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MsStarlett -> Chasing the Whip Tease (4/9/2010 4:08:25 AM)

Ladies, do you ever get frustrated by those guys who are always telling you "You can beat me as long and as hard as you like.  But not right now.  I'll catch you later."  Then they always seem to have work or some other obligation that keeps the leather from hitting the flesh?




MistressOfGa -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/9/2010 4:20:43 AM)

lol I don't get frustrated, I just move on to one who means it. A whip tease? Yes, I have run across them, but they can't seem to put their ass where their mouth is <s>

MoGa




GraciousLady -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/9/2010 6:21:17 AM)

This behaviour is not limited to whip teasers.




Tantriqu -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/9/2010 8:21:06 AM)

Sigh, yes, the last two men I've had contact with on this site were just that. 'Oooh, yes, I'll do anything and you can do anything to me,' and then when a date was set, something, and not my nipples, came up. One said someone was coming to work on his house, the other had a car accident. Plausible but still suspicious. I told each of them another cancellation would result in dismissal; both grovelled, apologised and subsequently cancelled again. Strike two and out, and not in a good way.

Temporarily discouraging, of course, but the gains of finding a good man out-weigh the irk of being duped despite promising communication and meeting, and having to start alllllll over again.




Andalusite -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/9/2010 8:32:11 AM)

I haven't had anyone flake on me for play, but I've generally only played with people I know beforehand. I haven't had anyone flake on me for meeting up for coffee or dinner or whatever, from this site or the other one I used previously. Once I was already dating someone, occasionally something comes up and we've had to reschedule playtime, but it wasn't a deliberate tease on their part.

I do tend to think of the "you can do anything/I have no limits" sort of guys as being primarily Internet-fantasists though. Anyone who focuses on play in a way that makes me feel like they'll do it with anyone, where we don't yet have a connection as a person, tended to wind up dropped as a possibility.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/9/2010 8:57:40 AM)

Tell me about it, Ms Starlett!! I just moooooove on to new meat. If they are too busy, then so am I!




LadyPact -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/9/2010 10:47:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

I haven't had anyone flake on me for play, but I've generally only played with people I know beforehand. I haven't had anyone flake on me for meeting up for coffee or dinner or whatever, from this site or the other one I used previously. Once I was already dating someone, occasionally something comes up and we've had to reschedule playtime, but it wasn't a deliberate tease on their part.

I do tend to think of the "you can do anything/I have no limits" sort of guys as being primarily Internet-fantasists though. Anyone who focuses on play in a way that makes me feel like they'll do it with anyone, where we don't yet have a connection as a person, tended to wind up dropped as a possibility.

I have to say that I lean somewhat with Anda on this one.  I don't know why I've had luck in this department.  It may be that I really don't invest too much in anyone that hasn't already shown Me that their ass can cash the checks that their mouth has written.  Most of My casual play encounters are event or club scenarios where both of us are already present and accounted for.

I will, however, admit to being on the other side of this.  I have 'bumped' people on the dance card when I've agreed to play with more people on a given evening than I've really had time for.




beej -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/10/2010 9:39:32 AM)

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'Oooh, yes, I'll do anything and you can do anything to me,' and then when a date was set, something, and not my nipples, came up.


LMFAO. i haven't had any teases yet, but i think that's because as others said, i turn my attention elsewhere as soon as i've made a couple of overtures to get together that have met with any kind of vague or uncertain answer. i'm very sensitive to early indicators like if you ask the man, "when are you free for dinner?" and he replies, "well, i'm busy on these days until these times." DUDE, didn't i just ask when you were free? that gets a red flag right away.




Voodali -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/10/2010 11:51:11 AM)

     I've had several boys flake out on me.  One even peeled out in his car when I told him to follow me to a location where what he had been begging for would occur. Pretty funny, actually, given that with military training, he could probably have kicked my 5 foot ass. Its a good idea to have more than one boy in your little black book, so when one flakes, you can lavish your attention on the one who doesn't.
    My mentor is both a  dominant and a masochistic bottom.  When I came to him with this problem, he explained to me that it is very common, and that he used to flake sometimes too before meeting a sadist he really really wanted to play with.  Apparently his brain was awash with conflicting chemicals, craving the endorphins from a sadomasochistic exchange, but also flooded with adrenaline, urging him to flee from danger.  He explained that the two urges were duking it out, and in order for him to make his appointment, the desire for endorphins had to win.  He also claims that once such a boy has bailed, 9 times out of 10, he will contact you again within six months.  He told me that his now good and devoted boy actually flaked out on him for their first coffee date.
   Given this new insight, I am a little more willing to hear what a boy has to say if he returns to me after flaking.  Previously I would just ignore any attempts to contact me after that.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/10/2010 1:25:09 PM)

Since I usually date men before we move towards intimacy, this doesn't happen. I have met flaky men while dating however, and I think there are parallels.

Bottom line, when this happens, I just figure that he's just not that into me and I move on. It's really a liberating feeling.

- LA




slvemike4u -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/10/2010 3:23:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

Ladies, do you ever get frustrated by those guys who are always telling you "You can beat me as long and as hard as you like.  But not right now.  I'll catch you later."  Then they always seem to have work or some other obligation that keeps the leather from hitting the flesh?
Haven't read the rest of the thread...yet.But my first instant initial reaction...is that You are talking to and interacting with the wrong group of masochist.
I would go so far as to say they are not actually "masochist's" if they make a habit of dodging that which defines a masochist !




MsStarlett -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 4:56:57 AM)

I'm not normally one for naming names, but it doesn't seem like anyone who keeps up with this forum was at the convention the other week... so I'll blab.  *giggle*  It's actually kind of a funny story.  First, let me explain that I only do one Lifestyle convention per year.  To my knowledge, there are no BDSM clubs in the area and the local community didn't exactly accept me with open arms.  Therefore, my opportunities for casual play are very limited.

That being said, my first two trips to Frolicon were unsuccessful at finding a play partner.  That was mostly my own fault, I was trying to hard and looking in the wrong places.  Plus I normally had my scowling husband in tow.  Not the best way to meet a new toy.

Last year, I met a man on the convention staff on the last day of the show.  He was not exactly 'my type' but he was friendly and expressed to me that "I do not feel pain.  You can beat me all you want."  Of course, by that time, the dungeon was closed and I was making my last rounds before leaving.  We exchanged email addies and went on our merry way.  We never contacted each other over the year.

I ran into Mr. "Can't feel Pain" on Friday night of the convention.  We spoke, he confirmed that he still wanted to play, but was 'On duty' at the time, he would catch me later.  Needless to say, we bumped into each other several times through the convention.  He was very happy to be cuddly with me while we chatted with others in the hallways.  He indicated that we could go down to the dungeon and I could "relax him" and then go up to his room where he could "relax me."  I told him flat out that there would only be beatings.  No sex.  No sexual contact.  No Queening.  No alone time in a room.  Period.  After that, he was always busy running an errand or 'On duty' and just couldn't find any time to run down to the dungeon.  But I did SEE and HEAR him using the exact same lines on my girlfriend who was a first timer at the convention.   HORNY Whip Tease!  Little did he know that SHE was even LESS likely to give him the 'after care' he was looking for.  I pulled her aside and filled her in.  We both ignored him after that.

While that one was still being all wishy washy, my eye fell on another staffer.  A big burly guy with tattoos and sweet, almost childlike eyes.  I always did like big men, so this one had me way more excited than any of the other prospects I had seen.  He seemed to have a desire to play, but said that any Domme who wanted to play had to be 'OKed' by his friend... but we never seemed to find the time to get that meeting arranged. 

By Saturday night, I was a little frustrated by this cat and mouse game that my two staffers were playing.  "Wanting to play, but always an excuse."   I don't remember exactly how it happened, but a younger, less desirable skinny boy fell into my lap.  He was new and looking to experiment.  He was a touch annoying and bratty but pliable.  I asked him if wanted to go down to the dungeon and he said "Sure!  Let's go."  Done & Done.  He said he wanted to try electrical play, so we circled back up to the room for my violet wand, found a spot in the dungeon by a wall and he happily stripped down and jumped on a table. 

My aforementioned girlfriend later told me that SHE had tried to work with the same boy on Friday night and had rejected him for being annoying, talking to much and topping from the bottom.  I actually enjoyed working the boy over as he seemed very eager to try a bit of everything in the bag.  Understanding that he was new and didn't know his limits, I thought he did very well.  He took quite a beating along the way.  He didn't exactly call a safe word, but he did comment when things were getting a bit more than he could handle.  He didn't even complain when I opened up a few small wounds where she and I both had 'wrap around' trouble on his left shoulder.  Skinny boys are so frail!  After he had had about enough beatings, he was sitting up having a breather when my Burly prospect walked up.  I was totally willing to say "Your done!  Get lost." to the skinny boy and strap down the big 'un for some REAL fun!

I was actually petting and stroking the youth when the staffer approached.  I have no idea if he actually saw me working on the boy earlier as I don't normally pay attention to on lookers.  He had a bit of that "Deer in the Headlights" look when he caught my eye.  Have to admit that I love that.  It's so HAWT!  I asked him if he had come for his turn.  He said, in a rather shakey voice, "No.  I'm still just sort of looking around taking it all in.  And we still don't have permission from my friend."  OK.  I was a touch unhappy about that answer.  "Whip Tease #2!" went through my head.  Then I pushed my willing toy back down and opened up the toy bag to find another entertaining way to torture him.  Must admit that I enjoyed that boy quite a bit.... as long as I was working on him. 

Happily, Sunday morning after the bags were packed but had not been taken down to the car, a friend grabbed me and told me that the Burly Security guy was looking for me.  His Domme friend was in Ops waiting to meet me.  I came into the room laughing "Hi!  I'm the one running around calling your friend a 'Whip tease'."  She laughed at that and said "He's not really!  He wants to play, but I told him that I had to approve potential partners."  Apparently, she had already heard about me through the grape vine because she barely spoke to me before giving her OK.  She called the man on her cell to tell him where I was waiting for him.  She was a lovely woman.  She was only concerned that her friend not get hooked up with the 'Wrong' Domme as so many would have actually HURT him.  The burly boy and I had a lovely, though short, chaperoned session up in my room.

One was a whip tease, the other was not.  I doubt that 'chasing' them ever actually turns out.  But sitting back and allowing them to come to you apparently does work out well sometimes.

**** Oh!  And as for those who Flake after the first session, my longest running boy Wall-e pulled that one on me as well.  We had corresponded via CM, email, phone calls, etc for almost a year before he managed to visit.  (I'm in TN, he's in PA - sort of a long way to travel!)  Then he got all guilty and "Left the Lifestyle" for almost three months.  Since he came crawling back, he has been my most loyal, generous and faithful boy.






beej -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 8:00:57 AM)

lmao. great story, MsStarlett. if collarchat had a periodical, i'd hope that you put in a column about your yearly convention adventures. i really laughed. regarding this:
quote:

my longest running boy Wall-e pulled that one on me as well. We had corresponded via CM, email, phone calls, etc for almost a year before he managed to visit. (I'm in TN, he's in PA - sort of a long way to travel!) Then he got all guilty and "Left the Lifestyle" for almost three months. Since he came crawling back, he has been my most loyal, generous and faithful boy.

amazing to me, mostly that you would have the patience to wait that long. in patience, i suppose there is more room for them to wiggle but perhaps bigger payoffs in the end.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 8:46:45 AM)

I think this is an each her own thing. I personally do not have the patiences to deal with boys who waffle. You want to be with me, kneel. If not, be gone.

But one of the most liberating things for me is realising that maybe he's just not that into me and moving on. It really avoids a whole lot of drama.

- LA




MsStarlett -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 11:10:51 AM)

Well.... Wall-e is kind of a special one.  But then, all my long running associations are unique. 




slvemike4u -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 12:09:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I think this is an each her own thing. I personally do not have the patiences to deal with boys who waffle. You want to be with me, kneel. If not, be gone.

But one of the most liberating things for me is realising that maybe he's just not that into me and moving on. It really avoids a whole lot of drama.

- LA

And You wonder why i follow You around.....it's that whole kneel or be gone thing.....makes my knees weak(which makes bending them just a natural reaction).[:D]




LadyAngelika -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 3:18:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

Well.... Wall-e is kind of a special one.  But then, all my long running associations are unique. 



Oh there are special ones, I agree. I personally have even dropped those. I've redefined the special one as the one who sets honest limits to get what he needs to get done but puts me first the rest of the time.

But we might have different objectives, which is why I say to each her own :-)

- LA




LadyAngelika -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 3:19:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I think this is an each her own thing. I personally do not have the patiences to deal with boys who waffle. You want to be with me, kneel. If not, be gone.

But one of the most liberating things for me is realising that maybe he's just not that into me and moving on. It really avoids a whole lot of drama.

- LA

And You wonder why i follow You around.....it's that whole kneel or be gone thing.....makes my knees weak(which makes bending them just a natural reaction).[:D]


And here I thought you just liked my legs... ;-)

- LA




Andalusite -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 4:25:38 PM)

MsStarlett, the only time someone else has needed to give permission for me to play with someone, it was because the two of them were in a relationship. If someone had a "protector" or "mentor" who was screening potential partners, without being involved with them, I'd think they lacked common sense and weren't the kind of person I would want to play with.




slvemike4u -> RE: Chasing the Whip Tease (4/11/2010 5:47:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I think this is an each her own thing. I personally do not have the patiences to deal with boys who waffle. You want to be with me, kneel. If not, be gone.

But one of the most liberating things for me is realising that maybe he's just not that into me and moving on. It really avoids a whole lot of drama.

- LA

And You wonder why i follow You around.....it's that whole kneel or be gone thing.....makes my knees weak(which makes bending them just a natural reaction).[:D]


And here I thought you just liked my legs... ;-)

- LA

Oh,I so like the legs.....but I get the feeling there is so much more....




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