Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Anyone done branding?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> Anyone done branding? Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Anyone done branding? - 4/3/2006 10:38:21 PM   
AngelxOfxPainx


Posts: 1
Joined: 4/3/2006
Status: offline 		I have in interest in this. But I have no idea who to talk to or where to go to learn about it and all the safetly rules that go along with it. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/3/2006 10:51:09 PM   
taimarra


Posts: 2
Joined: 3/18/2006
Status: offline 		I'm not an expert, and the brands I've been given are hardly noteworthy, I can at least help you start finding some information, and give some general guidelines that I was given years ago by a professional brander.

The advice I was given was to make sure, first off, that the iron is hot.  If you want a large (2"x2") brand, you should have many many irons.  You can't brand a human the way one would brand cattle and have it come out right.  Intricate patterns just aren't going to happen.  You can't take, for example, an H made out of metal and stick it to human flesh, it will heal strangely.  You could, however, use 5 separate straight irons and press them in separately, with slight gaps between them for healing purposes.  That's about the best I can help you with, maybe someone else can provide more.

If you search for body modification and branding on google, yahoo, etc. you should find several places to get tips/feedback.  Depending on where you live, there may be a local tattoo shop which has a brander, I know most larger cities are actually starting to have these.

Good luck to you!

tai

(in reply to AngelxOfxPainx)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/3/2006 11:26:11 PM   
slaveofdarkhold


Posts: 124
Joined: 3/15/2006
Status: offline 		What taimarra said about healing brands is true- everyone's skin heals differently and so it's impossible to accurately predict how the brand will turn out. The scars will often be much wider than the irons used to make the brand and so and complicated patterns and small details are likely to be lost or distorted. If done proffessionally, a number of small irons will be used to make up the pattern in separate 'strikes' which can help reduce the chances of the brand becoming misshapen but the natural healing process of the body can still make the brand appear uneven or different from what you hoped. If something more complicated than a basic geometric design is desired, you might find a cautery pen gives better results- it will give you much more control over the pattern and much thinner lines. These can be bought from medical supply shops and are relatively cheap, but you might need to use more than one nib as they burn out fairly quickly and may become less effective. Disposable cautery pens might be a good idea for this.
The irons need to be hot and applied neatly and firmly. In theory, the pain shouldn't be much worse than a tattoo as the heat quickly burns away the nerve endings in the skin. However the heat will be conducted to the skin surrounding the brand which can still become very painful.
As far as the safety aspect goes, normal rules apply. The skin needs to be cleaned and sterilised as does your equipment, though the high temperatures of the irons/wire should burn away any germs. If it is in any way possible, it's definately worth getting some proffessional advice and tuition before attempting this yourself. A branding is a permanent scar and there's no way to go back if you mess it up or decide you don't like it.
Because of differences in skin type you may or may not get a particularly striking result. Branding tends to show up best on darker skin and so if the skin is lighter it may be worth looking into tattooing as an alternative. Equally some people will get raised keloid scarring, whereas others wont, and on some people this may be uneven, with areas of the brand raised and other areas much more faint. In some cases the brand may fade after a few months or years but there's no way to know for sure. Its possible, though not recommended to re-brand over existing scars to even out the design. All of these things should be carefully thought through before attempting anything like this.
Initial healing will take several weeks, during which time it is important to keep the area clean (no swimming pools etc) and be aware of clothing rubbing against the brand as this could affect healing. Once the initial scabs have fallen off, it can still take several months to a year for it to fully heal and may still change slightly in appearance during this time, although it is unlikely to get infected once the scabs have gone. Opinions differ on the best way to care for a healing brand. The safest way is to leave it alone other than occassional cleansing, as this reduces the chances of inflamation and infection and will generally heal faily consistently. However in some cases the brand may heal 'too well' and not give the dramatic effect that is desired, so some people advise that the brand is irritated during healing. This can range from picking scabs to rubbing certain chemicals into the wound to create more defined scars but obviously carries much more risk--please don't try this without asking a proffessional first.
Other than that, all I can suggest is that you and whoever else is involved finds out as much as possible and thinks about all the possible consequences, and once again I urge you to speak to a proffessional if you can. Phone your local tattoo/piercing parlours as many of these will have some knowledge of the procedure.
BMEzine has a good faq to get you started, and googling 'scarification' should also bring up some useful results.

http://www.bmezine.com/scar/scar-faq.html

I hope some of that  is useful, I'm by no means an expert and I don't claim superior knowledge on the subject
play safe kids
jen

(in reply to AngelxOfxPainx)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 5:06:23 AM   
Sensualips


Posts: 1013
Joined: 10/8/2005
Status: offline 		I researched branding a few months back, saw a demo, and spoke to some experienced branders.  The consensus was there are ways to brand that pose much less risk and require less skill than strike branding.  Below are some links on branding.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_108417/mpage_1/key_branding%252Clinks/tm.htm#108417

http://www.collarchat.com/m_71435/mpage_1/key_branding/tm.htm#71435

http://www.collarchat.com/Burn_baby%2C_burn/m_314339/tm.htm

(in reply to AngelxOfxPainx)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 7:48:58 AM   
Wildfleurs


Posts: 1650
Joined: 9/24/2004
From: Connecticut
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: AngelxOfxPainx

I have in interest in this. But I have no idea who to talk to or where to go to learn about it and all the safetly rules that go along with it. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks


There are a variety of ways to brand and a lot of it has to do with how you want to do it and the reasons behind it.  If you are doing it strictly for body mod purposes, then a cautery pen is probably your best option in terms of being able to do an ornate and precise design. 

Depending on where you live, I would look at your local piercing and tattoo shops and find out if they know of any professionals that do branding.  Then sit down with the person and talk to them about whatever you are interested in, look at their porfolio.  That should at least give you a start.

C~


_____________________________

"Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid." -despair.com

~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The heart of it all - http://www.wildfleurs.com
~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

(in reply to AngelxOfxPainx)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 8:17:54 AM   
MsBearlee


Posts: 1032
Joined: 2/15/2006
Status: offline 		Three seconds sounds like a long time to me; humans have much thinner skin than has a cow!

Another thing to keep in mind...do not design 'closed' pieces (ie: a circle)...for the skin needs a solid blood supply to stay alive; you do not want to 'cut a piece off' from the rest of the body.

If I were to brand for the first time...I would have observed brandings at least a couple other times AND I would have an experienced 'brander' observe me at least once.

(in reply to Wildfleurs)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 8:21:01 AM   
MsBearlee


Posts: 1032
Joined: 2/15/2006
Status: offline 		LMAO... I am hardly 'Vanilla', thou this IS the first time I've posted here.  The above post was not in reply to Wildfleurs...but to the original post by AngelxOfxPainx.              ...thanks

(in reply to MsBearlee)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 8:40:17 AM   
MissLust


Posts: 6
Joined: 3/8/2005
Status: offline 		Hi,
Ive done branding many times. While it is best to let someone experienced brand you, its not that much of a science.
Theres a type or branding Ive heard referred to as "saturday night branding." Its what I have done many times to slaves of mine.
Its simple really. Its the after care that is more worth serious consideration.
To begin, a coat hanger works, bent into the design. Its thin and so when the design spreads its a good size.
One would bend the coat hanger to the desired shape and leave a long tail(handle)  like the irons you see on tv, so you can grab it with vice grips.
The shape should be made in consideration that you know the burn will spread bigger then your iron. So dont make a small intricate design. Leave room for the spreading.
After any coating burns off the hanger its ready. I usually use coat hangers with no coating to speak of.
Numb the area with some mycetracin with lidocaine. Rub it off well. Or wash it off.. dry it.
Then make the person brace themselves, as hopping around will cause a mis-strike. This is important.
Quickly strike the area and pull it off. Thats not gonna be hard since the person isnt gonna sit there long, so expect that you must do it quick and accurate in the first second.
The burn then needs to be coated in more mycetracin with lidocaine and bandaged with loose gauge.
Check the person for shock, and lay with them or cuddle them till they have thier senses back.
Now daily for about a week you need to wash the burn, and peel off any burnt skin, as you want it nice n flat. It will be bright reddish-pink.
Tend to the burn for a week to avoid scabbing, as thats where infection comes in. Keep it covered. Airborn contaminates can cause infection .Never scratch the scab off as it will be lumpy if you do. If you keep it moist and covered it wont scab.
The end result will be a smooth flat design, that fades to skin color in a few weeks. The more you strike it the more raised it will be. Ive heard that often a professional brander may do it repeatedly to cause a raised design with texture.
 
 My best advice is to get written consent before you begin, and keep it moist with aloe vera or something till it heals. Which takes about a week to be exact.
 
Have fun with your "saturday night brandings" ...
 

(in reply to Wildfleurs)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 8:56:09 AM   
ownme333


Posts: 1
Joined: 4/3/2006
Status: offline 		i had branding done ansd will regret it for the rest of my life...  the person was a wacko it turned out now i have to look at it forever, how do i get them removed.....

(in reply to MissLust)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 9:08:09 AM   
OneX2


Posts: 157
Joined: 1/3/2006
Status: offline 		That was a elegant description. One of the ways to tell if some one is really talented at what they do is the ability to bring the knowledge down into simple and manageable pieces. That was a good read! I really feel that you know what your doing. How many different designs have you done?

Joseph

(in reply to MissLust)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 9:56:47 AM   
Wildfleurs


Posts: 1650
Joined: 9/24/2004
From: Connecticut
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MissLust

Hi,
Ive done branding many times. While it is best to let someone experienced brand you, its not that much of a science.
Theres a type or branding Ive heard referred to as "saturday night branding." Its what I have done many times to slaves of mine.
Its simple really. Its the after care that is more worth serious consideration.
To begin, a coat hanger works, bent into the design. Its thin and so when the design spreads its a good size.
 
 

Personally I would never suggest someone use a coat hanger for a branding for a couple of reasons.  One I think its to thick, because a strike brand tends to spread at least three times more thick than the initial design.  Second, a coat hanger usually has a mixture of metals, including whatever its coated with so you never know what kind of reaction someone may have to it.  

C~

< Message edited by Wildfleurs -- 4/4/2006 9:57:08 AM >

_____________________________

"Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid." -despair.com

~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The heart of it all - http://www.wildfleurs.com
~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

(in reply to MissLust)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 10:23:14 AM   
wytchywoman


Posts: 510
Joined: 2/27/2006
From: Southeastern Michigan
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: ownme333

i had branding done ansd will regret it for the rest of my life...  the person was a wacko it turned out now i have to look at it forever, how do i get them removed.....


If your branding was done with a medical cautery pen, it will eventually fade on its own. The length of time you have to put up with it will depend on how deeply it was burned it. For any other type of scarring due to other methods of burning, you might want to consult a dermatologist. Some types of burns can be removed with laser treatments and there are now creams available that supposedly will reduce scarring. I'm not sure but I believe the main ingredient for these creams are steroids.

(in reply to ownme333)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 10:44:14 AM   
valeca


Posts: 403
Joined: 1/9/2006
Status: offline 		I've been branded.  It hurts like a bitch for that intense moment of searing pain.  The aftercare can be a painful ordeal, as well, so if you're considering this, be aware that the discomfort can last for several days to several weeks. Most of what is involved has been said already, but I will add:  Although a brand will usuall appear to heal quickly, it does, in fact, take several weeks for it to completely set/mend  If I remember correctly 6-8weeks--but I could be off by a week or two. 

Some will have you irritate the area to ensure the skin doesn't heal smoothly (leaving no scar and thwarting your efforts).  For this, I was told to rub salt in the wound (yeah, ouch).  It kept the skin from healing too quickly and too neatly.  A scab will form, and if you are told to remove it several times to disrupt the natural healing process, do it directly after bathing when the skin/scab is softest and most pliant. 

The scarification will indeed spread a great deal, and even the most carefully set brand can become somewhat ugly--depending on your body/skin, of course. 

Avoid the non-fleshy areas, as well, ie. ankles, tops of feet, etc.

I have fair skin, and it's been a couple of years since the brand was done, so it doesn't show a lot unless I'm cold or just out of the shower.  And my particular brand isn't a raised one.

Everyone will heal differently d/t specific skin types and/or individual metabolism, so be prepared for disappointment in the event it doesn't take--unless you are going to do it several times in the same area.  In that case, be sure to let the wound heal completely before repeating the process.

Most importantly, remember you ARE breaking the skin and exposing yourself to any number of infections. Be smart about it.

Edited to add:  As a side note, the stench of human skin burning can be quite nausiating.  It can be helpful if you apply some mentholatum (Vick's Vapo-Rub, for example) under your nose.  Also, do not chew gum or have anything in the mouth during the branding.  It could lead to choking  in the event of a "gasp" or yelping from the pain.

< Message edited by valeca -- 4/4/2006 10:56:24 AM >

_____________________________

~valeca, Owned and Operated by Loraith.

(in reply to Wildfleurs)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 1:04:07 PM   
MissLust


Posts: 6
Joined: 3/8/2005
Status: offline 		Ive never had a probem with any puss or oozing with my brands, they came out nice and clean. The coat hanger is very thin and made perfect designs of my initials. So it worked well for what I wanted. Sure, any metals might cause a reaction, maybe thats what happened to yours Wildfluers. I seen the pics and it concerened me greatly. Wow, what a mess that was huh? That was NOT good. You shouldnt have had all them problems. Green and yellow puss is a bad sign. It was lumpy and uneven too. The brands I do are flat from day one, they want to dry up and scab but I never let that happen, with proper cleansing, betadine, and keeping antibiotic creme on it, they were perfectly healed in a few days, ready to touch and be showen off.
 
~MissLust~
 
 
~MissLust~

(in reply to Wildfleurs)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 1:17:19 PM   
Wildfleurs


Posts: 1650
Joined: 9/24/2004
From: Connecticut
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MissLust

Ive never had a probem with any puss or oozing with my brands, they came out nice and clean. The coat hanger is very thin and made perfect designs of my initials. So it worked well for what I wanted. Sure, any metals might cause a reaction, maybe thats what happened to yours Wildfluers. I seen the pics and it concerened me greatly. Wow, what a mess that was huh? That was NOT good. You shouldnt have had all them problems. Green and yellow puss is a bad sign. It was lumpy and uneven too. The brands I do are flat from day one, they want to dry up and scab but I never let that happen, with proper cleansing, betadine, and keeping antibiotic creme on it, they were perfectly healed in a few days, ready to touch and be showen off.
 
~MissLust~
 
 
~MissLust~


*Brands*  perfectly healed and ready to be touched in a few days?

I can tell you have done *tons* of brands then.

C~


_____________________________

"Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid." -despair.com

~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The heart of it all - http://www.wildfleurs.com
~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

(in reply to MissLust)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 1:41:07 PM   
valeca


Posts: 403
Joined: 1/9/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissLust

Ive never had a probem with any puss or oozing with my brands, they came out nice and clean. The coat hanger is very thin and made perfect designs of my initials. So it worked well for what I wanted. Sure, any metals might cause a reaction, maybe thats what happened to yours Wildfluers. I seen the pics and it concerened me greatly. Wow, what a mess that was huh? That was NOT good. You shouldnt have had all them problems. Green and yellow puss is a bad sign. It was lumpy and uneven too. The brands I do are flat from day one, they want to dry up and scab but I never let that happen, with proper cleansing, betadine, and keeping antibiotic creme on it, they were perfectly healed in a few days, ready to touch and be showen off.
 
~MissLust~
 
 
~MissLust~


*Brands*  perfectly healed and ready to be touched in a few days?

I can tell you have done *tons* of brands then.

C~



I'm going to have to echo Wildfleurs' sentiment on this one.  Something just isn't right here.

I forgot to add in my last post :  Anyone seriously considering branding--do as much research on the topic as possible from as many different sources as you can find.  If for no other reasons than your own peace of mind and personal safety.

_____________________________

~valeca, Owned and Operated by Loraith.

(in reply to Wildfleurs)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 2:26:50 PM   
Sensualips


Posts: 1013
Joined: 10/8/2005
Status: offline
quote:

*Brands*  perfectly healed and ready to be touched in a few days?


Maybe more like superficial burns instead of what we might consider a brand?  Dunno.

I did talk witha person that heated up a paper clip and then branded/burned with it and the bottom ended up with some type of metal poisoning in her blood that was pretty serious. 

(Insert a Mommy Dearest "no wire hangers" moment here.)

(in reply to Wildfleurs)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 3:17:24 PM   
LeatherBentOne


Posts: 469
Joined: 9/27/2005
Status: offline 		Please be very cautious of infection, especially if the individual is diabetic.  Even then, nobody wants bacteria in their blood stream.  It almost killed me Oct 2004.  Not from branding, although I see where many precautions must be taken.  Safety first.

(in reply to Sensualips)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 3:21:21 PM   
wytchywoman


Posts: 510
Joined: 2/27/2006
From: Southeastern Michigan
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sensualips

quote:

*Brands*  perfectly healed and ready to be touched in a few days?


Maybe more like superficial burns instead of what we might consider a brand?  Dunno.

I did talk witha person that heated up a paper clip and then branded/burned with it and the bottom ended up with some type of metal poisoning in her blood that was pretty serious. 

(Insert a Mommy Dearest "no wire hangers" moment here.)


I've only been branded twice and both times were using medical cautery pens. My owner did several months of research before he even attempted any kind of brand.

He concluded that coat hangers are generally coated with PAINT. Paint is not good to burn into anyones skin. Paperclips are made of the cheapest of combinations of various metals. Heat them up and then you've got an even more serious potential for dangerous interactions.

I'm sincerely glad my owner used a medical cautery pen even though the brands require renewing after a certain amount of time. The first cautery brand I got lasted a year...the second (over the top of the first) lasted around two years because he learned to burn it deeper the second time.

Also, I've seen people post here on these forums that they regretted being branded in "traditonal methods" and have asked how to remove the brands. Not all relationships last as much as we might wish they would. That's another reason why a medical cautery pen might work a bit better for brands.

Just my two cents, though.

(in reply to Sensualips)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: Anyone done branding? - 4/4/2006 4:51:23 PM   
OkSMWhiphandler


Posts: 13
Joined: 1/24/2006
Status: offline 		Ok this is what I know of strike branding which is not much I will add my opinion here one of the local dungoens had a seminar on this a while back Fakir was the person doing the class and one of the crash test demoees had a lightning bolt done on her right shoulder
it took over a month for the wound to heel which at the time of the healing process it looked pretty ugly and some what icky and not very defined I am not shure of the cleaning process that she followed but it was kept clean she went away for a while as some people tend to do on occasion from time to time and I got to see it again this last weekend the scar is still somewhat recessed below the surface at this time but has healed nicley and looks realy defined it is about 6 months old at this time at the time of  it being done it was about 1/32 to1/16 below the surface and looked like a 3rd degree burn Duhh just in detail lol
as far as process usally it is done with seperate pieces of sheet metal bent into the various forms to complete the design the metal is heated with a torch to a specific tempurature
and placed on the skin about 1 second or les is all it takes to do this at the time it is burning away the skin if it is done correctly it sears the nerve endings and souldnt be to painful
acording to the people I have discussed this with but I have not expierienced this myself so I am not shure I know you dont want to overlap the strikes reason 1 is it will heal unevenly and not be apealing to the eye also as some one mentioned closing it off so if you want like a full circle it will have to be done in seperate settings to allow the the capillaries to regrow back through the the wound  if this is some thing you are interested in I would find someone who is expeireinced in this topic there are several shops across the US do a search either google or yahoo as someone mentioned above when I was researching this there was alot of hits on the shops as well as the process and after care also you might want to search keloid scarring


good luck
Steve

(in reply to wytchywoman)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> Anyone done branding? Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.082