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Masters know best... - 4/4/2006 10:29:35 PM

slavejali

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hi All,

Master and I are moving..I'm really very excited about it. We basically live literally "at work". We are building a retreat center and live there, basic goals with that are to build a Dojang away from the city where martial arts schools can come for a week away together, train etc, also for individuals to just come and find some peace and quiet, have some alone time etc, I visualise beautiful gardens and walkways and trails.

There are other people living on various parts of the property who do management and maintenance, there are also a few people I have taken under my wing who have certain problems etc..but basically..you get the picture ...we literally "live" at work. Like we cant drive in our driveway without someone waving to us...does that sound dumb?

So lately I have been feeling some stress, I think basically because there is no where for us to "get away" from work, if im at home I'm at work and when I'm at work Im at work"... I think its been effecting my health..Master noticed it...and had "a talk" to me regarding finding a place of our own "away from work". At first I was "less than enthusiastic" about the idea, for various reasons I dont wont to go into here...but as the days have gone on and we have actually made steps towards moving....god I'm getting excited and I already feel a huge weight being lifted off me.

Sometimes Masters just know best hey *grin* Its just better to surrender to them...harder to do when its a big life changing issue..but god that is what all this is about hey...submission, surrender, giving over......god I think I'm relaxing *grin*

Well I started this topic cuz I just wanted to share about Masters knowing best..thats where our slavery lays in surrendering to that and no matter how much we are worried or concerned over any issue, we just have to surrender and let our Masters take control of the situation. I'm really grateful for that right now.

I dont know what people can add to this topic..but if you have your own experiences like this..please share.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/4/2006 10:45:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavejali
Sometimes Masters just know best hey *grin* Its just better to surrender to them...harder to do when its a big life changing issue..but god that is what all this is about hey...submission, surrender, giving over......god I think I'm relaxing *grin*

Jali, if there wasn't a bloody big pond in the way, that would have just got you hugged (I'd have asked his permission first of course... there IS politeness and protocol *g*). When it works, it works and it is damn good to see

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 12:49:34 AM

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oh! i think i know exactly what you mean. i love that feeling - it's like i'll struggle and overthink things and start going over all the pros and cons in my head for a few minutes, and then i'll come back to myself and just let go. it's like floating, being able to give up all the worry and tension over things. it's done wonders for some of my stress (though He still gets onto me for overthinking things). i'm learning more and more to have faith that even when He makes decisions that i would usually balk at, things always work out for the best.

Master definitely knows best! :)

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 1:19:15 AM

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quote:

Original Quote: RavenMuse
that would have just got you hugged

hehe RavenMuse..i feel like hugging every Master on the planet right now..im so in appreciation mode at the moment *grin* All you Dominant type Master people are just so wonderful.

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Orginal Quote: fullofgrace
i'm learning more and more to have faith that even when He makes decisions that i would usually balk at, things always work out for the best.

Exactly......I'm only practically perfect

i admit i still balk at things from time to time *grin*...not often but i do.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 2:27:41 AM

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Rather than the Master Knows Best logic I go with The Dicision was made ideal. Masters like anyone else make mistakes thinking only with best intentions. Right or wrong, he made the choice and the two of you didn't argue about it for weeks. One of the most important things I like about the Life Style of domination/submission is that decisions are normally made quicker and things can get done in a more organized fashion. Some choices still do not work out as planned but atleast chaos is put to a minimum. Structure is an important part of keeping things well balanced in a relationship and D/s does that very well for me and my pet.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 2:40:46 AM

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Thats so true FangsNFeet.....

Also...

When Master is deciding on something he knows I'm gonna feel awkward with He usually handles it by saying... "This may happen....start getting used to the idea." That wasnt the case with this situation...but he has been known to say that over different things. I think He just knows sometimes I need some time to get used to ideas and changes.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 2:49:03 AM

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When I know there is something needed to be decided then most of the time I see if my girl has any needs or strong feelings on the issue and those get taken into consideration when I make the decision. Sometimes a decision needs taking fast and there isn't time to do that in either case I make the decision I consider the best in the circumstance.... Contray to popular opinion, I am not perfect, no-one is, but I do have good judgement, though sometimes will tread on a few toes by focusing on the bigger picture on a situation when others are looking shorter term.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 2:54:25 AM

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Original Quote: RavenMuse
When I know there is something needed to be decided then most of the time I see if my girl has any needs or strong feelings on the issue and those get taken into consideration when I make the decision.

Yes, the " This may happen...get used to the idea" usually comes after Master has talked with me a lot about it.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 4:38:01 AM

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Since your only a day and a half drive I wish you and you Master and IB and I could get together and see what We could come up with .

Neets

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 6:01:45 AM

slavejali

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LadyNeets: yes i have thought the same thing on and off

Time will tell

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 6:07:48 AM

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I have learned to let go of my own thoughts and lean on what my Sir thinks is best for me. Since moving in with him life for me has pretty much felt like a vacation. I spent almost 20 years being the person to do it all and to have someone even helping with the cooking and cleaning is overwhelming and I have to be taught to sit down and let him do things.

I'm also anxious to get going on my schooling and get a career so I can feel I am contributing to the household. Right now he does all that. But, he won't let me rush into it all. Everything in it's own time he says. I just have to relax and let him decide when it will be time to hit the books and think about job opportunities.

It really is a wonderful thing to learn to let go and just be whatever he wants me to be.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 6:12:06 AM

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Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

I know for me Big Changes scare me. It's best to just present the idea to me and then let me mull over it. ALmost always my mind just needs time to wrap around the idea, get a fix for all the variables and then I'm off and running with it. But just throwing it into my lap and saying GO! will cause anxiety, panic and overall confusion.

I'm glad you're getting a place on your own to enjoy though.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 7:02:39 AM

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With all due respect, I think you mean YOUR Master knows best for the two of YOU.....but I don't like to see the idea reinforced that because someone titles himself "Master" means he knows what's best for everybody. Because I know "Masters" who don't know shit from apple butter.

Your retreat sounds wonderful, though! It actually sounds like a dream that I've always had in the back of my mind of something I'd like to do..... Best of luck!

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 7:37:21 AM

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There may be a couple things going on here.

One is that masters study their subs in ways that they don’t see themselves, I always watch for how they react as much as how they answer. Subs sometimes seem to have two minds on just about everything and the wise master will realize this and act accordingly. Sometimes what subs think they want may not be what they need, and over time this becomes apparent with observation of her.

And sometimes subs just want master to be wiser and it becomes so in their minds.

And then there is always that desire to please so much that they may come to really want what he wants, it just may take a little time during which they may feel ambivalent about it.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 7:59:52 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cillydom

There may be a couple things going on here.

One is that masters study their subs in ways that they don’t see themselves, I always watch for how they react as much as how they answer. Subs sometimes seem to have two minds on just about everything and the wise master will realize this and act accordingly. Sometimes what subs think they want may not be what they need, and over time this becomes apparent with observation of her.

And sometimes subs just want master to be wiser and it becomes so in their minds.

And then there is always that desire to please so much that they may come to really want what he wants, it just may take a little time during which they may feel ambivalent about it.

Or a combo of all three. This post nails the dynamic between my Master & i, right on the head (ouch).

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 8:01:10 AM

slavejali

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Original Quote: windchymes
With all due respect, I think you mean YOUR Master knows best for the two of YOU.....

Yeah of course i meant that,

Its "i love Masters day" today *grin* and thanks for the well-wishes.

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Original Quote: cillydom
Sometimes what subs think they want may not be what they need, and over time this becomes apparent with observation of her.

Thats true of Master, He is really observant, not just of me but of everything, I think is awareness has been increased cause of his deafness, but I dont want to give his deafness all the credit, cuz he is amazing anyways even if he could hear *grin*

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And then there is always that desire to please so much that they may come to really want what he wants, it just may take a little time during which they may feel ambivalent about it.

I'm guilty of that, I dont see it as a bad thing but just a sign of my submissiveness/slavey nature.

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Original Quote: LittlePita
Everything in it's own time he says.

When Master and I first met He used to continually say to me "We have all the time in the world".

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Original Quote: LuckyAlbatros
I know for me Big Changes scare me.

This was a biggie for me cuz it was the house I lived in with my late husband, its weird, around the time we will be moving is the 3rd anniversay of his death..but I really am ready...and I love the idea that Master and I will create a home of our own besides any of the other stress relieving factors.(And Master when you read this Im not getting all weirded out and you were sitting about 4 feet away from me while I typed it and you didnt notice me crying or anything, so there)

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 8:09:50 AM

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you know i only mean that as the bestest of things, it's one of the things that make them so precious

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 8:12:20 AM

slavejali

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smile, yes

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 8:21:39 AM

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quote:

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and I love the idea that Master and I will create a home of our own besides any of the other stress relieving factors

Not like you haven't been dealing with a few mountains of stress on top of that as well. The blessing of relationships is to be with people who help support us and help us through the Big Changes- it doesn't really matter who is making the choice as long as everyone steps together.

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RE: Masters know best... - 4/5/2006 8:22:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: slavejali
Thats true of Master, He is really observant, not just of me but of everything, I think is awareness has been increased cause of his deafness, but I dont want to give his deafness all the credit, cuz he is amazing anyways even if he could hear *grin*

That is one of the things my girl has already commented on, that I often seem to know parts of her better than she knows herself. But often it is just a matter of understanding her body language.

Mind you friends have also commented, that I seem to hear more than just the words they use and understand what they ment even if they haven't explained all of it.

With me I guess it maybe come from having worked with mentaly handicapt challenging behaviour cases for so long, many of whom where none verbal so you had to be able to read what was going on from far more than just the sounds that where made. Guess I simply never stopped reading people in the same way.

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