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Real0ne -> RE: Christianity. (4/11/2010 1:55:33 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Resnic
Personally Im of the mind that if religion and faith in it make someone happy then by all means, have at it. For those who understand it, it has nothing to do with “what makes them happy”
Well to approach a topic such as this we have look back at humanitys past and see how its behaved. Basically humans as individuals are smart but as humanity as a whole they are very stupid, scared, superstitious, self centered, pretentious and mindless cattle needing to be led. All those things birthed religion.
WRONG!
1- But a thousand years ago we believed that illness was due to posession, or that we had tiny frogs living in our stomachs. Just a couple hundred years ago good, honest, faithfull, god fearing christians would burn their own family members alive because they thought they were witches, or simply throw them off a cliff and say "If your a witch youll fly off if not then youll die a good and pure christian".
You are citing the results of the ill informed, though I would agree that there have been huge mistakes made and or CORRUPTION which is the most typical.
2- Now religion was born long before those times, so does that it mean its as dependable as all those other things we believed? Religion during its inception was a form of control in a rather lawless world.
Christianity is thou shalt do no harm.
3- Holidays, oh shit this is a big one folks. Every single christian holiday is stolen from someone else.
Christianity is the melting pot of religion and the Catholic for instance means “universal” church. The object was entice the pagans not enslave the pagans. The rest of what you said is cultural bickering.
4- Now we have something that always pissed me off, a bible story. So, we have Abraham a truly devoted, loving, caring man of god who loved his lord more than anything. So satan tells god that if he were stricken that he would denounce gods name. So according to the story god basically gives him boils and sores, kills his family, kills his livestock and knocks down his home and does terrible things to Abraham just to win a bet with satan. Hold the fuck on here, I thought god cherrished us and loved us above all else, why would he hurt people and ruin a faithfull mans good life just to prove a point?
You lack a fundamental understanding of what any religion is about and comprehension of the methods of presentation.
5- Then you have all the contradictions like "thou shalt not kill", ok so its a commandment and its never ok to ever kill anyone for any reason. Excuse me didnt god just kill Abrahams family? What about all the armies in the name of god that killed thousands in the bible? What about this
"(Levtiticus 21:9 NAB) A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death" what happened to thou shalt not kill?. Or here is a real fucking beauty, "(GE50:13) Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite. "(AC 7:15-16) He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem, bought from the sons of Hamor." Or how about all the times god describes him and is described as loving, gentle, forgiving, caring, fatherfly but at the same time is vengeful, a warrior, jealous and a consumming fire. Thats the tip of iceberg, I could go and on about blatant contradictions.
Another one….correctly interpreted “Thou shalt not murder”. Reference cain and able.
6- How come the dinosaurs werent mentioned anyway? I mean if he created man in his own image what did he create dinosaurs in since they predate us? His cousin ted? And why is there a 65 billion year gap? Did he create the earth and then sit around playing checkers for 65 billion years before creating us? Bible talks in days. Ill tell you why dinosaurs werent mentioned, because they were here first and died before us, then 65 billion years went by and man came out of the swamps, evolved some and had no idea about dinosaurs because they were buried under the ground to far for us to reach or know about. So man wrote the bible with no understanding of them or the fact the earth was billions of years old already.
Again you fail to make the correct connections.
7- I have a personal distaste for religion as its sort of a convience that you can make it anything you want and a crutch for the weak minded. Honestly if christianity and the bible are the final word then how come we have dozens of versions of it?
Interpretation unfortunately is in the eyes of the beholder (including the translators) and nothing has been more bastardized than the bible in its interpretation. You claim Christains are hard headed and weak minded? Better rethink that.
8- We create a imaginary god that lives in heaven and has specially created us just so he can watch us and love us from afar. How much fuller can we get of ourselves than to believe some omnipotent creator of the universe would create all of exsistence just for us to live in? Its the ultimate form of conceitement.
In that sense God is an abstraction that can with proper understanding manifest in your acts.
9- I guess god is just a aligator. He must be because if we were created in his own image then why do we share so many indisputeable anatomical and physiological and biological traits with many species of animals on the planet in a ever declining evolutionary scale? Surely if god created us in his own image we would physically be a little further up the scale than we currently are.
Fortunately I don’t have to read very far to see where you missed the boat on literally every aspect of the matter
10- "I felt the touch of god", "God called out to me personally and blessed me with his light" or someother comment a person makes when they actually think they have felt god in their lives as a reality and not a metaphor is what is called, the placebo effect.
Yes that is the typical term most people use for lack of words when they finally break through the barrier and start to grasp the real meanings of what they previously had no clue.
11- Religion breeds the most judgemental and unaccepting people I have ever met, I truly mean that. Religious people on whole will not accept anyone that doesnt agree with them (Ive already shown that above multiple times). Yes they are enlightened by the Law of God. Ive never had a budhist confront me at the store or a fucking satanist show up at my door.
They are without the law.
After some reflection I am starting to think that christianity was started by pagans. Even the part "Drink this wine for it is my blood" sounds alot like vampirism and "eat this bread for it is my body" sounds pretty close to cannibalism. The two biggest holidays for christians are christmas and easter, meaning jesus was born and died on two of the biggest pagan holidays.
Its symbolic.
Really I could sit and write a novel on this stuff
Please spare us,
If were ever going to move forward as a species and mentally evolve we need to get rid of this old world, superstitious nonsense, all it does is hamper our minds and hold us back. Yes you can do whatever you like but try thinking for yourself for once, try using your mind and considering all the paths instead of just one set before you from a book of fairy tales. It takes a strong person to make their own choices, live up to their own convictions and be truly open minded about everything. Any simple minded sheep can just go through life believing what they are told to by others.
Its all around you.
The greatest inventors of all times were extremely religious.
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