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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/4/2006 6:26:12 PM

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I have only reached subspace once when I was playing with my dom. It felt great and was very intense like you are floating on a cloud. I dont know why I dont reach it more often. He must be doing something wrong if I dont get there more often. Does anyone have any ideas on why I dont reach subspace often? Just wondering what people think.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/4/2006 7:53:56 PM

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I never said it was his fault. Was just wondering if it was something he did wrong.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/4/2006 7:56:37 PM

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Maybe I am doing something wrong since I dont get there all that often. It could also br that he does not like me to be in subspace that often. I dont see why he would not want me to be its a great feeling and its amazing.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/4/2006 8:21:08 PM

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From what I've been reading on these forums in the many discussion of subspace it appers to me there are two pretty distinctly different experiences that are both called "subspace" by those who experience it. The first is a sort of focused almost hypnotic state, often induced by a tone of voice, a look in they eyes, a ritual etc... It seems to be a somewhat dissociated, dreamy, spaced out, but still able to generally respond and take instructions, communicate etc...

The other one is much more extreme, often resulting in being nearly catatonic or appearing to be unconscious. It's often described as being completely unaware of one's surroundings, unable to respond or communicate in any way. It's usually induced by extreme pain or a very very intense scene.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/4/2006 9:48:11 PM

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Ok, I don't want to cheapen it by being analytical and clinical...

You're not and you couldn't. No worries there.

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The way "sub space" has been described sounds very much, to me, like a mild dissociative state. Only, one that is enjoyed and encouraged by the people who are going through it, instead of being a debilitating disorder. I could easily be wrong that "sub space" is "a consensual/enjoyable dissociative state", but that's really what it sounds like to me.

It very much is, yes. For all that I went on and on up there (and that was the second, shorter version of my description. The boards ate my first response.), boiled down to its bare essentials, you're right. It is /can be healthy and healing in this form but it isn't different enough from what I've seen, heard of and experienced to say that it's not a dissociative state.

On a somewhat related note, I wonder how many submissives identify as adrenaline junkies in the non-kinky areas of their lives.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/5/2006 12:48:46 AM

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i never understood how pain could put me into subspace either until i was flogged, spanked, caned, ect. in front of others. It sends me into subspace in record time. If i could have my way, i would be in subspace constantly. It is very freeing, relaxing, and enjoyable for me. It is not directly arousing but more floaty. i have websites on it if you wish to read about it.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/10/2006 8:09:23 AM

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For me space is so intense. i am drugged, my body is on fire. i am lethargic and numb, and guilt ridden. i am aware of how it dulls my senses and reactions, and i want to be nothing but there for Him. While i do thouroughly enjoy it, it is overwhelming, and i do not seek it out. i quite enjoy being kept on the edge, because it keeps me at peek preformance. i also love being permitted to slip away at the end of a scene by Him. its kind of like a balancing act to me. it takes me a while to come out from it though, a good 20 mins.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/10/2006 2:49:14 PM

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sub space is the place i love to be.. it doesn't always come in a scene either.. sometimes my Master can say a few words and i begin to enter my sub space. Much like this journey i imagine it's different for everyone.

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/10/2006 3:09:55 PM

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Your brain, on the other hand, goes through something else under extreme trauma. In extreme causes, you brain sort of shuts off, so that you don't have to deal with what you're going through. You "go to your happy place". In the most extreme causes, you go catatonic: complete shut down, the lights are on, but nobody is home. In less extreme cases, you go into a dissociative state. That means you're conscious and mobile, but you're not _fully_ aware of what's happening to you. It's like you're not really there.

That would explain it then!. . . thanks for posting that.
I guess I'm weird, but I have two things I go through- 'subspace' & 'flying' because the two are very different for me.
In subspace, things get all fuzzy, like i'm drunk . . . a very euphoric state. However, when i 'fly', i'm past that state to the point that i'm not aware of my surroundings, am unable to call a safeword, go limp, and don't remember much of anything. Call me REALLY crazy, but most of the time all i'm able to remember is a feeling like running really fast. Ever watch an animal running in a movie and all you can see is like tunnel vision with everything peripheral flying by??? - that 'sort of' explains how i feel. . . i love that feeling <smiles>

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RE: Question about "sub space" - 4/10/2006 10:26:07 PM

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So, I guess my question to all of you subs is: What does sub space mean to you, what gets you there, and do you prefer to be in that state? prefer to be kept riding the edge? or prefer to stay out of that state? If you're in that state, what do you prefer to have done to you (stepping up the pain? relaxing the pain a little? switching from pain to pleasure? etc.)?

To me, subspace is a very warm, inviting, floaty, dreamy place that I have been to several times, led there by my dear Master. I have gotten there via different routes, via sensual/sexual means, and also by heavy flogging mixed with simultaneous pain and pleasure stimuli.

When I am there, I just want to stay there. If I get deep and spacey, I find that I am very non-verbal. I am practically unintelligible, and can barely mumble. The most I have been able to say that Master has been able to understand is "my Daddy." He is always careful with me, but He is very careful with me in this state. If I am there via sensual means, then He just lets me stay there until I return to my senses. When I feel like I am coherent again, I usually smile groggily and say, "I'm back, Daddy." He always kisses me and asks if I had a good trip. It's a nice way to rejoin Him.

I hope that this has been helpful to you in some way. I have enjoyed sharing this lovely thing with you.

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