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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 8:18:04 AM   
TheHeretic


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Yes, because THIS is the same.

Free speech does not end when the government decides.

Bush had every right to criticize it, as the media had every right to report it.






Now I know how much you enjoy a shopping cart adventure, RML, but let me be sure I have this correct. Are you saying that disclosing a classified program in the war against Al-Qaeda is no different than a radio/tv commentator criticizing the President for domestic policies/idiocy???

Is that really what you want to insist on?

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 8:39:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I get annoyed with the "in other words" responses, where a poster will claim statements were made by another person, and then go on for pages demanding they account for something that was never said, or defend a position that was never taken.

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Are you saying that disclosing a classified program in the war against Al-Qaeda is no different than a radio/tv commentator criticizing the President for domestic policies/idiocy?

Yeah, that's gotta be it, Rich. The administration never even considered national security implications. And Bush has no political agenda, just a deep seated concern for his country.

And you guys like to parrot the "intellectual dishonesty" meme. Geez.

Want to get honest? Without 9/11, Bush would be a forgotten, do-nothing, one term president who managed only to raise the deficit and national debt through ill-advised tax cuts.

Instead, he'll be remembered as a spend-thrift who started two "pre-emptive" invasions on false information and eviscerated Constitutional rights and international treaties under a false presumption of infinite strength, a soon to be permanent Republican majority, and the fantasy that a quick war fought on the cheap would bring instant peace to the Middle East.

And incidentally, Bush's war on Al-Qaeda didn't go so well. We're mopping up the mess now.

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 9:00:50 AM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		Not even a good try, Muse. You will note perhaps that I am seeking a clarification. I have not told RML what he said. I am not building a strawman to go after.

But if you want to get in the cart with RML, I'm perfectly happy to laugh my ass off at you too, when you wind up kissing the concrete.



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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 9:06:45 AM   
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You will note perhaps that I am seeking a clarification. I have not told RML what he said. I am not building a strawman to go after.


OK, I'll be more clear.

I'm asserting you are not telling the truth. A passive aggressive approach doesn't change the dishonesty, any more than "I called it first!" changes anything logically when children play that game.

You are, as you do at times, running from the merits of the discussion to personal shots at posters. It doesn't strengthen your position.

Perhaps my assertion is incorrect. If it is, then you aren't as smart as I've been giving you credit for.

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 9:20:46 AM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		How am I not telling the truth, Muse? As I'm reading what pops up on my screen, another poster seems to be saying something very, very stupid. I'm trying to determine if that is what was actually meant. I'm even still giving a little benefit of the doubt after he went all caps to insist it was.

Personal shots??? Moi?

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 11:35:52 AM   
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obama needs to quit acting like a whiny crybaby

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 11:51:07 AM   
intenze


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Status: offline 		Very nice. That was a major contribution to the discussion right there. If you ever wonder why sometimes teabaggers and the like are not taken seriously, its because of statements like yours , SShhhhh.
By the way, there is a hilarious set of comics about the tea partiers this week in Doonesbury.


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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 12:34:45 PM   
rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


Yes, because THIS is the same.

Free speech does not end when the government decides.

Bush had every right to criticize it, as the media had every right to report it.






Now I know how much you enjoy a shopping cart adventure, RML, but let me be sure I have this correct. Are you saying that disclosing a classified program in the war against Al-Qaeda is no different than a radio/tv commentator criticizing the President for domestic policies/idiocy???

Is that really what you want to insist on?


Yes.

Do we support free speech only when we think it is relevant to our national goals?

Isn't that the type of thinking that many conservatives are now complaining about?


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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 12:45:16 PM   
rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The Dems forfeited any right to complain about civil discourse. They set the fucking bar where it is, they can live in their own filth. Bed - make - lay.

It's that whole "unanticipated consequences" thing the Democrats just can't ever seem to learn about.


And which party was it that spent eight years trying to dig up any dirt possible on the President for no other reason than their loss of power?

I also predicted the same would happen if Obama was elected.

Maybe I should join the Psychic Friends Network. 

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 12:48:17 PM   
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Wow, how un presidential, and whiny.

Obama is a bitch.



No. You have that department pretty sewn up.


Really, is that your best? Cmon dead angry talentless hack, you can do better than that.



No need to. Why are so many male subs also whiny conservatives? Odd.

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 1:02:48 PM   
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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 1:05:49 PM   
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Bush was almost incapable of speaking a coherent sentence without a prepared statement or the use of a teleprompter.  Obama can.

Teleprompters have been used by presidents for ages.  Why did this suddenly become a great evil under Obama?  It's one of the most common insults on the conservative blogs that I've read.
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I would love to see Obama debate either Glenn Beck or Rush Linbaugh. No teleprompters allowed.


This whole teleprompter thing is another ridiculous distraction.




It is indeed a distraction, but pretty accurate. One might even suggest it is why he avoids the pressers at the White House, there is no script, and an oddball question might just start another incident requiring a beer summit. For the record I think the President would do fairly well in an organized debate against either of the talking heads.

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 1:33:27 PM   
TheHeretic


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No need to. Why are so many male subs also whiny conservatives? Odd.


RML is a conservative???

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 1:40:17 PM   
rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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No need to. Why are so many male subs also whiny conservatives? Odd.


RML is a conservative???


You know, I generally like to let my threads drift where they may.

But whether someone is dom or submissive should remain on the other side of the site.

Unless you can't make your argument any other way. 


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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 2:10:20 PM   
domiguy


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Status: offline 		I am sorry, you guys do kind of creep me out. I really don't know why.


People are so whiny these days...it sucks. I am sooo tired of all of the political wrangling.

Bush II was a complete fucking disaster..He made obama electable.

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 2:20:14 PM   
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People are so whiny these days...it sucks. I am sooo tired of all of the political wrangling.



Well domi, normally we are on the same side of the aisle, but I have to ask, if you are tired of the political wrangling then why are you posting on a political message board?

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 2:24:33 PM   
domiguy


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Status: offline 		Shouting at the rain.

That is all that is accomplished out here. It's fun I guess.

Do any of you think that any of your words have ever had an impact on anyone that you are addressing? Not a chance.

So we utilize it as one of our favorite forms of masturbation because we are to afraid to jerk off while we hang ourselves in the closet.

Poor Mr Carradine.

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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 2:43:55 PM   
rulemylife


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Shouting at the rain.

That is all that is accomplished out here. It's fun I guess.

Do any of you think that any of your words have ever had an impact on anyone that you are addressing? Not a chance.

So we utilize it as one of our favorite forms of masturbation because we are to afraid to jerk off while we hang ourselves in the closet.

Poor Mr Carradine.


Speak for yourself.

I have tons of fun hanging myself in the closet and masturbating.






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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 2:54:35 PM   
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RE: Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' politi... - 4/3/2010 2:57:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure I entirely agree with you on this, domidearest. Of course it's fun, but I would like to think that occasionally something I've posted has made somebody think, re-evaluate, take sides, or just smile. It's all good.

btw, my experiences here are more like foreplay. You being the resident expert on masterbation, I'm sure you wouldn't know anything about that.

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