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RE: Thesis part one - 4/5/2010 11:12:54 AM   
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If you figure it out any further- "they" wont like it.   lol

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RE: Thesis part one - 4/5/2010 8:14:06 PM   
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Freud had it wrong, but only slightly off. In those times procreation was seen as contributing to the sustenenance of humanity, and ergo those opinions made sense at the time. However, even if you embrace the Freudian ideology, I say there is an underlying factor and I think it explains a few things. Therefore I type.

The desire to reproduce is linked to some unknown quantity, some desire, some thing that may or may not be tangible, but seems so to many. I believe that the human race has some sort of connectivity that is yet undescribed and undiscovered. And I still assert that there is nothing supernatural. It is simply unknown at this time, as were many things. If you took a camera to certain places in the world in the past you might be burned at the stake as a witch. But such things are borne of fear.

Well what is fear ? Now that I look back and see my own life I see that it is finite, and of course more finite than some. But my own demise does not invoke fear in me, like the demise of the human race does. In that of course, my whole philosophy pervades.

There are many schools of thought on this, but only two are mine. One is that we as a race are doomed and headed toward the end soon, and the other is that nature is making adjustments. The latter is the premise of this text.

If self preservation, or the preservation of our race or species is paramount, then it follows that some adjustments must be made from time to time. Who would make such adjustments ? Government, religion ? I think not.


Of course not. The primary agenda of government and religion is to maintain the status quo.

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We have a connection.


Explain, please.

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Now what alot of people do not realize is that this planet is seriously overpopulated. Most have been born into it but I lived in a time when you could by a hundred acre farm for a scant few thousand bucks, which incidentally may have been bought for fifty bucks years before me. What we are experiencing now is the clammor for natural resources, while ignoring the real problem. But that is not the point.

Why do people rape, pillage and plunder ? Simple, to assure (supposedly) their well being and that of their progeny. Why do they steal ? Unless they are a hopeless crackhead they might (especially today) steal to live. That would include stealing to support their progeny would it not ? Well different people have different standards, while the commoner is concerned with how many diapers they can afford, the elite concern themselves with how many toys they can buy. And that means for their kids as well. This situation is a self sustaining circle of materialism.


The perception of scarcity, and the social stratification that are inherent in a monetary-based capitalistic system, both motivate people to behave as they do.


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But back to the point, if indeed everything is related to self preservation, and by extesion the human race, what have they been taught ? True power is the power to survive, even at the cost of another, but hopefully only if necessary. (of course that is not so) But my assertion is that all human activity MIGHT be borne of this one main instinct. Freud might not have been all that far off, the sexual urge is practically indonimable in some, which is not to say they are the best to have reproducing, but nature has it's ways and I cannot judge that.

In the world into which I and most of us were born, this can be hard to figure out. However to separate these issues close study is needed. Why does one person feel the need to have a dozen kids while another has no such desire ?


Perhaps because they both have different perceptions of reality?

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I think society has shaped that. I'll tell you I was sick as hell and made less than 20K last year because of it, but even when I was doing quite well I did not want kids. I only wanted kids because it would hook me up with the Woman of my dreams, and yes, I wanted them only from her. I saw her as a very fit Mother to be and that I would contribute something.

But it all comes from the self preservation instinct. Is that self MY self or OUR self ? Call this hogwash or a dissertation, but it is based on life experience. People are people, some are defective, and for some of those I'll go out of my way to set straight, but then what is that ? After analysis I find that I want people alive in the future who have been exposed to me. There is nothing wrong with that unless I am wrong. But if I am wrong the forces of nature will either quell or kill me correct ?

But what if I am not worthy of survival ? Then all I teach and touch is gone.

I'll find the time tomorrow to elaborate more, but for now this is how it is. Freud was right, Men do what excites them sexually, that is pretty apparent. But is not the sex drive a component of the will to survive ? Or for that matter putting oil or gas in your car, paying the electric bill and a whole bunch of other things. Is it not all part of the survival instinct, or it's just that we were born into a time when things are not determined by simple cause and effect, when there are a plethora of other influences, not excluding some skillful and unlawful acts of those who seek to "socially engineer" us.


I'd say that they have done more that just sought to socially engineer us. They've done quite a remarkable job, actually.

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In short, what gave us orgasms ? Does it really feel that good to risk creating a new life ? I think not. The question here is if we are simply smart animals or something more. This is long enough so I sign off now. But think of WHY. Think beyond Freud, and all the rest. Think in the here and now. Jung was not 100% right and neither am I. But I do want to put my opinion out there for scrutiny. Tear it up.


Why what? Orgasms?

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RE: Thesis part one - 4/5/2010 9:43:45 PM   
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"Why what? Orgasms?"

I assume here you are questioning the use of the italicised word "what". I used that word because the way I see it we have no idea of the nature of the beast or being that may have been responsible directly for our creation - aka God. People argue even about God's gender, but have no clue that God even has a gender. They argue if God is actually YHWH or Jesus, or maybe Mohhamed or even Buddah. Who knows ? But the fact of the English language is that if you are a she or a he or an it, you are still what.

About the connectivity, an overt example is one when the WTC got hit. One little five minute clip instilled the same emotion in so many people, in varying degrees and flavors of course depending on their point of view. I calmly sipped my coffee and went on about my business. Does that indicate that I am not connected ? Perhaps. But I really do believe that there is something more, something as of yet undefined. Moreso why do I even give half a shit about what some idiots are doing wrong halfway across the world ?

That is not to imply that our tax dollars and military might should be used to expose and counteract any forms of society that are unfair, at least in OTHER societies. The opressed and downtrodden in their country are not our problem, and if our government gets involved it is likely to get worse. Doing something on an individual level is your own business.

Which was worse ? Four dead in Ohio or how many at Tienemen(sp) Square ? I can't even spell it nor can I remember exactly which university the national guards killed those kids at in Ohio. These details do not matter. The fact is that one was in our country and one was not. What happens in China is for the Chinese to deal with. What happens here is our problem.

But the horrendous images on the TV impel people to want to spend YOUR and MY money to fix it, using the most crippled tool on the planet. You want to go to war for Women's rights in Arab countries ? Go right ahead. That's the portayal almost. The poor downtrodden, we must save them. Yeah, in most cases we must save them from a fucking dictator our tax dollars installed. But they only get help when he gets uppity with us. Yes the tower of virtue, the beholder of freedom, the light at the end of the tunnel. That's us. Fucking ridiculous.

That's me. You either consider me unpatriotic or more patriotic than the President. There is no gray are here. This is my country, and I don't like what I see. I see the good things too, like not too long ago there is a traffic jam. I finally find out why - people are donating their unused items to the relief effort in Haiti. OK then, I guess that's cool. A genuine outpouring of charity. Gets ya right there ya know ?

But where will these people be when you or I are starving and freezing to death ? The media made Haitians' suffering known to the people, while every day they ignore the plight of millions right here. That's fucking nasty if it means what I think it means. The TV stations had their own collection facilities set up. The one with the most donors would of course have the highest ratings. That means they can up their per minute advertising rates. Prove me wrong.

Matbe it is the way I see things, but then maybe I see them clearly. Is that the kind of people who run the media, most of the major industry and the government ? I don't see it as impossible, in fact I see it as more than probable, given all the facts. What do you think ? Are the rich looking out for our best interests ?

No matter the venue, the attitude is the same. You have to get some insight from the other side to understand. I almost killed a Man for asking my Dad and I to quiet down our heated argument at the local bar. I didn't eat my gun, but I did decide not to do it. I almost got busted with the gun too. Later, thinking about it I realized how wrong that is.

If I'd maintained my old attitude I would probably be a multi millionaire by now, but I just couldn't stay that way. It was wrong. It seems some have no problem with it.

What society is going through now is just another class war, or the continuation of the same old one. Some of the rules have changed. Also the rules are different for them than they are for us. They can do damnear anything they please, but saddle us with rules so be don't become a threat to their power. Wouldn't you ?

But a good metaphor for this time in history might be that the chessboard is too tilted in their favor. Thing is if it goes much farther all the pieces will fall of the board onto the floor. Then it is they who will have a rude awakening.

So much for metaphors. Bottom line is these are nasty people who really coudn't care less about us, or anyone else outside their own little circle of "friends". They will fuck the environment up, as well as the economy and a few other things, thinking they are immune to the effects because they've never suffered the consequences of their actions.

How else would you expect them to behave ?

T

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RE: Thesis part one - 4/5/2010 11:16:23 PM   
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I assume here you are questioning the use of the italicised word "what".


Nope... I just wasn't exactly sure of your specific question.

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I used that word because the way I see it we have no idea of the nature of the beast or being that may have been responsible directly for our creation - aka God. People argue even about God's gender, but have no clue that God even has a gender. They argue if God is actually YHWH or Jesus, or maybe Mohhamed or even Buddah. Who knows ? But the fact of the English language is that if you are a she or a he or an it, you are still what.


The closest perception of God I've ever embraced is that God is everything... the planet, stars, universes, space in between it all, all the energy within, and all that may exist without (beyond our current imagination).

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About the connectivity, an overt example is one when the WTC got hit. One little five minute clip instilled the same emotion in so many people, in varying degrees and flavors of course depending on their point of view. I calmly sipped my coffee and went on about my business. Does that indicate that I am not connected ? Perhaps.


On that level, it seems so.

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But I really do believe that there is something more, something as of yet undefined. Moreso why do I even give half a shit about what some idiots are doing wrong halfway across the world ?


I don't know, I'm just shooting from the hip here, but I'll take a shot at it. Maybe for the same reason that I love animals, but don't want the responsibility of owning any?

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That is not to imply that our tax dollars and military might should be used to expose and counteract any forms of society that are unfair, at least in OTHER societies. The opressed and downtrodden in their country are not our problem, and if our government gets involved it is likely to get worse. Doing something on an individual level is your own business.


In the end, I think "we" and "them" thinking is a detriment to humanity. W've all been indoctrinated to focus upon our differences instead of our likeness.

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Which was worse ? Four dead in Ohio or how many at Tienemen(sp) Square ? I can't even spell it nor can I remember exactly which university the national guards killed those kids at in Ohio.


Kent State. Coincidenty I posted about it earlier tonight elsewhere on these forums.

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These details do not matter. The fact is that one was in our country and one was not. What happens in China is for the Chinese to deal with. What happens here is our problem.


I tend to see things like these as symptoms of bigger problems.

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But the horrendous images on the TV impel people to want to spend YOUR and MY money to fix it, using the most crippled tool on the planet. You want to go to war for Women's rights in Arab countries ? Go right ahead.


Who... me? Nope, I believe that war is the tool of those at the top of the food chain.

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That's the portayal almost. The poor downtrodden, we must save them. Yeah, in most cases we must save them from a fucking dictator our tax dollars installed. But they only get help when he gets uppity with us. Yes the tower of virtue, the beholder of freedom, the light at the end of the tunnel. That's us. Fucking ridiculous.

That's me. You either consider me unpatriotic or more patriotic than the President. There is no gray are here. This is my country, and I don't like what I see. I see the good things too, like not too long ago there is a traffic jam. I finally find out why - people are donating their unused items to the relief effort in Haiti. OK then, I guess that's cool. A genuine outpouring of charity. Gets ya right there ya know ?


What might occur if the masses of peons across the globe all embraced that outpouring simultaneously?

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But where will these people be when you or I are starving and freezing to death ? The media made Haitians' suffering known to the people, while every day they ignore the plight of millions right here. That's fucking nasty if it means what I think it means. The TV stations had their own collection facilities set up. The one with the most donors would of course have the highest ratings. That means they can up their per minute advertising rates. Prove me wrong.


Well... that's the result of the capitalistic structure which most of us embrace.

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Matbe it is the way I see things, but then maybe I see them clearly. Is that the kind of people who run the media, most of the major industry and the government ? I don't see it as impossible, in fact I see it as more than probable, given all the facts. What do you think ? Are the rich looking out for our best interests ?


Only when it helps us to maintain the status quo.

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No matter the venue, the attitude is the same. You have to get some insight from the other side to understand. I almost killed a Man for asking my Dad and I to quiet down our heated argument at the local bar. I didn't eat my gun, but I did decide not to do it. I almost got busted with the gun too. Later, thinking about it I realized how wrong that is.


Knee-jerk responses to emotion often wreaks havoc.

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If I'd maintained my old attitude I would probably be a multi millionaire by now, but I just couldn't stay that way. It was wrong. It seems some have no problem with it.

What society is going through now is just another class war, or the continuation of the same old one. Some of the rules have changed. Also the rules are different for them than they are for us. They can do damnear anything they please, but saddle us with rules so be don't become a threat to their power. Wouldn't you ?


Since I have no desire of dominion over others, I'd say no. But yes, I understand that power of dominion seeks to maintain the status quo.

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But a good metaphor for this time in history might be that the chessboard is too tilted in their favor. Thing is if it goes much farther all the pieces will fall of the board onto the floor. Then it is they who will have a rude awakening.


What I believe you're saying is that it wouldn't serve the parasite well, to kill off its host.

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So much for metaphors. Bottom line is these are nasty people who really coudn't care less about us, or anyone else outside their own little circle of "friends". They will fuck the environment up, as well as the economy and a few other things, thinking they are immune to the effects because they've never suffered the consequences of their actions.

How else would you expect them to behave ?


Exactly how the masses allow them to behave.

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RE: Thesis part one - 4/6/2010 12:29:35 AM   
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"What I believe you're saying is that it wouldn't serve the parasite well, to kill off its host."

Agreed, but they do anyway. Virii for example go into a static mode, much more deeply than hibernation in the absence of a host. They are practically timeless until another host comes along. That viewpoint brings a whole new angle into this. Not that our current parasite can do this, but that probably doesn't matter to them because they think they can take it when their time comes.

"I have no desire of dominion over others"

Well I did at one time. I was pretty good at it as well. It takes a bit of money but money can't buy loyalty, although I can say for sure that loyalty can be bought. It's just not done with money. Details some other time.

"Knee-jerk responses to emotion often wreaks havoc."

I noticed where you put that, after the mention of the bar incident. Let me assure you that I am not proud of my actions that day, except for calling it off. But what I meant to be the main point was that I had the hubris to even consider it, rather than just leaving and calling it a day. Go play with guns and shit at home, leave other people alone. Now, not only am I quiet in a bar the few times I go to one now, I don't appreciate people getting like we were that day. People come here to have a good time, and at that time the owner of the bar would not dare think of throwing us out, which is what I would have done in his place.

"W've all been indoctrinated to focus upon our differences instead of our likeness. "

That's that pesky political correctness again, in a way. It is almost as if the goal is the opposite of what is stated. What I mean by that can be complex so I'll try to keep it short. (don't run off so fast now, I'll really try).

They shove us together when we are not readt for it. I did not say others are not ready for it. Homosexuality comes out the closet before religion can handle it, or the military for that matter. They have forced busing which wrecked the place. They put programs in place, and using reverse discrimination made a whole lot of enemies they didn't need. The people who were racist or even bigoted before, instead of having some hope of finding a way to accept others are now outraged and that set them back a few decades, that is if that was their true goal. I think it wasn't, because the tenet "divide and conquer" is still valid. How better to alienate people from one another than to throw them into an environment where they have to compete all the way down the road ?

THAT is the kind of shit I'm talking about. You got a gang in town ? Just get one of their members alone. No violence or anything of the sort, just give me an hour. Well the gang that runs the world is a bit harder to reach, and I mean that both ways. Even in a room you can't get them into, you are not going to sway them much, if at all. At least with a street gang you can be friendly and make a deal so they don't fuck with you. But there is no dealing with some people, and they want it that way.

And even the manipulators are manipulated. Now that is just getting too deep. I have to work tomor,,, today. But it is true. With them it is done slightly differently, but it is still true. I am somewhat rickety on that but the same principles apply. It's just like using a wrench on a different bolt, or turning up the volume on a more powerful tunebox, pushing the accelerator on a faster car, you get it by now. The approach is different but the offer only differs in magnitude. Same old shit.

Back later. Be well.

T

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RE: Thesis part one - 4/6/2010 11:59:19 AM   
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"What I believe you're saying is that it wouldn't serve the parasite well, to kill off its host."

Agreed, but they do anyway. Virii for example go into a static mode, much more deeply than hibernation in the absence of a host. They are practically timeless until another host comes along. That viewpoint brings a whole new angle into this. Not that our current parasite can do this, but that probably doesn't matter to them because they think they can take it when their time comes.


Take what, their money and power elsewhere? Please explain.

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"I have no desire of dominion over others"

Well I did at one time. I was pretty good at it as well. It takes a bit of money but money can't buy loyalty, although I can say for sure that loyalty can be bought. It's just not done with money. Details some other time.


You write in past tense. Did you realize the error of your ways, then change? Or...?

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"Knee-jerk responses to emotion often wreaks havoc."

I noticed where you put that, after the mention of the bar incident. Let me assure you that I am not proud of my actions that day, except for calling it off. But what I meant to be the main point was that I had the hubris to even consider it, rather than just leaving and calling it a day. Go play with guns and shit at home, leave other people alone. Now, not only am I quiet in a bar the few times I go to one now, I don't appreciate people getting like we were that day. People come here to have a good time, and at that time the owner of the bar would not dare think of throwing us out, which is what I would have done in his place.


I suspect that people are unnaturally tense and under loads of stress/pressure to have a need to regularly blow off steam in non-productive and unhealthy ways.

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"We've all been indoctrinated to focus upon our differences instead of our likeness. "

That's that pesky political correctness again, in a way. It is almost as if the goal is the opposite of what is stated. What I mean by that can be complex so I'll try to keep it short. (don't run off so fast now, I'll really try).

They shove us together when we are not readt for it. I did not say others are not ready for it. Homosexuality comes out the closet before religion can handle it, or the military for that matter. They have forced busing which wrecked the place. They put programs in place, and using reverse discrimination made a whole lot of enemies they didn't need. The people who were racist or even bigoted before, instead of having some hope of finding a way to accept others are now outraged and that set them back a few decades, that is if that was their true goal. I think it wasn't, because the tenet "divide and conquer" is still valid. How better to alienate people from one another than to throw them into an environment where they have to compete all the way down the road ?


So then, your questions become: Is the government intentionally inept, so as to further their agenda of keeping us divided, and therefore conquered? Or are they genuine bumblefucks who simply overcompensated too soon, for decades of prior wrongs, producing an unintended result of further alienating those who were forced to accept change?

Maybe the PTB understood that they couldn't keep a lid on racial discrimination much longer, and didn't want to risk losing control.

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RE: Thesis part one - 4/10/2010 12:03:00 AM   
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"Take what, their money and power elsewhere? Please explain. "

Pretty much. While I maintain that these people are smarter than your average bear, they are not flawless in their thinking. If there is a place for them to go after TSHTF or not isn't the point at this time, the point is that they think there is. They think that their money can insulate them from just about anything. They were taught like I was that money is the root,,,,,,, of everything.

"You write in past tense. Did you realize the error of your ways, then change? Or...? "

Absolutely. Of course there was the eventual realization that if I kept it up I would wind up dead. I remember doing some nasty thing and was asked "So you think you are just going to get away with this ?" to which I replied "Damn right". It took me too long to get my head out of that space. Without the money and connections it would've happened alot sooner. I felt untouchable and immortal. I now see that as a trap.

"I suspect that people are unnaturally tense and under loads of stress/pressure to have a need to regularly blow off steam in non-productive and unhealthy ways"

I think it only one coping method. After a really stressful day any dude can choose among many options. Beat his olady, go to the bar, possibly get into a fight there. Others may get horny, want to burn one or be happy with a couple of beers and a good meal. Others seem to take it out on other drivers on the road. I remember reading about "free floating anger" and I can't believe that people have such disregard for the lives of others and get so pissed off just because someone passes them. They just have to vent somewhere and rather than taking it out on their family and friends they derive enough satisfaction from "winning" on the highway to quell their ire. That is but one example. I learned how to deal with anger in a totally different way, which is simply not to deal with it at all.

By that I mean you can get aggravated by people or circumstance, but the anger is a choice. The aggravation is a seed, just don't water it. I have something I call AQ. Aggravation Quotient, somewhat like IQ. See those seeds can add up sometimes and there are times at work I've said "I'm leaving early, my AQ is through the roof". With aggravation, it seems to subside on it's own once you remove yourself from the source. Anger is a trap, and some find it very difficult to extricate themselves.

"Is the government intentionally inept, so as to further their agenda of keeping us divided, and therefore conquered? Or are they genuine bumblefucks who simply overcompensated too soon, for decades of prior wrongs, producing an unintended result of further alienating those who were forced to accept change? "

That goes back to my idea of how things really work. Did you ever think about just who chooses the candidates ? Sure some public numbers are used, but there is an entity pulling the strings so to speak. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like but actions speak louder than words. Again they have a different thought process than we. I can't really say if the ineptitude is a show designed to hide their malicious intent or if they are chosen from among the actually inept because such people are easier to control. Bush couldn't run a real business to save his life. Obama got involved in humanitarian projects but did HE fund them or simply spend other peoples' money ? And - did either one of them write their own speeches ?

It may be a combination of the two. Lobbyists et alii may be maintaining control also by picking those with skeletons in the closet, the door to which will be opened if they get out of line. Show me a rich person who hasn't done something wrong. But then the control might be much simpler for some, akin to buying a kid alot of new toys. Either way is effective of course and I think both dynamics are in play.

"Maybe the PTB understood that they couldn't keep a lid on racial discrimination much longer, and didn't want to risk losing control"

Possibly. I don't have all the answers but some insight may show if we D.C. Al Fine to the core tenet of divide and conquer. The real PTB see the commoner as an enemy. This is evidenced in law in fact. What would you do with an enemy that outnumbered you a thousandfold at least ? You would do your best to keep them preoccupied with matters other than your actions, and make it appear that you are friendly. And that's all they do, take and take and make themselves look like Mr. Goodie Twoshoes. All day long. Again actions speak louder than words. Everything they do from healthcare to cash for clunkers to incentive checks do no fucking good, but they look good to the sheeple.

But as I said these people, as intelligent as they may be are indeed flawed. Most have no concept of a personal budget at all, yet they control our money, and actually just do as they are told. The way I see it the President is controlled by knowledge of the location of the closetfull of skeletons because of his extreme power. Direct bribes, oops, contributions from lobbyists are not so good here. They simply get setup for a kickass retirement and collect later, either in four or eight years. Senators and congressmen an the other hand have big oil, big pharma and AIPAC to buy them toys. That would be the preferred method because the power of the voter is greater, therefore the method of control used is slightly different.

For example, did you think that Grey Davis really wanted to give US driver's licenses to illegal immigrants ? Anyone with half a brain can see this is politicide. But he tried it anyway. Was he that stupid or influenced ? In that case it backfired which resulted in the Governator. Would that happen to a President ? Alot less likely. You get a President who really knows WTF he is doing and there will be problems.

They messed with Clinton, but didn't get really dirty. His infraction was not so great. I'm almost sure that somewhere along the line someone got his audience in private and showed him some pictures from down home in Arkansas. It doesn't matter if he is guilty of all of which he is accused during his term(s) there, all it matters is that they could make it stick. Actually the allegations are so numerous that many as I believe that he must be guilty of something. But allegations during an election are discredited often, dismissed as a ploy by the opposition. The real PTB let the game play out and figure that they can fix almost anything for "their guy". So if he is guilty and he knows they know it, the King becomes a pawn. If he is not guilty but if they convince him they can prove him guilty regardless the result is the same. For similar reasons I believe there are many innocent people in prison, they became a target. Between having the ins with judges to exclude exhonorting evidence and piling up the charges to induce a plea bargain "they" can lock anyone up they damn well please. The same applies here.

Although some of them are pretty stupid. Take that Blagovitch or whatever his name was. He was almost stupid enough probably to put a senator's seat on eBay ! It's hard to find that kind of stupidity among those who live in the real world. When does a politician fall flat on his face ? Not during a speech, but during a Q & A session. Even then those present as well as the questions to be asked are screened. The bumbling comes from the unexpected.

Sheeple do not realize that everything they see on TV is planned, carefully constructed to shape their opinions in the direction desired by those who contol the media, and constantly petition the government with money or the power to cast them in a negative light. The media has been called the fourth branch of government by some, and I can't argue against that. When many independent media outlets existed we had real news, from somewhere at least. But that has also been taken over. Now all the major media outlets are owned by huge conglomerates. The local newspaper is gone. Local TV stations have little if any actual local programming. And the structure of a news "show" is something to behold. They have it to the point where they can tell you your Mother just died and distract you quickly enough to run down to Walmart before even calling to find out how Dad's doing. You think I'm kidding fine, but I am not. Think of it -

"250,000 dead in BFE due to an accident by the US military, after the commercial break, where to get a great hairdo and new gadgets for Christmas this year, the HOTTEST gifts"

Perhaps that example runs to the extreme, but I wanted to illustrate the point.

And the problem is, people don't even have a clue. They don't realize to make a TV show, such as the news, costs alot of money. Who gives up that money has control over the content. But to those who control, that money is not only a drop in the bucket, but considered a good investment. Must maintain control.

T

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