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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/5/2010 4:06:37 PM   
DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


No, its not a hijack. Read the OP and think about the things Brian claimed there, then read about how Liberals terrorized elderly conventioneers at the GOP convention in 2008, and see if you can't figure out how this directly addresses the topic.

Here, I'll even help you out a little bit. Brian is claiming that quote,

quote:

It is disingenuous for mainstream purveyors of incendiary far-right rhetoric to dismiss groups such as the Hutaree by saying that there are “crazies on both sides.” This simply is not true. 
 
Admitting that a generation ago the “political violence” came from the far left, Robinson says these days, “it is hard to identify any kind of leftist threat.” 


End quote.

Now think about it, really hard and see if you can figure out on your own without any help how my post about the tyranical Liberal bastards from 2008 is directly on topic.

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Actually that is the hijack. The topic was that right wing violence had at its root the right wingers who encourage violence.

Your picture shows someone being arrested. As to the rest, just as you and Breitbart deny that the tea baggers used racial epithets because no one got it on tape, there is no evidence of this supposed violence.


No Sanity, when you made this claim:
quote:

The spitting and slur allegations are lies as far as anyone knows. There is no proof of them.

and other equivalent statements you were trying to use Breitbart's demand that someone present video of the event as the sole standard of proof that it occured. So from now on I will apply that same standard of proof to your claims, no matter what they may be. IOW put up a video or I'll simply call you a liar and deny your claim. Or you could acknowledge that a multiple eyewitnesses is proof enough of an event without some evidence to the contrary and acknowledge that teh tea partyers did indeed use disgusting racial epithets when yelling at a respected black Congressman.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/5/2010 7:54:21 PM   
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So domken to clarify, you are saying there are official officers of the law, and witness swearing under penalty of Perjury, that these racial slurs and spitting occured? Because that is standard that sanity is using. Law officials acting in official capacity state his claims are true. What similar evidence do you offer?

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/5/2010 9:20:46 PM   
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So domken to clarify, you are saying there are official officers of the law, and witness swearing under penalty of Perjury, that these racial slurs and spitting occured? Because that is standard that sanity is using. Law officials acting in official capacity state his claims are true. What similar evidence do you offer?

Are you having trouble reading again? Breitbart came up with the standard and Sanity endorsed it. I'm simply applying it to Sanity.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 1:52:12 AM   
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The standard of there being some sort of actuall evidence? Breitbart didn't make that up.

I missed where you quoted anything from Breitbart or anyone about a "sole standard". I see you making up a standard, and pulling part of a quote from a while ago out of context, in an attempt to make a point. Thanks for teaching that trick to realone.


as to the claim of leftist violence in 2008, people were arrested and convicted. There is real actuall evidence.

as opposed to whatever you are talking about. Some claim of slurs that were not caught on film, at a media event that was filmed from start to finish.


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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 8:10:21 AM   
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as opposed to whatever you are talking about. Some claim of slurs that were not caught on film, at a media event that was filmed from start to finish.

Show me the entire video please. Every second.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 8:32:01 AM   
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People are ganging up on the right leaning noncomformist?
Poor baby.



This original poster is a pathetic little wanker hiding in his mommys basement, posting this garbage with marching orders from Moveon.org or whatever other garbage heap of socialist crap, and trying to create what is not there.... Who really is trying to shut down any descending opinion?...who rails against anyone who disagrees with Obamaism?.... who is all in panic mode? The funny thing is the real heart of soul of this republic is outside the media center dumps that harbor these stooges, and the more they yell, the more the people smell a rat..... They are like a skunk caught in quicksand, the more they struggle against the landslide poll indications of their demise, the deeper they sink..... keep it up little Marxist pukes.... you are digging deeper and deeper into the hole you so richly deserve.... November comes, and their is NOT ONE FUCKING THING you can do about it! There is NOTHING that will get thru the Senate...NOTHING!...... this is their Waterloo, and its going to be such a pleasure come election night to see these turds faces when the results will be psunamic in washing this shit out of power for decades to come.... Freedom is going to triumph over any propaganda campaign you lame assholes can fabricate...even with little wankers like this turd can formulate.... its just drivel, and will not register on an electorate that sees right thru them and Obama's bullshit..... this is all coming to an end....deal with it turds!

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 8:33:30 AM   
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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 9:38:26 AM   
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November comes, and their is NOT ONE FUCKING THING you can do about it! ....deal with it turds!


I have the ability to stop November from coming.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 9:40:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cuckyman


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

People are ganging up on the right leaning noncomformist?
Poor baby.



This original poster is a pathetic little wanker hiding in his mommys basement, posting this garbage with marching orders from Moveon.org or whatever other garbage heap of socialist crap, and trying to create what is not there.... Who really is trying to shut down any descending opinion?...who rails against anyone who disagrees with Obamaism?.... who is all in panic mode? The funny thing is the real heart of soul of this republic is outside the media center dumps that harbor these stooges, and the more they yell, the more the people smell a rat..... They are like a skunk caught in quicksand, the more they struggle against the landslide poll indications of their demise, the deeper they sink..... keep it up little Marxist pukes.... you are digging deeper and deeper into the hole you so richly deserve.... November comes, and their is NOT ONE FUCKING THING you can do about it! There is NOTHING that will get thru the Senate...NOTHING!...... this is their Waterloo, and its going to be such a pleasure come election night to see these turds faces when the results will be psunamic in washing this shit out of power for decades to come.... Freedom is going to triumph over any propaganda campaign you lame assholes can fabricate...even with little wankers like this turd can formulate.... its just drivel, and will not register on an electorate that sees right thru them and Obama's bullshit..... this is all coming to an end....deal with it turds!
I must have been misinformed....I thought Health Care was their(or Obama's at least) Waterloo...


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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 2:56:03 PM   
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You've finally gone around the bend! No proof is needed to prove what you demand held true, and since there are those who require evidence before believing then actual proof of another event can't possibly serve as proof because theres no proof of your event.



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Are you having trouble reading again? Breitbart came up with the standard and Sanity endorsed it. I'm simply applying it to Sanity.


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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 3:07:49 PM   
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I've so missed you!

Can I have a hug?




Or a death threat involving 'gators?

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 3:22:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


You've finally gone around the bend! No proof is needed to prove what you demand held true, and since there are those who require evidence before believing then actual proof of another event can't possibly serve as proof because theres no proof of your event.



quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Are you having trouble reading again? Breitbart came up with the standard and Sanity endorsed it. I'm simply applying it to Sanity.


You seem to be having mor trouble than usual constructing english language statements that make any sense. It appears that what you're saying is you cannot meet your own standard for proof that an event occured and now are trying to claim it doesn't apply. That's not how the real world works. If you want to set a standard that others must meet then you must meet the same standard or be quite obviously a hypocrite and a liar.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 4:24:56 PM   
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So dom ken what is your standard for accepting claims, say for example regarding the existance of God? That is a subject you have pontificated at length on. and you have been quite clear, in the absence of any positive verifyible evidence, you reject the claim. So obviously you are being a massive hypocrite, by accepting the claims of racist slurs with absolutly no verifyable evidence.

Right?

And why are you still telling the lie that Breitbart or Sanity or anyone set up a "sole standard" of evidence??? We have established that you made that up.....

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 4:35:13 PM   
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What is right-wing domestic terrorism?

Attacks committed by people who favor individual freedoms over governmental regulation are classified as right-wing domestic terrorism. Such extremists may be motivated by issues of race, such as the Ku Klux Klan, or other issues, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. According to the FBI, right-wing terrorists often take “racist and racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory” platforms. Far-right movements often blend political rhetoric with racial undertones, despite recent attempts to reach a broader audience by eliminating racial language. Authorities do not categorize people with extreme right-wing political ideals as threats unless the group they are affiliated with demonstrates a real potential for violence.
Are right-wing domestic terrorists still active?

Yes. Attacks by left-wing or special-interest groups were the most common until the 1990s, when right-wing terrorists began staging more attacks aimed at civilians. The FBI says that the Oklahoma City bombing was carried out by far-right extremists who feared increased UN involvement in domestic policies, opposed stricter gun-control laws, and were enraged by “several confrontations between members of right-wing groups and law enforcement officers at Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge, Idaho.” A right-wing extremist, Eric Robert Rudolph, was also responsible for the 1996 Olympics bombing in Atlanta that killed two and injured more than one hundred. The decline of right-wing terrorist attacks since 2001 could be attributed to extremists’ anger shifting toward foreign entities and away from the U.S. government, the Los Angeles Times reported in March 2008.

The FBI reports that eight of the fourteen terrorist acts prevented between 2002 and 2005 were planned by right-wing groups. The others ranged from an anarchist plan to bomb a Coast Guard station, a prison-gang attempt to attack military and Jewish targets around Los Angeles, and a few people who attempted, individually, to establish ties with al-Qaeda.


Full Article

Regardless of what cucky may want to believe, right wing domestic terrorist groups and right wing hate groups are at the top of the FBI lists lately.

Granted, Left wing environmentalist and Animal rights groups are also on the list.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 5:45:59 PM   
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So dom ken what is your standard for accepting claims, say for example regarding the existance of God? That is a subject you have pontificated at length on. and you have been quite clear, in the absence of any positive verifyible evidence, you reject the claim. So obviously you are being a massive hypocrite, by accepting the claims of racist slurs with absolutly no verifyable evidence.

Right?

And why are you still telling the lie that Breitbart or Sanity or anyone set up a "sole standard" of evidence??? We have established that you made that up.....

You've established nothing. You have to present evidence to establish something and you haven't.

Actually I, as most people, have more than one standard of proof for different things. With multiple eyewitnesses attesting to the use of racial slurs and no contrary evidence I tentavively accept that they occured. I reject Breitbart and Sanity's demands that all eyewitness accounts include video.

For more extraordinary claims, the existence of a supernatural entity who poofed the entire universe into existence is IMO an extraordinary claim, I require much stronger proof.

But I'm not the subject here. I'm not the one who called a widely respected civil rights leader a liar. I'm not the one that said that multiple eyewitnesses were lying because none had a video camera rolling at that precise moment.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 5:59:54 PM   
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Correct, and you have provided exactly zero evidence of Anyone claiming a "sole Standard", because it never happened. Not sanity,not Brietbart, not anyone. It is you lying. Which we are all pretty used to.


And Like you said, "If you want to set a standard that others must meet then you must meet the same standard or be quite obviously a hypocrite and a liar. "


and what is with your lie of "no contrary evidence". Plenty of witnessess there said there were no slurs. Exact same level of evidence you are accepting. Only difference is which side you want to believe.











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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 8:56:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Correct, and you have provided exactly zero evidence of Anyone claiming a "sole Standard", because it never happened. Not sanity,not Brietbart, not anyone. It is you lying. Which we are all pretty used to.

Sanity and Breitbart applied the standard not me. Your beef seems to be with them. That you don't like the light it paints them in is between you and them. Please stop acting like I've somehow harmed you in this matter which has absolutely nothing to do with you.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 9:20:28 PM   
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Dude.  Srsly.  You need some new material.  You sound like a bot.  C'mon, tweak up the code and give us a change of pace.
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ORIGINAL: cuckyman


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

People are ganging up on the right leaning noncomformist?
Poor baby.



This original poster is a pathetic little wanker hiding in his mommys basement, posting this garbage with marching orders from Moveon.org or whatever other garbage heap of socialist crap, and trying to create what is not there.... Who really is trying to shut down any descending opinion?...who rails against anyone who disagrees with Obamaism?.... who is all in panic mode? The funny thing is the real heart of soul of this republic is outside the media center dumps that harbor these stooges, and the more they yell, the more the people smell a rat..... They are like a skunk caught in quicksand, the more they struggle against the landslide poll indications of their demise, the deeper they sink..... keep it up little Marxist pukes.... you are digging deeper and deeper into the hole you so richly deserve.... November comes, and their is NOT ONE FUCKING THING you can do about it! There is NOTHING that will get thru the Senate...NOTHING!...... this is their Waterloo, and its going to be such a pleasure come election night to see these turds faces when the results will be psunamic in washing this shit out of power for decades to come.... Freedom is going to triumph over any propaganda campaign you lame assholes can fabricate...even with little wankers like this turd can formulate.... its just drivel, and will not register on an electorate that sees right thru them and Obama's bullshit..... this is all coming to an end....deal with it turds!

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/6/2010 10:05:36 PM   
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This original poster is a pathetic little wanker hiding in his mommys basement, posting this garbage with marching orders from Moveon.org or whatever other garbage heap of socialist crap, and trying to create what is not there.... Who really is trying to shut down any descending opinion?...who rails against anyone who disagrees with Obamaism?.... who is all in panic mode? The funny thing is the real heart of soul of this republic is outside the media center dumps that harbor these stooges, and the more they yell, the more the people smell a rat..... They are like a skunk caught in quicksand, the more they struggle against the landslide poll indications of their demise, the deeper they sink..... keep it up little Marxist pukes.... you are digging deeper and deeper into the hole you so richly deserve.... November comes, and their is NOT ONE FUCKING THING you can do about it! There is NOTHING that will get thru the Senate...NOTHING!...... this is their Waterloo, and its going to be such a pleasure come election night to see these turds faces when the results will be psunamic in washing this shit out of power for decades to come.... Freedom is going to triumph over any propaganda campaign you lame assholes can fabricate...even with little wankers like this turd can formulate.... its just drivel, and will not register on an electorate that sees right thru them and Obama's bullshit..... this is all coming to an end....deal with it turds!


I thought the health care bill was the Waterloo.

Oh well, we still have the gators to look forward to.

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RE: Political Violence Has A Right-Wing Father - The Er... - 4/7/2010 12:39:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Correct, and you have provided exactly zero evidence of Anyone claiming a "sole Standard", because it never happened. Not sanity,not Brietbart, not anyone. It is you lying. Which we are all pretty used to.

Sanity and Breitbart applied the standard not me. Your beef seems to be with them. That you don't like the light it paints them in is between you and them. Please stop acting like I've somehow harmed you in this matter which has absolutely nothing to do with you.




Harmed??? you really have gone over the deep end.

again, why do you insist in repeating the lie that Sanity and Brietbart advocate this "sole Standard"? You sound like realone

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