Termyn8or
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Real. every day you argue about minor points rather than answering me you are giving Ken more ammo. What EXACTLY are you going to gain ?
The olman was considered slow in the family, but over the years I discovered that this was because of different standards. But even he understood this somwhat and we did discuss it when I was first learning about it. Maybe pragmatism is the word, not sure but he had it in spades. After rational discussion I decided not to go through with this.
After careful consideration I did not persue it. What I did do was effective enough, in other words I enjoy quite a bit of lawlessness - QUIETLY. Now that I mention it, remember quiet titles ? That was a fucking waste of time.
Still, remember that I am not against you, and in fact have another example of the fuzzy lines of jurisdiction if you are cognizant enough to care. That's what I said, some people get so wrapped up in this they lose sight of the forest because of all those damnned trees.
Remember DomAviator ? Well he was in Texas and owned a bunch of rental property in New York. His renters signed a lease that clearly stated that the agreement was governed by the laws of Texas. A real bar memberin, suit wearin lawyer got this setup for him. This is a perfect example of how one can sign into a jurisdiction. Unless it was all lies, which I doubt, it makes a good example. He HAD a reason because such an arraingement gave him a tremendous advantage when it came down to any real litigation. Of course the condition and use of the property was governed by NY, but anything having to do with the contract was governed by TX.
You sit here and argue about the flag, while even though I am recused until I get your answer I have now offered more than you on the matter right here and now. DA had good reason for a bit of hanky panky with the law, and it was all nice and legal. My question remains, what is all this going to gain YOU ?
The pilot who beat the IRS over taxes on a half million dollars worth of income didn't have to do this. She didn't have to burn her pilot's license and all this shit. And in my case, I already pay nothing without going through all this. I just pay my property taxes and bills. Of course the occasional lawyer bill, but who doesn't ? You get the right lawyers and you can skate so well that there is simply no reason to declare yourself anything. I swear if I went any farther with this they would be paying me just to stay alive. I am considering it. That's why I have five fucking lawyers, but believe me, it's not like I keep them on retainer.
There are so many other ways, those which do not preclude any other actions I might take. Like my buddy, he was probably right turning down that $150,000 construction job because he would have to sign that he would make his employees pay city income tax in that venue. I would probably have signed it and if the question ever came up I would just say "those people don't work for me". The only difference is that I would probably have to pay that city taxes, so I am not so sure I would do that.
What my Daddy taught me was that you do what you gotta do to assure that you walk out of that courtroom. Once out the door you do whatever the fuck you want. It works for me. The path I was taking long ago made this process very alluring for me, but I did not fall into it. I am no longer discussing it's validity, it's not worth it. Realistically, Ken (I don't mean to refer to you too much, but right here.....) would make a great government employee who would tear people to shreds who try this. I understand this (not meaning to unnecessarily compliment anyone) enough that he could bite 90% of the people in the ass when they try it. But there will still be that other ten percent.
The fact is that this can work because the government is not really all that competent, I could take and play Devil's advocate and strike down most of it, despite the fact that I know. I was taught to argue both sides. Lawyers are taught to argue both sides.
But the fact remains, until you reveal to me some non esoteric, non idealogical, actual REAL advantage of doing this, I see it all as a moot point. Which also means you are not true to your name and should change it to Unreal.
Sure, certain strait laced folk, I love tearing them to threads when the opportunity arises. But REALize that both arguments in my eyes will come under the same scrutiny. My boss has a saying goes something like "Why are you looking for elephants when the problem is fleas ?".
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