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a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:16:46 AM

LadyEllen

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No, not what you might think.

My fellow director and I thought it might be nice to take on an apprentice - a young person seeking an entry level position in our industry, who would spend about half their time at college and the rest gaining valuable work experience in the office, not to mention providing us with an extra pair of hands. Because of how it all works, its good value for us and of course, a good opportunity for the young person concerned.

So, we held interviews last week; 8 youngsters turned up and we eventually chose one - a great young lady of 17 years with the potential to develop into the role and make a career of it.

Then the agency arranging it asks for - a CRB check on me and my fellow director. For those unfamilar with these, theyre Criminal Records Bureau checks that establish whether you have a criminal record and theyre used in those instances where adults have supervision or control or care of children and/or vulnerable adults (the disabled for instance). You have to pay to get them and the waiting period is currently around 3 months from receipt of application - odd considering the police can bring your record, if any, up in under 20 seconds.

Now - this young lady is 17 years old. To most intents and purposes she is an adult. Further, it is intended she works in our office, where there are three other young ladies and another guy to whom she might report, any of whom might be abusers if thats what theyre worried about, who arent required to produce a CRB check.

This is a lot of nonsense. We are not going to apply for CRB checks FFS, to do a young person the favour of an apprenticeship that the government is pushing like crazy.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:23:35 AM

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We had a few different background checks to work in the group homes.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:24:34 AM

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Lady Ellen, forgive me for making light of the absurdity you encounter but sometimes wise-ass humour is the only remedy. I suggest you check to see if your firm falls under Maritime Admiralty Jurisdiction. If not, it is probably a conspiracy of the dark forces of govt. who dispise your individual sovereignty.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:27:24 AM

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Well, I wouldnt mind Vincent, but it was only her ens legis persona we were going to rape and murder, you know?

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:29:34 AM

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Ask them for a CRB check first. Tell them that you cannot possibly hire an apprentice that might be abused by anyone in the agency that supervises her.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:31:50 AM

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If you have nothing in your past history, why would you object;.......unless????

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:33:20 AM

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This is nothing but PROOF that the recession is over!

LOL.

I am not sure why one would hire a 17 year old when many older are out of work. But I am sure they have their reasons.
Compared to the UK- the US is much easier in terms of employment regs. Tho that is changing.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:34:02 AM

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On the other hand, if she were yanno one of them galactic aliens .... well then even the Law of the Sea would not provide jurisdiction.

Kidding aside, sorry for the red tape you encounter.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:36:06 AM

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Not to worry.

The position will be outsourced to India by next week.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:37:37 AM

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We dont need this person - we thought it would be a nice thing to do now that might pay dividends later. The cost to us is negligible.

Our objection is that in wanting to do something nice we suddenly get convicted, until proven otherwise, of being abusive people - and we have to pay them to prove us innocent and this young lady gets to sit around doing nothing until August when the record should be available. Sheer stupidity. Especially when we have four rapists, drug dealers, traffickers and axe murderers already working for us who wont be checked.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:52:40 AM

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The law puts adulthood at 16/18, so I say this makes sense.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 9:59:30 AM

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What's that you say!!! And you think you shouldn't be checked out? Rapist, drug traffic guys, already.....yeah, I would check you guys out either.
Just a nice thing to do for somebody?....really; give me a break.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 10:13:42 AM

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X - You don't do sarcasm well, do you?

Lady E, that really sucks. I hope things work out well for all involved.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 10:32:43 AM

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I thought it was pretty well done. You got some group who has rapists, drug traffickers, axe murderers; want some young thang, is asked for verifications, refuses to abide, for some personal lame unexplainable excuse,.... like We are good guys and going to give 'young thang' a break.......some where in the distant future

I thought it was pretty good actually. I wouldn't investigate a group like that either.

If just 'good stuff' were going on; then why not obey to the rule. If the group is so proud of it's accomplishments, why not share it with others, fill out the papers, prove your validity and get the approval....unless.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 10:36:43 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: xbrand

I thought it was pretty well done. You got some group who has rapists, drug traffickers, axe murderers; want some young thang, is asked for verifications, refuses to abide, for some personal lame unexplainable excuse,.... like We are good guys and going to give 'young thang' a break.......some where in the distant future

I thought it was pretty good actually. I wouldn't investigate a group like that either.

If just 'good stuff' were going on; then why not obey to the rule. If the group is so proud of it's accomplishments, why not share it with others, fill out the papers, prove your validity and get the approval....unless.

Since you still haven't gotten it, I will try to explain. She was joking about the rapists. As to why she shouldn't pay some idiot group for the privileged of having a 17 year old helper and then waiting 3 months for her to actually work. Gosh I don't know. Would you pay for it, when you could just find a 18 year old apprentice and not go through the bs paperwork?

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 10:37:20 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: xbrand

I thought it was pretty well done. You got some group who has rapists, drug traffickers, axe murderers; want some young thang, is asked for verifications, refuses to abide, for some personal lame unexplainable excuse,.... like We are good guys and going to give 'young thang' a break.......some where in the distant future

I thought it was pretty good actually. I wouldn't investigate a group like that either.

If just 'good stuff' were going on; then why not obey to the rule. If the group is so proud of it's accomplishments, why not share it with others, fill out the papers, prove your validity and get the approval....unless.

Are there two different conversations going on at once in this thread? Because you don't seem to be paying any attention at all to the conversation everyone else is having.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 10:50:04 AM

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If it were here in Missouri I could see the reason in requiring a background check when employing a minor...no big deal I would think. Why is it with you?

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 11:04:53 AM

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Dont worry all - "xbrand" is just upset with me because I called it "disgusting scum" for saying what a good thing the nazi genocide was and then accused it of being too thick to make a decent nazi.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 11:05:47 AM

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KDSUB has it right; no two conversations here, except in your head.

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RE: a lot of nonsense - 4/19/2010 11:08:17 AM

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JOKING !!! JOKING!!!!! so, this is just some frivolity thread. It's all a joke?
Nothing more need be said.

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