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RE: Update on Prom - 4/6/2010 11:48:56 PM   
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The parents are teaching their children that its perfectly fine to discriminate against someone as long as you have the money to do so.


It's not even about who has money. They are teaching their kids that you can invite and not invite whoever you want as long as you are footing the bill, regardless of it's chips and dip or champagne and a house band.

The reaction of those around them will teach them to alter their guest lists.


So the next time you have a gathering, AquaticSub, I demand an invite. The fact that you're organizing and paying for the party is irrelevant because I want to come. Don't invite me? Enjoy the assault from the ACLU.

**** I apologize AquaticSub - The way this was written, it sounded as if you had a problem with this idea. ****

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/6/2010 11:50:12 PM   
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Did I say I had a problem with it?


You didn't.

Do you?

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/6/2010 11:52:39 PM   
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Hey man,  I got rights too! I paid attention in school! I excerise my right to have a private party and I'm only inviting those who are left-handed. All you frikkin' righties... go fuck yourselves!

Seriously, I don't agree with the morals here. But a private party is that - private. I don't have to like it nor does anybody else for it to be both legal and moral in terms of "my money, I can pay for what I want". Regardless of what anyone else says, if I'm paying the bill, I don't invite certain people because I don't like them. Just as I wouldn't invite a hardcore Republican to a party I was paying for unless I was somehow very close to them, I wouldn't expect an invitation to a party from them.

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/6/2010 11:54:10 PM   
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I'm not subtle.

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/6/2010 11:56:51 PM   
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Background....

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McMillen went to the Itawamba Agricultural High School prom at the Fulton Country Club, but she was one of the few to attend the event. McMillen said she arrived at the dance an hour-and-a-half after it began and stayed for about 30 minutes. She said she saw six other students and several school officials while she was there.

Meanwhile, many more Itawamba AHS students went to an event held at the community center in Evergreen, another community in Itawamba County. McMillen said she knew about that event but that when she asked another student if she was invited, the student told her, “the prom is at the country club.”

“I took that as no,” McMillen said. “If I wasn’t wanted there, I wasn’t going to go.”


What the Judge ruled...

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At a hearing on a preliminary injunction filed by the ACLU, Senior U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson ruled that the district had violated McMillen’s First Amendment rights but that it shouldn’t be forced to sponsor a prom since a group of parents had already agreed to hold an event that would be “open to all IAHS students.”


What followed....

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Last Monday night, those parents announced they would no longer host that prom. On Tuesday afternoon, school district attorney Michele Floyd said a private prom would be held at the Fulton Country Club, although the exact sponsorship of that event remains a mystery.

Kristy Bennett, legal director for the ACLU of Mississippi, said her organization was still gathering details about what happened Friday night to determine whether they would ask Davidson for sanctions.

At the least, Bennett said the details about Friday’s prom would be used in the organization’s damages suit against the district, which is still being developed.

“We are disappointed at the sparse attendance, and we’re looking further into the situation,” Bennett said.

“Whatever we find will be brought to the court’s attention, whether it is in the damages trial, or whatever. There will still be a trial on the merits. The case didn’t end in the preliminary hearing.”


http://nems360.com/view/full_story/6946554/article-UPDATE--McMillen-attends-sparse-Itawamba-prom?instance=home_news_1st_left

Now, this can be read however the reader desires. What i see is a school that found its back against the wall between the legal system and the parents. And the school will be screwed.

ETA the link

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/7/2010 12:00:45 AM   
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Looks to me like there was too much confusion to really figure out what happened. Parents were backing it and pulled out, possibly because of all the media and mess, and someone threw a private party who is trying to keep their own hide from being flame-broiled - whatever their motivations and prejudices were in only inviting some people and not others.

Personally, I wish the school had just given her the ok to attend with her girlfriend and avoided this entire mess that has affected the entire student body.

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/7/2010 12:04:42 AM   
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And on that i do agree with you. This was a silly case that has exploded into something major.

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/7/2010 12:08:02 AM   
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I honestly want to know what they thought the worst-case situation would have been if they had allowed her to attend with her girlfriend. If they felt the two girls were in danger, then they clearly failed to prepare their students for the real world where they will encounter gays and lesbians. If they wanted to avoid disruption, I'd say canceling prom is about the dumbest thing they could have done. Right or wrong, my friends and I eagerly looked forward to prom and would have been devastated at it's cancellation.

Now it seems to be a snowball of good intentions, bad results.

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RE: Update on Prom - 4/7/2010 6:49:36 AM   
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The parents are teaching their children that its perfectly fine to discriminate against someone


the school started the discrimination and the parents kept it going.




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RE: Update on Prom - 4/7/2010 6:55:57 AM   
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I honestly want to know what they thought the worst-case situation would have been if they had allowed her to attend with her girlfriend. If they felt the two girls were in danger, then they clearly failed to prepare their students for the real world where they will encounter gays and lesbians. If they wanted to avoid disruption, I'd say canceling prom is about the dumbest thing they could have done. Right or wrong, my friends and I eagerly looked forward to prom and would have been devastated at it's cancellation.

Now it seems to be a snowball of good intentions, bad results.


I agree these parents and this school are not properly preparing the graduating class for reality. College is a time of exploration and freedom. Do they honestly believe this one couple will be the last gay couple these kids associate with?



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