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RE: Cuckolding - 4/12/2010 5:02:20 AM

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MsKitty has promised to post a follow up from Her date this past weekend. The experience was enlightening for the both of us.

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RE: Cuckolding - 4/12/2010 4:49:50 PM

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From a very masculine standpoint and from extensive experience I wager to say cuckold conjures mental pictures totally removed from the mindset itself. Assuming the male cuckold is a micro penis performing services from a desperate, weak sniveling impotent standpoint or exclusive product of humiliation and/or degradation is often the perception and in the female cuckold, much the same mindset all too often prevails and that reveals there is far more unknown than known about what is going on beneath the cognitive level.

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RE: Cuckolding - 4/12/2010 4:56:49 PM

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Unfortunately, many insist on trying to push a woman into seeing other men, men she may have no interest in, just so he can experience his kink. Those who are willing to accept it on the terms of the lady are much more likely to be succesful in finding such a relationship.

Unfortunately, too, this is what I have experienced, that it's all about the guy's demands for his kink [especially as a bottom for creampies and other 'forced' bi- behaviour].
And especially with all the STD's abounding: I haven't had a good straight mmF threesome in years: dammit!!

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RE: Cuckolding - 4/12/2010 5:12:55 PM

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That brings up a question.... When seeking a secondary sexual partner...what's the etiquette in asking about a full screening? Most individuals may only get checked for HIV or Hep. But there's SO many STDs on the rise right now that I feel a full screening would be important. Syphilis is one of the big ones and people often forget that herpes and warts can be contracted even when there's no out break. I'm researching condom alternatives that have more coverage area because of those specific issues.

Anybody have some advice?

Maybe I should post this as a separate topic.

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RE: Cuckolding - 4/14/2010 3:58:54 PM

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Two responses: I suppose there are two sides (or more) to cuckolding. There is the man who wants to force his partner into having sex with another man (voluntary lowering of status with partner). Then there is the independent woman who seeks her own pleasure, with the knowledge (in general) and consent of the partner (overtly or tacit).

I prefer the latter arrangement. It is possible, I've been in several relationships like that. I think it's something that takes a lot of maturity on the part of both parties.

As far as jealousy goes, the male should be able to deal with it. You just have to ask yourself, am I better off with this woman, or being alone.

On the second matter, I suppose like renting an apartment one could just have an application form, with a form to go get a blood test. For players who like blood play, that shouldn't matter.

Silent infections are certainly possible. One should get tested periodically if one is sexually active, in any case. You may be monogamous, but your partner may not be. One hopes she uses protection, but in the heat of the moment, things can get out of hand.

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RE: Cuckolding - 4/14/2010 4:09:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: trueshadow

Two responses: I suppose there are two sides (or more) to cuckolding. There is the man who wants to force his partner into having sex with another man (voluntary lowering of status with partner). Then there is the independent woman who seeks her own pleasure, with the knowledge (in general) and consent of the partner (overtly or tacit).

I prefer the latter arrangement. It is possible, I've been in several relationships like that. I think it's something that takes a lot of maturity on the part of both parties.

As far as jealousy goes, the male should be able to deal with it. You just have to ask yourself, am I better off with this woman, or being alone.

On the second matter, I suppose like renting an apartment one could just have an application form, with a form to go get a blood test. For players who like blood play, that shouldn't matter.

Silent infections are certainly possible. One should get tested periodically if one is sexually active, in any case. You may be monogamous, but your partner may not be. One hopes she uses protection, but in the heat of the moment, things can get out of hand.

My concern isn't whether MsKitty will use protection. My concern is what kind? In another thread, I've stated that we're looking at complete latex sheaths as opposed to condoms. Though certainly more expensive, the sheaths offer full coverage and minimize contact STDs.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/23/2010 1:54:34 PM

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Sharing my (future) wife, in our postmodern days of (possibly fatal) STDs, is dangerous, for us BOTH.

But what passionate man doesn't want a desirable wife, whom ALL OTHER MEN envy?

But with Hotwifing, typically follows FemDom, which means humiliation, denial, etc.

Is a Hot Wife worth that intense frustration?

I dunno, maybe, maybe not...

Your milage may vary.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/24/2010 9:39:21 AM

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I've been following this with interest, as occasionally the issue comes up with the clean up boy as a cuckold, he's been pretty much dedicated to Me and may have posessive feelings that play out in his head.
Funny this then, logging back in to a random new message after going to KTV with classmates here in China:
"hello, my wife likes to cuck me with other females. Would you be interested?"
Honestly people - does that even count as cuckolding?
Aside from the entire continent between us so it's not even a question of being in the neighborhood, how does the concept that a major male fantasy = seeing one's female having sex with another female = become the mental/emotional quandry that is cuckolding?

(.. Please let Me know if this is not correct for this thread, thanks)

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/24/2010 4:36:49 PM

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Here I was thinking there was the promised update to the thread from the OP or her boi that brought this thread back. Not one that someone pulled it up from three months ago for just some random comment.

Always pulling for you, OP. As always, My best wishes for both of you.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/24/2010 7:40:14 PM

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I'll bite. I am Ms. Mlicious' cuckold slave. I have blogged about her infidelity many times, but here is a quick synopsis. She has a young slave who she sometimes takes into her bed. She has also acquired a new "bull". She banged him in my bed. I made the bed with new sheets and bought condoms and placed them near the bed. Ms. Mlicious has plans to see him often.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/26/2010 3:45:18 PM

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The update:

MsKitty and I have decided to table the cuckolding potential of the relationship.

We discovered some differences in communicating expectations to one another during Beyond Leather and ultimately decided that we DEFINITELY need to work out the clear communication issue before moving forward.

While this issue has been indefinitely tabled, we've revisited the potential of expanding the relationship to include cuckolding since and have determined appropriate milestones in measuring our progress in moving toward proper communication during such situations.

For those who know us personally, you're welcome to write myself or MsKitty, here, on fetlife, personal emails, or by just giving us a call if you're interested in continuing this conversation in greater detail.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/26/2010 7:58:53 PM

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You know I am always willing to give you any insight/experiences. I know that not everyone can handle cuckolding. And on top of that, the whole gender thing makes things a little different. But if I can be of any help, I will.
At this point, I love Ms. Mlicious' cuckolding more than anything else. Good thing, because it is something that makes her very happy.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/27/2010 9:30:28 AM

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Kal,

I try to get Her to call MsM to talk about the difficulty with the communication around expectations but She's still feeling this stuff out. She wants to have a more solid foundation before She reaches out more.

You know me, I'll call or text you anytime I'm feeling funny or have questions. So far I'm just trying to focus on Her comfort and navigate the new level of communication needed around this kind of thing.

I won't have any free time this weekend but I'll shoot you a text or call you sometime soon to talk details. I'm thinkin you might have some pointers for me in this ;-)

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/27/2010 10:14:48 AM

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Does not the typical male libido CLEARLY SUBORDINATE the typical female sex drive?

Sure, any woman can "have sex" for hours, while men who are unfamiliar with the successful techniques commonly practiced in male orgasm control, typically cum, and lose the ability to regain an erection for some length of time, commonly related to age.

Lying there and getting "f---ed" for hours may involve some measure of endurance, but how can that capacity be rightly compared to the role of the GIVER, not that RECEIVER?

Who’s doing the work? Is it easier to receive or to give?

In my personal research, the Hot Wife genre of relationships are typically based upon the male contributing significant, or complete, financial support to the Hot Wife, in exchange for her living the Hot Wife lifestyle, and (occasionally) including the cuck, at her , or the Bull’s, level of comfort, or discretion.

Hot Wifing differs from prostitution in that in prostitution, men pay for sex, but in Hot Wifing, the cuckold pays to typically be excluded from sex.

Jinxypie & her cuckold hubby have made an income out of "the Lifestyle".

Marilyn Monroe said it well:

“Beauty is to men as money is to women.”

Or how about the timeless proverb that goes, “Women give sex in order to get love, and men give love in order to get sex”?

In simplest terms – that which I tend to best understand - FemDom, cuckoldry & Hot Wifing are merely an exchange of value. See the aforementioned Marilyn Monroe quotation for details.

I treasure the notion of our genders, and their SPECIFIC relationship to sexuality. A STRONG MAN is a BULL, but a weak man is an inadequate cuckold. What about femininity? Is a Hot Wife not a woman? Is a slut not a female? Is a sexually inadequate, or poorly endowed, women just a little girl?

What man doesn’t desire to enjoy an attractive woman as his wife? Are looks/age/race/social status that important to women? I don’t know. Let’s ask Anna Nichole Smith.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/27/2010 10:23:50 AM

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I find your posts maddening and very difficult to follow. You seem to be referring to things everyone should know about, but clearly I don't...

hmmm... perhaps its just me... but if you're trying to get a point across, that has to do with this post... you might want to be a bit more clear and succinct...

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/27/2010 6:50:16 PM

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The stereotype that cuckolds are always weak and impotent is not true. My Mistress does not cuckold me because I am inadequate or weak (I'm not). She does it because she enjoys variety, and she enjoys exercising the power of a blatant double standard.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/27/2010 9:27:20 PM

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I'm with speller... POWER....

Hello A/all,

I was the lover of a married woman a few years ago. While she was not a Domme, she was able to project a womanly power that I responded to from the first time we met. I was never able to put my finger on it; but, she was able to keep me in her thrall for our entire time together.

I wasn't the cuckold. I was one of her playthings. Never the less there was an exchange of power between us.

Respectfully,
Mike
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RE: Cuckolding - 7/28/2010 3:43:31 AM

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Your posts are a bit `of a non event..' cuckolding is a shared event.

If that ever changes for the better , for you,.. let me know..

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/28/2010 7:26:10 AM

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Ms. Allie:

Per the Collarme.com Forum Guidlines:

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But, thank you for correcting me.

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RE: Cuckolding - 7/28/2010 7:32:33 AM

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