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Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/2/2010 8:01:43 AM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		Last night I did my first suspension for a photoshoot. I really wanted to add images to my port, as I find it exceptionally beautiful.  I had only seen it done once before, but I thought it was really exciting.  The rigger was very experienced, and took a lot of time doing the rig. We talked before about any health conditions and I mentioned I have a bad shoulder from an old injury. 

We talked about how to manage that, and he decided to do a side suspension.  I usually don't have a problem clasping my arms behind my back, but I found once I got lifted that even a small amount of pressure on this got uncomfortable, which progressed to painful to excruciating. 

I tried to be a trooper and "hang" in there, to let people get pictures, but I knew towards the end I was pushing it too far.  He got me down and I felt terrible, for having to tap out.  It's hard as a sub/model to express things like that, but I knew my physical well being was important to everyone.  Today I have an extremely sore shoulder as a result, and more than anything, I'm upset b/c I wanted to do this so much and, aside from the pain, it was a WONDERFUL experience. 

The rigger said there were ways to do it so that there would be no pressure on my shoulder at all, and once I'm better, I want to try it again. I apologized to him profusely, (I almost cried) and he reassured me that 45 minutes is a long time, and I did well, especially considering I had never done it before and he'd want to do it again.  Master says He's not upset with me for getting injured, and knows why it happened, b/c I really wanted to please. I suspect had He been there He might have said something about the rig hurting my shoulder before it happened, so hopefully He will be there next time (He had a schedule conflict last night). 

Anyone do rigging and have any reassurance to offer? 

I appreciate any support that is offered!


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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/2/2010 8:08:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		No rigging info, just wanted to say be gentle with yourself and it sounds like an amazing first experience!

That whole "failing to please" guilt trip we give ourselves as submissive women is no fun. Sounds to me that everyone thought you did great for a first time - i'm jealous! Pictures please!

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/2/2010 8:18:15 AM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		thank you UniqueRaven, I appreciate it. Everyone there was very supportive and kind, no one gave me a harsh word for tapping out, other than myself anyway   It's a rush to do it, I felt so light and free afterward.  It was for a photography munch, about 15 ppl taking pictures, so hopefully someone got something to share!!! :)

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/2/2010 8:21:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been fully-suspended twice, and partially suspended 3 or 4 times, without any bad pressure on my shoulder. I had a similar experience in a class where my arms were bound behind my back at the beginning of the rope harness tie, and needed out because my hands were falling asleep and the nerves were a bit pinched/compromised before it was finished. It wasn't desperate enough to make me need to get cut out, but the pain of the circulation returning made me cry, and I was a bit apologetic about it. Usually suspension has been very peaceful for me, so far - it can be more of a "whee! fun" experience as well. Since that experience, I usually ask that my hands be bound in other positions rather than overhead or behind my back, or else that the rest of the rope work be done first, and the hands be done at the very end or with a separate short piece of rope.

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/2/2010 8:25:14 AM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		thanks for responding Andalusite, he did think to tie my arms with a quick release in case the pressure got to be too much, but the body harness ended up getting pretty elaborate, so even when he released my arms the arm/shoulder in question was still pinned behind my back, and I couldn't rotate it forward to relieve the stress so I had to come down. Thankfully not cut down, I would have felt terrible, he had so much of that expensive hemp rope on me!!!  

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/2/2010 1:40:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh! Suspension is on my wish list! But I have cervical and shoulder issues and Sir is very careful of me. He wants to learn much more about safety before He would do this. We've been to a few workshops and I think it's in my future. I can't wait.

It sounds like you did great. Especially if you were feeling the pain while still up- I know that if I have any discomfort while bound it seems to become the focus of the experience, almost out of proportion.

And I want to see pictures, too!!

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/2/2010 2:29:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		i can really sympathise with the shoulder thing, my right shoulder is phucked basically and any sort of tying behind my back or even holding my arms behind me or folding my forearms in a lock behind me is completely impossible - it makes me feel like a broken toy and i beat myself up about it too.

i used not to be able to hold my arms above my head even, but i can do that now.

anyway, just adding some empathy for shoulder pain, it is agony and i dont know about you, but once ive pulled it or overworked it, it can be a mother for days and even weeks sometimes. 

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 5:36:49 AM   
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45 minutes
Sheeesh You are a tough woman!! I have no physical issues and would never make it that long.

You did an amazing job!!


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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 6:49:32 AM   
HisSweetElysium


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly

quote:

45 minutes
Sheeesh You are a tough woman!! I have no physical issues and would never make it that long.

You did an amazing job!!



You're so sweet sirsholly, it was very peaceful and wonderful in terms of an experience, if only I didn't have this dang shoulder. 

I got the first pic back from the shoot, it's in my pics, I'll try to post it here too...







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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 6:50:40 AM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		ooh sorry everyone, I'm ginormous, LOL...

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 6:52:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium

ooh sorry everyone, I'm ginormous, LOL...
what you are is lovely.


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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 6:53:51 AM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		oh thank you thank you :) But the pic is huge, LOL, I tried resizing it, but apparently CM liked it big. ;)

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 8:12:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		um. some of us in cm do like it big indeed.

and the pic is beautiful!

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 11:58:40 AM   
Andalusite


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Status: offline 		hejira, when I first experienced suspension bondage, it was in a 2 Knotty Boys class. They walked everyone through rigging a pelvic harness. During that portion of the class, they walked my partner through suspending me in various positions (inverted, prone, nearly upright, etc.) and how to adjust the ropes to maintain or change position. Something like that might work for you, since there was no pressure on the shoulder. After that, they walked everyone through adding more decorative rope harness work to the torso, and I was put in a hog-tie position once I was already suspended.

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RE: Suspension experience--just sharing - 4/3/2010 1:18:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Next time tell him it's too painful immediately. If you had, then you wouldn't now be injured and he could have changed the suspension so it was successful right then. There's too much risk of injury with suspension to be a trooper.

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