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domiguy -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/8/2010 9:35:04 PM)

I too get a decent amount of mail from the posters out here. t's always nice, some even send pics.

Whoda thunk that subtee's cunt actually looks larger than aileen's? Very odd, indeed!




willowspirit -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/8/2010 11:18:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Phoenix73Sir
When you receive a message on CM, what is it that either attracts you or repulses you from replying to it?  do you prefer long and full of details or short and polite?


Middling length... Not too short, not too long.... Oh,... Duh !! We are talking about EMAIL lengths... [;)]


If someone sends me an email that asks me for the same information which is clearly stated in my profile, I tend to delay answering his, while I answer other more well-thought-out emails first.

And if someone asks all sorts of questions about me, OR compliments me on my "wonderful" profile, yet there is nothing of substance in his profile (a missing or shallow essay section), I tend to be very cautious and slow to reply.
After all, I'm the one who may be putting my safety and well-being... maybe even my very life in his hands. He BETTER be forthcoming with information about himself!


I see this D/s thingy as a relationship between two "G/givers" --- Not between a Taker and a giver. If I can feel within the first email that He is a Giver, I am triggered to be the same to Him. <--- This is a huge plus !

Ultra brief and shallow first emails are often reflections of the writers.
When someone sends a email simply saying "hello", I reply "hi"
When sent a "how r u?", I reply "Ok, & u?"
I "out-brief" them; hoping-beyond-hope that they'll eventually get a clue.

A Dominant who uses all lower case letters, horrible spelling and grammar, or txting abbrvs., turns me off.
Other turn-offs are people who obviously have the terms Dominant, "Master" and Top confused (or assume that a bottom and a submissive woman are exactly the same).
Or someone calls me a "slave"... If I am a "slave" that would mean that I am owned already... geesh!

"LordMasterDomin-ATEs"??? Dominate is a verb. Dominant is a noun.




jbcurious -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/9/2010 12:42:11 AM)

In reality most of the stuff we've posted is useless...except for a few points of etiquette, the best thing you can do is to be yourself.

No, you probably won't get as many responses...but the responses you do get will be from people who are interested in you. Eventually, who we are comes out, why waste time trying to fit the mold that you think others want?




CaringandReal -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/9/2010 5:52:22 AM)

There are so many different things I could list, let me see if I can prioritize them:

--Saying something about why they wrote me/non-form letter.

--Creativity/flirty/funny/intriguing--showing something that inidcates there's still life and a spark in in their bodies, minds, and emotions. The majority of people who write me on collarme are my age or older. Reading their emails often reminds me of walking on Mt. St. Helens, a few months after the 1980 eruption. Perfectly fine emails, say all the officially "right" things a dom is supposed to say, except that they're dead, dead, dead. :(

--I usually read the profile before I open the email and if the profile is very negative or shows clear incompatibilities, I won't read the email. I think this is a minority behavior, but still, it may help to consider your profile your "first email." Also, look at your profile the way others will first see it: search for it in the list. A lot of people paste a profile from another site into the collarme text box. Often what they paste is full of formatting codes, making their profile total gibberish. For some reason, you can see this gibberish in list view (when you search for your own name) but not in full view (when you see the larger photo and the interest list). But if I see that nonsense code in list view, it strikes me as sloppy, and I seldom click the profile.

--Someone who, without being particularly explicit, gives me a hint that they are capable of controlling me. This is a subtle art: it takes brains, experience, perception/understanding of others/and a desire to affect a particular person to pull it off. Someone who can do this tells me they are someone pretty special.

--Coming on strong sexually is not a problem for me if everything else in the email works. Quite frankly, the majority of individuals who write me are far too timid and staid, and their avoiding any mention of sex at all adds to my impression that they are dead--or at very least boring and sexless. I think this sort of attitude is inflenced by age: so aim your tone at the age group you are most interested in. Younger submissives on average seem to prefer the non-sexual, intellectual approach, whereas women my age tend to be more concerned that the plumbing still works, so it can be good to give us a sign! :p

Turn-offs:
--Heavy criticism, cynicism, bitterness in the profile. It doesn't matter how nice the actual email is. Those profiles are deal-breakers for me. I auto-block/delete those types, because I assume they're going to turn all their anger and resentment onto me if I should become a focus and because letting it all hang out on one's profile signifies lack of control: someone's compulsion to emotionally act out has taken over.

--Non-bdsm Fetishists, slightly disguised as dominants. Foot lovers, rubberists, stockings-n-heels guys, ticklers, etc. Having a preference for these things is fine. But with many writers, it's clear this is their major sexual interest, and the dominance is just tacked on in order to get this core sexual fetish better met. Also, in the same class, are the "Sado Extermist Every Second With Me Will Be Total Misery For You" types. Don't get me wrong, I like a sadist as much as the next submissive (maybe even more than the next submissive) but the one-dimmensionality of that approach is not exactly a big draw. :/





divi -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/9/2010 5:57:25 AM)

Usually after I get a message worth my response I take a peek at their profile and wham there pops up a pic of their junk . I then delete the message. This happens a lot.




DarkSteven -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/9/2010 7:01:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DWCskitten

~Fast Reply~

"I respond to all emails that are not fakes. Especially if I know them from the forums."
That's because You're sweet, Steven. Oops. Is sweetness a Domly trait?? [;)]


Damn right it is, bitch.  Now kneel before me.  [:)]




HisSub1213 -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/9/2010 10:13:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968


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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: DCWoody

Attaching pics of your cock works great, if you don't get enough responses, you obviously need to work out more, take the pics at even more extreme angles, and send MOAR messages. Of course, sending so many messages makes them hard to personalise, but if you just use 'bitch' where you'd usually put their name, they love it.


Drawing a smiley face on the tip of your cock shot is a foolproof method.


Writing San Francisco on the side works even better. [:)]


But don't the words "San Francisco" have to be visible when its NOT hard? Kind of like the old joke about the guy who had WTJHAND tattooed on his cock. The long and the short of it (no pun intended) was that it REALLY said Welcome To Jamaca Have A Nice Day. [sm=couch.gif]




DesireToBeSissy -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/10/2010 3:36:43 PM)

As someone who is fairly new to this site and being the one who contacts moreso than actually receives first contact emails, I find it a bit frustrating. I'm more of the type that thinks about what to say before sending the email and I guess to some, because of the length/attention to detail within the greeting, it gets taken under the assumption that I have the same contact message I send to everyone...and that is certainly frustrating. Thank all of you for the insight on the likes/dislikes, it's helpful. ;-)




thelustfulsub -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/10/2010 8:46:30 PM)

I pay as much attention to a message as I assume the writer did. Short, misspelled messages either get deleted or an equally short reply depending on my mood. I try to answer every sincere message I get even if I think I won't be interested. To get my interest they have to appear to have read my profile. Find something to comment on or ask a question about. You don't have to write an essay, just a few sentences that show me who you are and why my profile caught your interest and what you think we might have in common.




MISTRESSREE -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/11/2010 9:45:34 PM)

Hmmn well when I first joined I tried to answer all e-mails I recieved with a short, respectful thanks but no thanks...
As time went on I grew weary of this approach because even though I politely said I was not interested they always replied back still trying to engage Me in conversation...
Then I had to be more forceful with My replies....
No matter how politely phrased most don't take rejection well and take it personally when that is hardly the case...
I get replies from subs in their 20's when My profile specifically states I am looking for someone in the 40-50 year old age range....
I think what drives me absolutely batshit is the obvious copy and paste, to every Domme, e-mails I get!!!!
Unfortunately, I would have to say; easily half, if not more of My mail is of this caliber....
I now do not bother to answer to these....
If someone takes the time to read My journal to the end.....Ohhh a rather time-consuming thing. I have written what to use as a salutation there.....
A letter that uses this I know instantlly comes from someone who has shown some time and dedication to My Profile and that speaks volumes to Me.....That one short salutation....It garners My attention tobesure.....
I look for someone with obvious intelligence as well as that is what I am interested and love!!!!
I don't need a book on a first contact but the longer the e-mail gives Me more information about you and a true sense of your personality.......
The longer the better as far as I'm concerned because it means you really are interested in making a impression...
Yesss, I will of course go to your profile and check it out...
That is usually the make it or break it point to be honest.....
If your profile has no text in the body or personal info part????
Also no pic...
It means you are not sincere....
Probably married and looking for wanker material....
No pic makes Me leary as well....
You do not have to have a face shot on your profile but you do need a picture from neck down....
Hmmmn that is a whole nother thread as I posted a question on ask a mistress their thoughts on ass pictures on a first contact profile pic?????
I know it must be frustrating for Male subs to send letter after letter and not get a reply.....
It is equally as frustrating for Dommes too....
I have gotten sooo very many disgusting first contact e-mails I can'e even tell you!!!!
Easily I reply to only 10% of My e-mails now....
You have to realize I get over a hundred a week....
Yesss I am demanding of certain attributes.....
If I answer your mail it is because you are deserving of it....
You have garnered My attention....
What you do with it afterwards is the fun part!!! *Wicked Smile*




ShadowsLap -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/11/2010 11:18:03 PM)

Thank you for all the insightful information.  Is it all common sense?  Oh yes - without a doubt - it's common sense.  Why, then, do people fail so miserably at connecting in this medium?  And I'm the first to admit I'm a failure at meeting people in this place.  But, I'm really picky about how I'm approached.

One poster hinted at it:  If you know yourself and have an idea of how the type of person you're looking for will respond, then you have everything you need to make meaningful contact.  But this involves work:  READ their profile, then re-read yours and make sure the profiles match up in some way that gives you a chance to connect with the person you want to meet.

Remember this:  you're trying to make a "connection" and anything you say that is one-sided will probably get you deleted without a reply.  If you're desperate to make some contact, try the WRD tactic.  Write the message, Read the message, then Delete the message.  Once you have the desperation out of your system, go back and write the message you want to send ... then send it!

And for crying out loud, try to meet the other person's mind first!  Not everyone out here is a doormat looking for someone to take care of them in exchange for the ability to use their face to scrub the dirt off their boots.  I don't care what you do to my body, if you don't engage my mind, the rest of TTWD doesn't matter.

The effort you put into initial contact emails with be returned the same way.  Put in even a little effort, it will show and you may actually find someone you can't live without.   SL




TheLadyIsADomme -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/12/2010 8:09:59 PM)

What I also find amazing is that CM has a feature which tells you whether someone has viewed your profile. So, when I receive an email from someone, I already know if they have looked at my profile. There is an immediate discounting in my mind as to their sincerity, if someone does not look at my profile.




Phoenix73Sir -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 3:42:00 AM)

And just to throw the whole damn thing into confusion. The girl I am talking to now in a very serious way, the initial message I wrote was simply "I really like your corset. It makes you look REALLY HOT!" and left it at that.

Go figure huh?




CeriseNin -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 3:45:05 AM)

Perhaps because you complimented her choice of corset and how it looked on her, instead of just a simple: U R HOT!




lusciouslips19 -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 3:56:31 AM)

I agree with everyone about some expressing who they are, their character and intelligence etc. But my ex BF wrote on another site. "Its 2 in the morning and Im tired so when I looked at your profile all I could think was "yum".

I was toast from that. Sense of humor slays me. I told him to get some rest as I am worth the words.




choccywoc -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 5:52:04 AM)

Usually the ones from Nigeria.




caveboy -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 10:43:20 PM)

If you have to ask this question, I would question your motives and experience. Clearly, you are a poser




DarkSteven -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 10:46:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: caveboy

If you have to ask this question, I would question your motives and experience. Clearly, you are a poser


Huh?

You're kinda new around here yourself, fella.  You might want to withhold judgment until you've learned your way around a bit.





caveboy -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 11:03:57 PM)

New around "here" yes. Not new to lifestyle. (what was that you said about "passing judgement"?) The question is clearly bogus. Constructing correspondence to illicit a response from a sub is contrived. This is one of the golden rules that the OP doesn't understand (do you?) You missed my point...fella




WyldHrt -> RE: first contact emails... what really gets you. (4/13/2010 11:33:23 PM)

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The question is clearly bogus. Constructing correspondence to illicit a response from a sub is contrived. This is one of the golden rules that the OP doesn't understand

Thank you for saving us from such ignorance, caveboy! Please do share these "golden rules" with the masses.





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