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Thadius -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 9:51:51 PM)
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A decade too young?
Domken, his profile states age 37. The world is a big place...
Fopr the school integration fights in Chicago? He's claiming there was significant violence around integration around 1980 which is when he would have been starting school. not 1966 when MLK marched here for integration of the schools but 14 years later.
Actually I googled it...the riots I was thinking of were in 68, which is 41 years ago...not sure if that's what Thadius was referring to though.
I was talking about the protests during the late 70s and early 80s. Here's a story from '81 talking about protests over integration...
You said you were kept out of school and I quote "because of the violence" not because of some people holding their kids out of school because they didn't want to be transferred. You exagerated and we both know it.
And there was violence, plenty of it, and it rolled over into the schools. That is the one thing you have to respond to? Talk about cherry picking. So, you still didn't answer the question. What neighborhood are you from Ken? Lifelong resident of Chicago?
You also claimed that all of the protests and segretation fights were in the 60's, guess you were wrong on that count too? I do love how you keep trying to jump in with both feet. I suggest you are either ignorant of what was going on in those neighborhoods and who was condoning what, or you are trying to ignore it in an attempt to call me a liar.
Either way, you are full of shit.
Bullshit. You made claims that you grew up in Bridgeport around 1965 not 1980. You made claims that you were kept out of school due to school violence assocaited with desegregation. your evidence was an article that indicated that no violence had occured and that kids being kept out of school was the protest not the result.
I've answered where I've lived in the city.
But I'm still waiting for you to respond to the meat of my original statement. You claimed you learned as a child to not judge people by who they associated with but you have repeatedly done so on this forum. I'm still awaiting a response.
Evening Ken,
For the last time, when did I say anything about me and the 60's? That dog don't hunt, and again you completely ignore what was going on in those neighborhoods even into the '90s. The violence was quite real, and so is everything that I posted in the reply that started this current discussion. I am glad you missed it, but am sorry to tarnish your picture of that beautiful city.
I suppose that you are referring to my mentioning of who our President used to hang out with and that kind of thing? For one I have met those folks, and the then community organizer, further I worked with and for some of the folks I am referring to. Oh and of course you never use associatons to say whatever you wish about folks. I suppose you are going to deny Blago having his brother hold court at the Billy Goat as well? Or other promininent powers in Chicago politics (especially from my old neighborhood) holding court in various bars and social clubs? While the pretty flower boxes and new row housing may make the city look much nicer, there are still plenty of skeletons in the closet.
Here's one more fun story for ya about Bridgeport, ya know that place that is all sunshine and lollypops.
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New York Times story...
Chicago Blacks Hold Bias Protest
By DIRK JOHNSON, Special to The New York Times
Published: October 22, 1989
CHICAGO, Oct. 21— In a protest against bigotry and police brutality, more than 500 people, most of them blacks, marched without incident today through the city's Bridgeport neighborhood where two 14-year-old black boys were chased and beaten by a gang of whites this summer.
On the night of Aug. 15, two white police officers had left the boys in the neighborhood, which has a history of attacks on blacks.
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For many blacks, Bridgeport is synonymous with racial intolerance. While few, if any, blacks live in the heart of Bridgeport, the neighborhood has become more ethnically diverse in recent years, with an influx of Asian and Hispanic residents. Unfair Target, Some Charge
But residents of this working-class neighborhood of modest bungalows and discount stores say Bridgeport has been unfairly singled out because it is the home neighborhood of Mayor Richard M. Daley. And they complain that they cannot walk safely through black neighborhoods nearby. The marchers, watched by more than 200 police officers, went past Mayor Daley's house.
Indeed, organizers of the protest said they had received calls from Bridgeport residents who threatened to march through black neighborhoods.
I would also recommend this read of the Lenard Clark story from a paper outside of Chicago. Chicago Neighborhood Reveals an Ugly Side
And with that this fundie, neo-con, racist, teabagger will say good night.
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