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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/3/2010 4:22:37 PM   
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It's when they cum that's the problem, other than that, there's not a problem for me. I'd like to know how to suppress the reflex at that moment. It always seems to hit right on the spot. I think that deep throating could solve the problem, though, if they could just do it behind the reflex. Then again, I've read that some guys like it when they make you gag.

I don't have a gag reflex during normal oral, but that moment when they cum can be tricky.  Having your partner's penis as far back in your throat as possible certainly helps.  So does knowing when he is going to, so you can start a swallowing motion right before he does, thereby catching most of it.

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/3/2010 5:19:56 PM   
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the peppermint helps to helps to camouflage the taste of the cum.

The taste is not what makes me gag, so I guess that's out. But thanks for explaining!

me either, not the taste. perhaps as eyesopened said, its a soft palate problem. she also said:

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It is also His responsibility to be "risk aware" and if I ralph during or after oral sex, isn't that just one of those risks one should be aware of?

good point, but it bothers me because tears spring to my eyes, my stomach lurches, and i lose the whole rhythm of the situation. with the force fellatio, that is generally preferred, i find. but in general oral where i'm going for a little showmanship, not so much. thanks for the peppermint tip. i'm going to try it.

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/3/2010 5:35:25 PM   
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It's when they cum that's the problem, other than that, there's not a problem for me. I'd like to know how to suppress the reflex at that moment. It always seems to hit right on the spot. I think that deep throating could solve the problem, though, if they could just do it behind the reflex. Then again, I've read that some guys like it when they make you gag.

Well the young ones...the don't know do they ? Breath deep even holding your breath in for a while and you should not gag.

Once you are used to how that feels while controlling your breath, you'll enjoy very likely...a whole new pleasure.


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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/3/2010 7:19:25 PM   
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Thanks, eyesopned, that was informative and helpful! I appreciate it a lot!

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/4/2010 6:06:41 AM   
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As far as i am concerned some gagging is appreciated

as in gagging for it

also gagging gets the slime production going,  which makes for a smooth mouth fuck

there's nothing wrong with a bit of gagging, just don't let it escalate into puking

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/4/2010 3:00:41 PM   
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I have no gag reflex for a while after I've had a big orgasm--it's like everything in my body is loosened up. My Owner will often have me give him a blow job to start things off, and that usually involves some gagging and choking, which he likes. Then after I've had an orgasm, I go down on him again and his whole cock just slides right down my throat with no gagging at all, which he also likes.

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/10/2010 1:00:56 PM   
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I echo everyone that has said practice and angles. Also, I love using the deep throat sprays that have the numbing effect for special occasions.



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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/10/2010 2:15:37 PM   
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The most important thing that makes you gag during a blow job is using the wrong angle.
Most men's cocks are actually deeper than your mouth is, so when he tries to put in his cock too deep, he'll soon reach the end of your mouth and the beginning of your throat.
The problem than is that your throat does not make a straight line in the same angle as your mouth does, rather they are at an angle to each other in normal positions.
Often kneeling with your head bend down (a common bj position) only increases that angle.
What you have then is a guy trying to force his cock around a curve, which obviously isn't going to happen, so instead, he'll hit the back of your throat, making you gag.

The easiest way to prevent this from happening is by finding a position in which you elongate your neck and align your throat and neck instead of angling them. Look straight up, and you will find that your month and throat are much more a straight line than in a normal position, thus enabling him to follow the natural curve of your body.
And easy way to give bj this way is by laying down on the bed on your back, with your head off the edge, and allowing him to fuck your face. Or on hand and knees on the bed and him standing up besides the bed. Or make sure that you are sitting higher than him, crouch down and do it from that angel (almost like an animal drinking from a pool of water.)

The second thing you have to consider is that your throat is usually in a rest state that prevents objects from entering it, unless you swallow.
This means that if he pushes against this barrier, and you don't swallow, he's again putting pressure on your throat, causing you to gag.
To prevent this from happening, you will literally have to swallow his cock.
Realize that once you swallowed his cock, you are most likely not going to be able to breathe at all, so you need to be prepared for this, and stay relaxed. If you panic, you will gag.

To practice this, find a position that is comfortable for you both, and that creates the right angel between your mouth and throat.
Slowly insert his cock until you feel resistance. Do this at your own pace, not his!!!
Once his cock is at the place of resistance, try to keep it there for a while and just relax.
Once you feel ready, gather up some saliva in your mouth, and while you swallow that, move his cock just a little bit deeper.
If you are successful at swallowing him, just stay like that for a little while, don't move, relax and then take him out.

It is very important that he does NOT move unless under your direction during this whole process. Gag reflex problems are often partly psychological, and him repeatedly making you gag will only make you more nervous, thus tenser, and will not help to fix the problem. The less he moves, the easier it is for you to get used to the sensation.

Practice this often, in a relaxed situation. Do NOT start trying to incorporate this into your normal bj routine until you feel absolutely relaxed and comfortable to have his cock down your throat.
A good way to learn this is to before every bj practice this for about 5 minutes, and then go back to your normal bj routine where you don't take him in as deep. You will know when you are ready to start combining both.

Another neat little trick that can get you used to strange sensations in your throat and master your gag reflex is by using long cooked strings of spaghetti.
Hold the end of the spaghetti string between your fingers, and swallow the other end.
You will now have spaghetti in your throat that is also hanging out your mouth. It's a very strange sensation the first time, so try to relax.
If you are relaxed, start moving the spaghetti around by pulling it out a little and letting it glide back in. You will most likely gag from this at first, but with some practice, you will get used to it.

I wish you good luck and lots of fun at practice time,

ishy
 

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/10/2010 3:10:00 PM   
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ishyB, this is awesome and practical advice! makes so much sense. i'm totally going to practice it, thanks. lol, weekend homework.

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/11/2010 12:30:48 AM   
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I've made a few phone calls.........I am touched by their willingness to volunteer for practice sessions

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/11/2010 2:12:29 AM   
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I believe that clove cigarettes are illegal in some areas of the United States because of a chemical that is in them. This chemical supposedly hinders your gag reflex via a numbing sensation.

"The eugenol in clove smoke causes a numbing of the throat which can diminish the gag reflex in users, leading researchers to recommend caution for individuals with respiratory infections.[11] There have also been a few cases of aspiration pneumonia in individuals with normal respiratory tracts possibly because of the diminished gag reflex. Researchers recommend that people who have an allergy to cloves should avoid kreteks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kretek

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/12/2010 1:40:45 PM   
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My experience has been to team using carrots. They come in various sizes and provides and opportunity to slowly build up the control of gag reflex. Find a bag the right size and start wash it, peel it and start working it. It also give you the opportunity to find the right angle to work with and aids in developing tongue muscles as you learn to get the rhytm down, the angle and the deepth. When your done you have lunch.

I would recommend that you let it warm up to room temperature first

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/14/2010 12:04:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ranja

As far as i am concerned some gagging is appreciated

as in gagging for it

also gagging gets the slime production going,  which makes for a smooth mouth fuck

there's nothing wrong with a bit of gagging, just don't let it escalate into puking


Actually ranja puking may be just what the OP needs to get past the gag reflex. If her Dom doesn't mind the puke, I'd go for it.
Head over the bed makes it go back further but not a good puking position.

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/15/2010 10:40:17 AM   
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My experience has been to team using carrots. They come in various sizes and provides and opportunity to slowly build up the control of gag reflex. Find a bag the right size and start wash it, peel it and start working it. It also give you the opportunity to find the right angle to work with and aids in developing tongue muscles as you learn to get the rhytm down, the angle and the deepth. When your done you have lunch.

I would recommend that you let it warm up to room temperature first


Using carrots imho is dangerous due to the fact that they could break off in your throat causing obstruction of your airway.

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/15/2010 12:19:35 PM   
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Using carrots imho is dangerous due to the fact that they could break off in your throat causing obstruction of your airway.


I second that.
If you are going to use anything to practice, use a realistic penis dildo, slightly smaller than your man's penis.

Also I want to stress: I do NOT recommend using sedative creams when practicing because the whole point of overcoming your gag-reflex by practice is to learn to know the feeling of your own body, and to recognize the signals and sensations it gives you when you are doing it right versus when you are doing it wrong.

Using a sedative cream will cause a lack of sensation that will prevent you from becoming familiar with your own body in the way that you need to overcome this problem.



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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/15/2010 12:25:03 PM   
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Using carrots imho is dangerous due to the fact that they could break off in your throat causing obstruction of your airway.


I second that.
If you are going to use anything to practice, use a realistic penis dildo, slightly smaller than your man's penis.

Also I want to stress: I do NOT recommend using sedative creams when practicing because the whole point of overcoming your gag-reflex by practice is to learn to know the feeling of your own body, and to recognize the signals and sensations it gives you when you are doing it right versus when you are doing it wrong.

Using a sedative cream will cause a lack of sensation that will prevent you from becoming familiar with your own body in the way that you need to overcome this problem.



Those creams also cause the man to have the numbing sensation on his winkie & I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate that either!

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/16/2010 6:56:34 AM   
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It's when they cum that's the problem, other than that, there's not a problem for me. I'd like to know how to suppress the reflex at that moment. It always seems to hit right on the spot. I think that deep throating could solve the problem, though, if they could just do it behind the reflex. Then again, I've read that some guys like it when they make you gag.


Well my man certainly does. I spent years trying to reduce my gag reflex only to end up with a guy that loves me to gag

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/16/2010 9:37:33 AM   
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Master has had me training away my gag reflex.  Aside from delicious practice with him and using some of those techniques with my hubby as well, (though they like different things, wouldn't you know), He also had me practice with red vines.  I had to try 5 times everyday to take the redvine down my throat.  (redvines were partially chosen for sadistic reasons, as I hate them)  I found the ends of them to feel a bit scratchy at first, so I would suck a little on the tip to soften it up.  The nice thing about them is that they are very bendy, so they allowed me to get used to the sensation of something sliding basically all the way down my throat.  Once I could accommodate that,  he had me switch to a silicone dildo.  It was much larger, but still had a bit of give.  Now he has me using my purple feeldoe, which is more the size of his cock.  The next size he was going to switch me to may not be physically possible as there are in fact limits to what any particular body can do! The training has been very successful so far.

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/18/2010 11:01:06 AM   
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Actually puking may be just what the OP needs to get past the gag reflex. If her Dom doesn't mind the puke, I'd go for it.


VP, I have been considering your point as it makes a great deal of sense to me! Thanks for a different perspective!

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RE: Gag Reflex - 4/19/2010 6:55:22 AM   
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My pleasure catize! I hope something works for you & that you have a patient Dom who's willing to help you thru this minor obstacle

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