just happens. As for what happened... it's too bad that he lied to you. If he had said that he was going to train another slave, you may very well have been quite happy for him, and perhaps enjoyed the idea of getting a "sister" or whatever you'd call it. And both serve your Master, with you being his first. Also, perhaps you would have been offended, I don't know. You have the right to feel however you feel. But he LIED. Could you leave him? Of course, you always can. Nobody, even if owned, has to stay, even if you've written out contract and so on and so forth. But should you? I don't know. Talk to him about it, and say that you feel like your trust has been shaken. Ask him why he lied. If he is defensive, angry, or says you have no right to ask, then you're kind of stuck. I would hope that he admitted that lying hurts a relationship. If he says "I'm your Master, I can take another slave if I want!" then that's probably true. But to lie and hide it from you wasn't right, IMO. I'm sorry for your bad situation. I hope you can figure out a way to repair the damage and serve him with all your heart again.

Quivver -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 5:23:23 AM)
quote: He is not getting another one and she will be the "only", then she finds that He has not only been looking for another, but may have already found and claimed one, does she have the right to feel lied to and betrayed? Although I agree with everyone else that this appears to be blantent, a few questions came to mind. 1st is how long have you and your Master been together? We all know when we are out looking we all talk to more then one. If this relationship is new, is it possible that this new Slave is just one that wasnt picked and hasnt let go yet? If this isnt the case I'd guess your Master is wearing his Duck suit and you've gotta choose if he's worth your staying for. That alone is a difficult choice, and I wish you well with what ever you choose. Hugs Q

subjected2006 -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 5:37:46 AM)
if he actually said it or just hinted at it ..a lie is a lie. i would jump ship. you now have the option of going cold turkey or drawing this out to the inevitable conclusion. just sayin'...

subjected2006 -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 5:41:29 AM)
oh yes and i must tell you that i sincerly feel for ya kiddo..it aint easy..it isnt going to get easier either. i hope find the strength to deal with it quickly.

smilezz -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 5:51:39 AM)
Unfortunately, yes.............you have been lied to. It's now time to sit down and have a very long talk with this man and decide if this is where you want to go or move on. I wish you much peace... ~smilezz~

Level -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 6:03:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MLskajira if a Master tells His slave that He is not getting another one and she will be the "only", then she finds that He has not only been looking for another, but may have already found and claimed one, does she have the right to feel lied to and betrayed? because that is exactally how this girl feels. Of course, because that's exactly what happened. Just because one is a master does not suddenly alleviate them from moral behavior. And just because one calls themself a master doesn't mean that they are one, either.

sweetpettjenny -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 9:16:30 AM)
This in fact is one of the biggies in the lying department....me personally id ask for a release.... quote: ORIGINAL: MLskajira if a Master tells His slave that He is not getting another one and she will be the "only", then she finds that He has not only been looking for another, but may have already found and claimed one, does she have the right to feel lied to and betrayed? because that is exactally how this girl feels.

Evanesce -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 10:26:24 AM)
quote: if a Master tells His slave that He is not getting another one and she will be the "only", then she finds that He has not only been looking for another, but may have already found and claimed one, does she have the right to feel lied to and betrayed? because that is exactally how this girl feels. Of course you have the right to feel lied to and betrayed. Because you HAVE been lied to and betrayed. Now, the question is, can or do you still trust him as your Master to be truthful and honorable in all the other areas of your life, or are you going to walk away and find someone who won't lie to you? If I were in your shoes, I'd be out the door.

cillydom -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 10:29:14 AM)
all contractual obligations are null and void

cajingrl -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 10:33:12 AM)
i know exactly how you feel...i have had the very same thing happen to me a week after i was collared....i ended up asking for release..it took him about 3 days to finally grant me the release, but i took it and ran....i figured that if he would do it to me once, that he would do it to me again.....i sincerely hope that you find peace within yourself to do the right thing....

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 11:19:54 AM)
You're obviously seeking validation in your feelings. Your screen name implies you are a kajira. Your choice is either you can submit to your Master or you can beg release from his collar. If he does not release you, you can still leave. Your choice to make, but don't sit and whine about it.

wouldlike2 -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 11:22:12 AM)
a lie is a lie - like a rose is a rose... imo.. everyone who is sincere in that lifestyle talks about honesty.... that is the basic relations exist.... i would and can not accept it - especially cause i think You negotiate before and have agreements Y/you both made before enter in a D/s or M/s relation

MLskajira -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 12:21:47 PM)
this girl has recently found out (from a slave friend of her's) that it was a SNAFU, and her Master hasnt lied to her. this stems from the fact that this girl just had to send her cub to court ordered boot-camp, have her Master put the precious little dog she has had for 12 years, down, and her mother just had 2 heart attacks, all within the last week and a half. and she has not been able to have any quality time with her Master. she is feeling dissed and unwanted, and it is all in her head. MLkajira bitch

MLskajira -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 12:25:47 PM)
this girl has belonged to ML for the last year and a half. not only is she wearing His collar, she also wears His ring (no W/we are not "married"). at first He told this girl He wanted more than 1 slave, but has since then, told her He has changed His mind, that is why she freaked out when she found what she thought she had found.

wouldlike2 -> RE: lying (4/2/2006 12:30:22 PM)
quote: this girl has recently found out (from a slave friend of her's) that it was a SNAFU, and her Master hasnt lied to her. this stems from the fact that this girl just had to send her cub to court ordered boot-camp, have her Master put the precious little dog she has had for 12 years, down, and her mother just had 2 heart attacks, all within the last week and a half. and she has not been able to have any quality time with her Master. she is feeling dissed and unwanted, and it is all in her head. quote: ORIGINAL: MLskajira this girl has belonged to ML for the last year and a half. not only is she wearing His collar, she also wears His ring (no W/we are not "married"). at first He told this girl He wanted more than 1 slave, but has since then, told her He has changed His mind, that is why she freaked out when she found what she thought she had found. being honest - sounds a bit confused to me...... all the best!!

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