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weltall -> I'm new to this (4/4/2010 9:21:39 PM)

Wondering if there are any basics or anything that you guys wished you knew when you were starting and whatnot.  I seem to be having a hard time finding a someone to try stuff with.  Even though I know what I want, I lack experience because I've never really been with someone who wanted to try new things.  Just general advice you guys would give a beginner?




Daddysredhead -> RE: I'm new to this (4/4/2010 9:26:53 PM)

Welcome!

Be safe and get involved with your local community.  If there is a munch or a club nearby, go there and see who you meet and become acquainted with your "neighbors."  Make friends with an experienced Dom and go to as many classes or play topics as you can.  Also, read.  Read books, the threads, and don't let the frenzy of being new get the better of you.

~ Red

(edited because I didn't read the profile first and didn't know this was a male D type posting... oops!)




weltall -> RE: I'm new to this (4/4/2010 9:43:00 PM)

I was actually considering trying to find a dom to watch.  Is this normally allowed or do people frown upon it or something?




DarkSteven -> RE: I'm new to this (4/4/2010 9:47:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: weltall

I was actually considering trying to find a dom to watch.  Is this normally allowed or do people frown upon it or something?


At a munch, play is frowned upon.  At a play party, if you're not actively playing, you're encouraged to watch.

Please understand that there is a difference between being a Top - which is someone in control during a play scene - and a Dom, who is in control during play as well as in everyday vanilla life as well.




SimplyMichael -> RE: I'm new to this (4/4/2010 9:50:08 PM)

Don't take this the wrong way but think about the sort of person who will take a stranger into their house so they can watch them use their partner? What sort of personal agenda do they have going that doing that somehow works for them?

The only time people are eager to "help" male dominants is if they have cute hot partners they figure they can steal from them.

Do yourself a favor, buy a used copy of "screw the roses" and The Wild Side of Sex" off of amazon, find every local group and event within a few hours drive and attend them all. Shut the fuck up and listen, not just to absorb whatever wisdom is there but so you cann learn to spot the idiots too.

You want help? Volunteer, prove yourself drama free, stable, worth having around and someone may take you under their wing. However, you are better of learning from lots of people unless your real goal is just a quck fix of watching people "do" each other and well, best of luck with that.




weltall -> RE: I'm new to this (4/4/2010 9:58:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Don't take this the wrong way but think about the sort of person who will take a stranger into their house so they can watch them use their partner? What sort of personal agenda do they have going that doing that somehow works for them?

The only time people are eager to "help" male dominants is if they have cute hot partners they figure they can steal from them.

Do yourself a favor, buy a used copy of "screw the roses" and The Wild Side of Sex" off of amazon, find every local group and event within a few hours drive and attend them all. Shut the fuck up and listen, not just to absorb whatever wisdom is there but so you cann learn to spot the idiots too.

You want help? Volunteer, prove yourself drama free, stable, worth having around and someone may take you under their wing. However, you are better of learning from lots of people unless your real goal is just a quck fix of watching people "do" each other and well, best of luck with that.



Sorry if I offended you.  I really didn't mean any harm.  Like I said this is something very new for me.  Thanks for the heads up and the advice.  I will look into the books you mentioned and no, I am not just looking for a quick fix as this has been on my mind for ages.




SailingBum -> RE: I'm new to this (4/4/2010 10:49:39 PM)

No profile no answer




DCWoody -> RE: I'm new to this (4/4/2010 11:49:53 PM)

I would say that what I've learnt talking to submissives is far more important in my view than what I've learnt talking to other doms.....and be yourself.




lally2 -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 2:31:32 AM)

 

theres heaps of stuff on here about this, there is a search facility here, but ive never found what i was looking for when ive done it and it can take forever.  who has the time? - so, check out youre local play party groups, go to a club, people are really friendly there and youre bound to meet someone you can chat to about things.

read books, as Michael said, and go to the submissives board and ask some questions there too.  we're usually friendly.

it took me a time before i started real life stuff.  i read loads on the net, came to places like this and asked and went to a munch or two.  until you start to sound confident about youreself and what you can offer youre not going to pull in too many practice dumbies (as opposed to dummies) - who wants to be tied up or flogged by someone who doesnt know what theyre doing.  we might be sub but we're not idiots

its the usual catch 22, but we've all been there, you just have to do youre homework and go from there.

oh and welcome.




jbcurious -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 3:22:03 AM)

- who wants to be tied up or flogged by someone who doesnt know what theyre doing.  we might be sub but we're not idiots

its the usual catch 22, but we've all been there, you just have to do youre homework and go from there.

oh and welcome.
[/quote]

That made me laugh... my first experience with a violet wand was... well lets just say it was "shocking"

Experience is a good thing. [:D]




Smutmonger -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 8:26:40 AM)

I learned by going out to clubs all of the time and watching people play. Did what practice I could at home. The best route "in" is to make some friends and get some charachter reccomendations. Another is to see if anyone is willing to teach you, or have you help with parts of more complicated scenes.

Workshops for things like flogging often have either "stunt bottoms" or clothed people practicing on each other. These are done under the supervision of experienced folks who will stop things if someone starts being a bonehead.[:D]




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 11:40:31 AM)

Weltal,
Finding out about all this stuff and coming here for the first time was extremely intimidating for me a few years ago.  What I did was read these message boards all the time.  I asked questions; posted my thoughts; made friends; went to parties and just soaked it all in.  Personally I think it is much easier to connect with people that you have conversed with here on the message boards first rather than the "other side" (the collarme.com section).    It would be much easier to give you advice if you had some sort of a profile.




realtime62 -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 11:42:45 AM)

Hi

I started where you're at about 4 months ago, and have been taking baby steps since. I'm still very new, but I have found that the best thing you can do is to use the internet (message boards, dating personals) as a springboard to getting out there into the real world, particularly munches and clubs. At clubs watching is heavily encouraged, so although it will be awhile before you get much hands on experience, getting to witness some of this in action (and meeting the people) is hugely helpful in figuring out what you're seeking.

A second tip would be to go slow on trying to find a partner right away. First step would be to meet people and learn, and hopefully make some friends who could help you arrange some light play at the club (supervised). There'll be time to find partners later, right now you need friends.




DWCskitten -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 11:44:48 AM)

i wish someone had told me AT THE START that, just because Someone calls Themselves a Dom, it doesn't mean i have to submit. There has to be a dynamic in place. Also, take your time.

~kitten~




afkarr -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 12:04:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

[Please understand that there is a difference between being a Top - which is someone in control during a play scene - and a Dom, who is in control during play as well as in everyday vanilla life as well.



Not to hijack, but I'm going to: DS, that may be one definition of those terms, and generally the commonly accepted one among lifestylers; but like every term, it's specific to each relationship. There are many of us who aren't in an everyday relationship, but have a steady play partner. Those partners are just as much "Doms" as the 24/7 crowd, just on a different schedule and a different dynamic. I consider a "top" as a casula acquaintence who's only topping for the session and within the bottoms directives; whereas a Dom gets to control within the subs boundaries.

I wouldn't consider my husband merely my baby Daddy; nor would I consider my Dom merely my Top.

Back to the OP; lesson # 1. Dont' let the terminology confuse you. Everybody has their own definitions. The corallary to this is:
lesson # 2: clarify, clarify, clarify. Don't assume one persons understanding of anything is the same as yours. Ask questions, and ask for specifics.




ElectraGlide -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 8:22:56 PM)

Negotiate real good and make sure you know exactly what you are getting into. There seems to be alot of "Do I Have To Do This" type of questions on the boards lately. If they Communicated what they wanted and what was expected of them at length in the first place, they would not be getting run over like a speed bump, that the relationship ended up being.




lovingpet -> RE: I'm new to this (4/5/2010 8:27:20 PM)

~FR~

Okay...Here goes:

The How To's of Living Kinkily AND Happily Ever After

Certainly this post is just a bare bones guideline and simply my own opinion. I do think, however, that taken for what it is, maybe it can be useful. Granted it is more of a listing for newer folks, but I can hope it is handy anyway.

1. Discovering you are kinky does NOT mean you now have to forfeit common sense. The good sense that has gotten someone through life will do them great service now, probably even more so. No one has waived the requirement of life to be responsible and self controlled. Let that little voice within be heard loud and clear and LISTEN.

2. Who you are hasn't changed. What you enjoy and how you express who you are might. Yes, compatibilty still matters and trying to change or changing for someone else those core things that make you you typically does not end well. Discerning these core trait from those things that are simply painful to address or preferences is difficult. Learn yourself well. It may just help when it comes time to try to decide if someone else is right for you.

3. Happiness is a state of being not a result of a situation. Happiness and joy bubble from within. It draws those who also have this deep reserve within. No one can make you happy if you haven't found your own peace and joy. No one can go merrily with a smile on their face all the time, but learning to draw on inner strength will help in troubled times. No one can make you happy. No one can take your joy away either. Some people are healthier for you than others. Find the ones who enlarge your own sense of strength, peace, and happiness. If you haven't found these things within yourself find them first. As has been said many times, you will attract what you are not what you want. If you want a happy, healthy partner, then be one.

4. Trust is a process even if given freely from the start. Each time that trust is rewarded, it grows stronger. Deep trust today is superficial tomorrow. Stepping out on the ledge and risking is scary every single time and no, there is no guarantee that it will go the way you hope. Trust and risk go hand in hand, however, so take a chance now and then.

5. Mistakes happen. Sadly, when any of us decided we were kinky we didn't cease to be human. Slips and trips, struggles with issues, and ghosts from the past are not reasons to doubt and lose faith in each other. It is quiet reassurance of each others' humanity. Love and trust much, forgive abundantly, and keep grudges short. Repeated and flagrant breeches are different. Learn that difference.

6. Real life still goes on. Let's face it, life and its demands aren't going to stop because any of us decide that endless play would be a much better use of our time. The socks and underwear still need a washing. Obligations still stand. And all those pesky bills will still both be made and have to be paid. Be sure to factor in the real life consequences at every turn because they will matter whether we want them to or not. How much does it cost and what must be provided to keep a slave in a cage indefinitely, for example? And for the slave, are you really ready to say good bye to every family member and friend you have ever known? Every day concerns are legitimate and deserve to be considered as such. Choose someone with similiar needs when it comes to such things as privacy, family and friends awareness, workplace requirements, or at least someone who can respect these things. Oh and let's not forget that there is plenty of fun to be had besides all the kinky goodness that has center stage at the moment. If those recreational activities don't overlap some, you may well be very bored in due time.

7. There may not be an emergency, but there certainly are less than pleasant things that can be planned for in advance. First aid and cpr are valuable tools for anyone to have. Know of any and all conditions or history that may impact your relationship as a whole or specific play one is considering. Know contact information for your partner in case a need arises. Have a plan for various situations. Make sure provisions are in place for those things a submissive has not been permitted to provide for him/herself. Submissives, know where and how to use vital documents should the time come they are needed. Let each other know what your wishes are in situations where you will not be able to speak for yourself. This does not just include life or death, but any time communication will be limited for whatever reason.

8. Basic definitions aren't so basic. Don't believe me? Look at the many threads on here that debate the very definition of many of the terms we use regularly. When talking with someone, whether to form a partnership or just to engage in conversation, know what your own personal definition of the terms involved are and know those of the other person. It may be quite an eye opener to discover what vastly different concepts one may be talking about. This is all part of getting to know someone. This is especially important when considering a relationship with someone. So do you really want/want to offer a collar? I guess that depends on what a collar is to each of you and so much more.

9. So, you're kinky and you know it, but who ELSE do you want to know it? This may take a lot of consideration and thought. It may take even more to carry it out. If privacy is a HUGE issue, be prepared to not only have adequate ways of stowing the unmentionables, but also ready explanations for WHEN you lapse. There is nothing worse than stuttering and stammering for an excuse as someone is standing there blasting fifty questions about the latest strange thing they have found laying around. If you plan to be more open, does that include EVERYBODY? If not, then who and how will you ensure they remain unaware? If um's are involved when and to what extent do you want them to know? How will you ensure this as well? Plan to be out and proud? Are you prepared to accept ALL the consequences, good and bad? How will you mitigate them?

10. HAVE FUN!!!!!!! For goodness sakes, that's what this was supposed to be about on some level wasn't it???? Didn't it look like.... FUN????? Then for crying out loud, quit being all serious, scared, and uptight and go for it!!!!!

lovingpet




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