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4 Economic Realities - 4/3/2010 12:18:42 PM   
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Americans who voted for "change we can believe in," are now beginning to realize the true agenda of the democratic party. Their true agenda is to continue to impoverish America with open borders, free trade, and more government spending, so people will be forced to vote for the party who will hand out more government freebies. They would prefer our country slowly degenerate permanently into 3rd world status, rather than do what is necessary to permanently restore our prosperity for future generations. The bailouts and cash for klunkers programs are prime examples of using taxpayer money to keep the illusion going. Instead they should be dealing with the underlying causes which are free trade, Illegal Immigration, and lack of energy independence due to the democrats blocking all new nuclear power plants over the past 30 years, uncontrolled population growth (due to the 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act, Illegal Immigration, and chain migration), and prohibiting drilling in arbitrarily protected areas. Just ask yourself why Texas, and Oklahoma are not included in these protected areas? Drilling has been going on there for over 100 years, and the streams are still safe for the livestock to drink from. Their logic is obviously flawed.

They also promised you a middle class tax in order to get elected, which is completely out of character for the democratic party, knowing full well that once they possessed control of both houses of Congress, they would get far more money out of you in the long run by blocking tort reform, and passing a multitude of backdoor taxes along with their socialized healthcare."

In order to keep this short, here are 4 economic realities that you should be aware of.

1) You can't spend your way to prosperity when you are already in debt. That's a fact. When 50% of the country is on social security, 25% are on food stamps or other government freebies such as energy assistance, and the other 25% work for the government, then who does that leave to pay the bills? It's impossible for Government employees and senior citizens to pay enough taxes to pay their own salaries, and the people on government freebies aren't going to pay any taxes so who does that leave to pay the their salaries, pensions, and the bills of Congress???

2) Any time the government imposes taxes, fees or penalties on corporations, small businesses, financial institutions, and energy companies; they have no choice but to eventually pass the cost on to the consumer. It works the same way with multi million dollar lawsuit settlements. In fact, if it weren't for lawsuits, a small plane would not cost any more than a car, and healthcare costs and premiums would be cut in half overnight. Isn't it amazing how Obama hands out money to everyone and acts like we should be grateful. My God people, It's our money to begin with. Why don't you give me a million dollars and I'll do some good things too at your expense.

3) When the government creates jobs with more spending, they have to take more and more of your paycheck in taxes or pass the debt on to our children which means they are giving billions in interest payments to wealthy people here and abroad and to other countries, not to mention still owing the debt. When private industry creates jobs, you actually receive a product or a service when they take your money. Now which would you rather have?

4) We will soon be paying half a trillion in interest each year on the national debt. If we declared bankruptcy on the national debt, and only paid back the principle at our discretion, then that would free up $10 billion annually for each state. That would allow each state to pay for their own projects. No more Boston Big Dig's or the Bridge to Nowhere forcing other states to pay for their projects.

Declaring bankruptcy would necessitate cutting congressional spending below tax revenues since no one would buy our debt any more, and shutting down almost all unconstitutional spending programs, and agencies Congress has created, and transferring those employees to the states at half their salary. Just about the only programs that the federal government would maintain are national defense, and social security, and that's only because we need one common currency nationwide, and they have the authority to either print up money or change some numbers in the federal reserve computers to pay for these programs if necessary.

As you can see, our current President and liberal congress are not only mass murderers since they support abortion by authorizing overseas funds and attempting to include it in their health care plan, they also have no common sense when it comes to economic policies. Allen West does, and in my estimation, Allen West is our best chance for removing Obama from office. He should be able to take at least half of the black vote since he is 100% African American. He is a fiery motivational speaker who can get people excited about taking back our country, and he can bring some respect back for African Americans. Become a fan of Allen West and perhaps, just perhaps he may run for President. Remember, it took a Carter to get a Reagan, and if Reagan had been an Independent, 80% of America would have loved him. He won the cold war, and thanks to him, Americans no longer worry about a massive nuclear attack.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/AllenWestforPresident/331333625823

America can no longer continue to vote like it's a high school popularity contest. Spineless politically correct leaders who can't say no to open borders, free trade, and tax and spend policies will destroy this nation. That's a fact.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/3/2010 1:05:41 PM   
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the true agenda of the democratic party. Their true agenda is to continue to impoverish America with open borders, free trade, and more government spending, so people will be forced to vote for the party who will hand out more government freebies.


I read this far, enough to show this was a rant based on mistaken beliefs.

Aside from the stupid mischaracterization of any party as determined to destroy American by whatever the means discussed, you should be aware that free trade is a traditionally Republican issue. Clinton's stance was an exception--the Democrats have historically favored trade unions by policies that benefit domestic production and union jobs.

Nor is this a partisan slam--I also support free trade. It's good economic sense. Ask any economist. Or look at the miserable history of protectionist policies, today or for centuries (it's how China once lost world dominance).

You also are in denial that the last three Republican presidents, Reagan, Bush, and Bush, all presided over rapidly increased spending, deficits, and debt. Only Clinton reigned it in, and Obama has only been in office a year, so time will tell.

Given such badly marred premises only two sentences in, it's fair to say you've no idea what you're talking about. Nor want to. You're rewriting reality to fit your beliefs.


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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/3/2010 1:16:36 PM   
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Can anyone explain to me why conservatives are so long-winded?


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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/3/2010 1:43:01 PM   
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A curious mixture of confabulation, misunderstanding and plain silliness which, if it were not for these factors, might lead one to believe that the little said that is of merit had been cleverly placed at the centre to lend credence to the whole.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/3/2010 1:48:14 PM   
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Can anyone explain to me why conservatives are so long-winded?




This is what cuck wants to spend your money on....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3068356/mpage_2/key_bush%252Cwar/tm.htm#3069664

Cuck loves spending money on war and justifying those expenditures anyway he can....He is another dope that should be avoided at all cost.

No one in his family acknowledges his existence.

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Te fact is that we were attacked on 9/11 and if we fight a defensive war, they will get stronger and stronger, until they are able to use WMD on our major cities. Another little known fact is that the Constitution requires our federal government to protect us from invasion 4 different times, and defend us from attack. Reagan also ended the cold war with his military spending which in the long run will save us billions of dollars for not having to maintain a massive military that would require a larger standing army, and more expensive military equipment in larger numbers. So this war on terrorism is not only justified financially, it is required by the Constitution.




Cuck is an idiot.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 8:48:02 AM   
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This is hilarious. We are $10 trillion in debt, $1.6 trillion budget deficit for this year, $800 billion dollar trade deficit a few years ago (down since recession), more people below the poverty line and on welfare than ever before, 1 in 9 people are on food stamps, 47% of all households don't pay federal income taxes, and liberals still think we are on the right path.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100407/ap_on_bi_ge/us_no_taxes

http://babelishere.webs.com/liberals.html

I might remind you that the only exception to out of control federal spending should be war time. Bush responded to an attack, and we all demanded as such. In fact, most of us thought we should use our own troops to invade Afghanistan in full force, not let the northern alliance fight our battles for us. It was the chicken shit way to invade a nation but it was the cheapest way. I would also remind you that Saddam Hussein wanted the world to think he had WMD and purposely leaked that information. If a democrat with a backbone would have been in office, he would have done the same thing with that information. If the United Nations and Bush Sr. had had more balls to finish the job the first time, the 2nd gulf war would have never happened. This is what happens when you show weakness. The terrorists, insurgents, and rogue nations grow stronger, until they become a nation that supports terrorism and/or try to gain WMD. By the way, everyone acknowledges that Iraq had chemical weapons, therefore they did have WMD. Apparently they either disposed of it or smuggled it out to Syria. The longer you delay action the stronger they get. Bush also wanted to go to Mars, but conservatives said no, we have a war to fight. Hell, if we had known Obama was going to start spending money like a drunk sailor, we would have supported the mars initiative.

Obviously free trade was not a republican idea. It's been around for thousands of years when no one had any idea what an import fee was. We've always had some trade in America since some products simply can't be grown here such as coffee. The democrats bumped up the trade game after World War II as a way to help rebuild war torn Japan, and Germany. I can also prove that free trade has destroyed our economy. Thanks to Reagans economic policies in the 80's, Clinton inherited one of the best economy's we have ever had. It always takes 5 to 10 years for the results of economic policies to become fully apparent. Then Clinton signs NAFTA, and China and look at us 15 years later. Anyone who thinks free trade has benefited this country is either a lunatic or makes their living off of free trade. It's true that Bush Sr., Clinton complied, and Bush Jr. started the NAFTA idea, and they are all traitors. No ifs, ands, or butts about it. I truly believe that Bush Jr. was expecting to be the first North American Union President. All this without the consent of the American people.

This is a thread that exposes both free trade and Illegal Immigration. They only tell you what they want you to hear.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2976543/mpage_1/tm.htm

Democrats under Harry S. Truman also coerced the United Nations into creating the nation of Israel, resettling the Jewish survivors, and then arming them for a revolution. The Palestinians had no idea what was going on until it was too late. Kind of sounds like our Immigration problem, which is the direct result of Ted Kennedy's 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act,  huh? It won't be long when the police will be asking you if you speak Spanish. Instead of what they currently do on cops which is ask them if they speak English. This is democratic leadership folks. At least Republicans believe everyone should speak our language. Why should American citizens be forced to learn a foreign language in their own land if they want a job???

By the way, the recession was caused by both parties forcing lending institutions to loan money to poor people at the drop of a hat. It was also obvious to me, that the middle east wanted us out of Iraq, so they purposely ran up the oil prices a few years before the election to hurt our economy and help elect an islamic sympathizer. If you can't see that you are definitely living in fantasy land.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 12:22:03 PM   
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If you can't see that you are definitely living in fantasy land.



This quote is dripping with irony.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 7:15:48 PM   
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Can anyone explain to me why conservatives are so long-winded?





It's called a filibuster. You'll get a chance to learn much more about it in the months ahead, since you obviously missed it when it was a Dem tool.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 7:17:25 PM   
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You make a good presentation, but it is futile on this site.... The libs on here are typical, know it all pukes that would not know the truth if it fell out of the sky on their heads... Liberals are just not worth the effort of trying to convince....they just need to be thrown out of here...plain and simple... The people of this nation (away from the northeast and west coast and the rust belt) are waking up, and I think libs have had their last political stand for a looooooonnnng time to come. Just concentrate your efforts in your area and forget these turds, they are roadkill anyway.... November is going to stick it so far up their arses as to be permiantely implanted in their warped little socialist minds. Most of them are government teat suckers or wannabe intellecturals that graduated from Marxist U, and now think they know who is buried in tomb of the unknowns.... They are not even worthy of a conversation, much less an effort in making an actual point... To them, its about government, cause the people just can't be trusted to be free....and its going to blow up right in their stupid faces.....

November is coming, and Obama knows nothing will get thru the Senate, so let em rant, bloviate, or shit the bed...WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT THEY DO!!....its all about over, their days are counting down, and then they will be reduced to one of those town fools that carry signs around that everyone ignores anyway.... Teach your kids...fuck these jerks, they aren't worth the effort..... trust me!

And by the way, Newt Gingrich, and the Republican Congress passed the balanced budget that Clinton took credit for when it was shoved down his throat...he opposed it until it passed, and being the pond scum asshole that he was, promptly took credit for it all...typical democrat...a lying fucking skunk!

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 7:20:46 PM   
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OK. Teaching time.

So what's your answer here:


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the true agenda of the democratic party. Their true agenda is to continue to impoverish America with open borders, free trade, and more government spending, so people will be forced to vote for the party who will hand out more government freebies.


I read this far, enough to show this was a rant based on mistaken beliefs.

Aside from the stupid mischaracterization of any party as determined to destroy American by whatever the means discussed, you should be aware that free trade is a traditionally Republican issue. Clinton's stance was an exception--the Democrats have historically favored trade unions by policies that benefit domestic production and union jobs.

Nor is this a partisan slam--I also support free trade. It's good economic sense. Ask any economist. Or look at the miserable history of protectionist policies, today or for centuries (it's how China once lost world dominance).

You also are in denial that the last three Republican presidents, Reagan, Bush, and Bush, all presided over rapidly increased spending, deficits, and debt. Only Clinton reigned it in, and Obama has only been in office a year, so time will tell.

Given such badly marred premises only two sentences in, it's fair to say you've no idea what you're talking about. Nor want to. You're rewriting reality to fit your beliefs.



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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 9:59:24 PM   
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One economic reality. They got money and we don't. Fuck all this mumbo jumbo. You can watch the dance if you like, but you can't join in. You can watch soap operas as well, it would be as informative as watching the news.

Until people see this whole sham for what it is, we are going nowhere. It's all a waste of time until people are really hungry. It will happen. Why didn't your boy save you, the one you elected so evengalically ? Because you believed the bullshit. I hope you enjoy the show while it lasts, because the finale is coming soon. Then when you see who can afford food and who cannot you will realize, albiet too late, tha it is all just a class war. The same one that's been going on since the dawn of civilization.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:08:16 PM   
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Wow two cucks for the price of one.....isn't this site just the best ever

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:13:59 PM   
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Until people see this whole sham for what it is, we are going nowhere.


The most golden nugget in the entire thread.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:22:28 PM   
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Wow two cucks for the price of one.....isn't this site just the best ever


Looks like someone above me is continuing to show a whole lot of wisdom and no arrogance on their part. Also, I see your argument is very well illustrated due to all the facts you show. Boy, I seem to be learning a whole lot from you. I can't wait to be like you when I grow up. 

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Cuck is an idiot.


There's your narcissism again.


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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:23:44 PM   
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Nor is this a partisan slam--I also support free trade. It's good economic sense. Ask any economist. Or look at the miserable history of protectionist policies, today or for centuries (it's how China once lost world dominance).




You mean the same economists that tell us the Federal Reserve is good for our country?

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:25:10 PM   
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[...snipped a bunch of shit...]

It always takes 5 to 10 years for the results of economic policies to become fully apparent.

[...snipped a bunch more shit...]


Does this apply to Obama's economic policies as well?

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:25:20 PM   
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Does this apply to Obama's economic policies as well?


His policies have already been tried and failed.

Soviet Russia
Cuba
Even if you read about the colonies and how they dealt with there economic problems after Queen Ann's War. 

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:32:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WantingToServe11

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Nor is this a partisan slam--I also support free trade. It's good economic sense. Ask any economist. Or look at the miserable history of protectionist policies, today or for centuries (it's how China once lost world dominance).




You mean the same economists that tell us the Federal Reserve is good for our country?


Avoids answering the point, doesn't it.

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:36:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WantingToServe11

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Wow two cucks for the price of one.....isn't this site just the best ever


Looks like someone above me is continuing to show a whole lot of wisdom and no arrogance on their part. Also, I see your argument is very well illustrated due to all the facts you show. Boy, I seem to be learning a whole lot from you. I can't wait to be like you when I grow up. 

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
Cuck is an idiot.


There's your narcissism again.

Look who's back,didn't I run you off one night last week?.....yanno when you were caught being silly and inexperienced?
Listen stick around,I'm always happy to show new kids the ropes.
And if you stop acting like an arrogant little punk....I'll even be nice(well polite anyway)to you

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RE: 4 Economic Realities - 4/8/2010 10:37:22 PM   
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Hmmm..Soviet Russia...you mean the policies of spending themselves into oblivion on building and maintaining the military machine while neglecting to invest in business, infrastructure, education and health care?

I thought that was a Bush policy.

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