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Musicmystery -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 12:05:33 PM)

You are still thinking of concepts as if they don't exist.

Mathematics is a concept. You can't go get a "2." But it is still a very useful and practical concept.

The problem is when you confuse concepts with physical things. Imagine you tried to pursue mathematics as such a physical thing, to find the 2, to search for the principles so that you could talk to them.

And you do the reverse--take real things, like changes in power structure, and treat them as mere concepts.

But mostly, I think you just get off on spewing weird shit.





Real0ne -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 12:08:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You are still thinking of concepts as if they don't exist.

Mathematics is a concept. You can't go get a "2." But it is still a very useful and practical concept.

The problem is when you confuse concepts with physical things. Imagine you tried to pursue mathematics as such a physical thing, to find the 2, to search for the principles so that you could talk to them.

And you do the reverse--take real things, like changes in power structure, and treat them as mere concepts.

But mostly, I think you just get off on spewing weird shit.





hardly I am making fun of your ignorance when you claimed money was "just a concept"/

I cant help but laugh my ass off every time I think about it.

That and like every thing else you cant back a damn thing you say up.

SSDD



Musicmystery -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 12:10:27 PM)

As I've told you many times before---pick up any economics text book, and turn to the money chapter.

Yet not only have you declined, you ridicule the notion, sticking to your own misconception.

It's unreasonableness by definition.



Real0ne -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 12:18:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

As I've told you many times before---pick up any economics text book, and turn to the money chapter.

Yet not only have you declined, you ridicule the notion, sticking to your own misconception.

It's unreasonableness by definition.


I gave you the publications I read from the federal reserve bank and you scoffed at it.

They are the ones who make your concept LMAO



Musicmystery -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 12:21:06 PM)

Actually, they make the same point.

You think money, currency, and physically backed currency are alike. They are not.



rulemylife -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 12:33:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

hardly I am making fun of your ignorance when you claimed money was "just a concept"/

I cant help but laugh my ass off every time I think about it.

That and like every thing else you cant back a damn thing you say up.

SSDD



Then what exactly would you consider money to be?

Does a $1 bill have any more actual value than a $100 bill?

They are both the same size, printed on the same material using the same inks and processes.

The only difference is the value we attach by virtue of the number printed on them.

In other words, a concept.



jlf1961 -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 2:14:17 PM)

Outgoing Clinton Administration personnel informed the Bush administration of the possibility of Al Qaeda striking the US with aircraft at a future date, AND Bush's own intel people told Bush that there was good intel that Al Qaeda was going to strike in the near future, using aircraft.

Bush replied to his own people, "alright, you covered your ass."

Then ignored the report.



Real0ne -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 3:29:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Actually, they make the same point.

You think money, currency, and physically backed currency are alike. They are not.




really?

I forgot more about money than you ever knew and that is purely fucking made up bullshit.







Real0ne -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 3:57:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

hardly I am making fun of your ignorance when you claimed money was "just a concept"/

I cant help but laugh my ass off every time I think about it.

That and like every thing else you cant back a damn thing you say up.

SSDD



Then what exactly would you consider money to be?

Does a $1 bill have any more actual value than a $100 bill?

They are both the same size, printed on the same material using the same inks and processes.

The only difference is the value we attach by virtue of the number printed on them.

In other words, a concept.




so they are worthless paper and this is new?

how about you pay 100 concepts, I mean since that is what they are in all.





subfever -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 5:43:14 PM)

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Although, it appears that you are giving the possibility that the government was NOT behind 9/11.


My guess is that not everyone will share the exact same definition of "behind" in this context.

From my point of view, it's a fairly reasonable assumption that the attack was as least allowed to happen, when considering the previous intel reports and the coincidences which occurred that day. I also think it's reasonable to conclude that there are serious omissions from the 9-11 commission report.

But what's the point of debating highly devisive topics like this? State worshipers will continue to worship the State while ostracizing conspiracy theorists as tin-hat lunatics; and conspiracy-theorists will continue to distrust government while painting state-worshipers as woefully blind sheep.

We can all go play in the partisan sandbox and get the exact same results... nothing but silly pissing matches that lead to nowhere, other than perhaps vain entertainment or ego-puffing. The state worshipers are entrenched, as are the conspiracy theorists, as are the lefties, as are the righties.

Can anyone point to anybody here who has moved from one camp over to another, as a result of a post? How about as a result of a whole thread? After numerous threads, perhaps?

I'd appreciate if someone could explain how we're doing something more here than just entertaining ourselves and stroking egos with these highly devisive topics... because I'm surely not seeing it.




jin99 -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 6:07:37 PM)

quote]ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Actually, they make the same point.

You think money, currency, and physically backed currency are alike. They are not.


really?

I forgot more about money than you ever knew and that is purely fucking made up bullshit.


Good grief! Some people... Just pretending they are not ignoramuses is not enough, they ridicule others who actually knows shit. We are on floating currency. The value of money is created by consensus through currency exchange not backed by anything, hence the recent hullabaloo w/ China about the RMB.



Rule -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 11:03:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subfever
I'd appreciate if someone could explain how we're doing something more here than just entertaining ourselves and stroking egos with these highly devisive topics... because I'm surely not seeing it.

The pickings are slim, but they are there nevertheless. For example from posts made by RealOne I deduced how WTC1&2 were demolished exactly and was inspired to do a google on how WTC7 was designed to collapse as it did.



Rule -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/21/2010 11:07:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Outgoing Clinton Administration personnel informed the Bush administration of the possibility of Al Qaeda striking the US with aircraft at a future date, AND Bush's own intel people told Bush that there was good intel that Al Qaeda was going to strike in the near future, using aircraft.

Bush replied to his own people, "alright, you covered your ass."

Then ignored the report.

So there was a conspiracy to give the intel people a leave-jail-for-free card. I knew that already. That was very obvious.



Termyn8or -> RE: 9/11 Intelligence Warnings!!!! EveryOne Knew But The US???? (4/22/2010 1:20:43 AM)

"They are both the same size, printed on the same material using the same inks and processes"

Just a quick correction as I was reading through.

They are not the same size, in fact each denomination of US currency is a differnt size. IIRC higher demoninations are shorter but wider, thus making even the best counterfeiting detectable. Like if you bleach a bunch of ones and print them as twenties, first of all if you got half a brain you print them as old twenties, but it won't fool a change machine. It accurately measures the bill and only looks for certain clues on the printing to dtermine that it is indeed currency. The denomination is determined in the machine by the size of the bill.

That means if you wash a five and print a twenty on it, and figure the best way to unqueer it is to use a change machine, like in a laundromat, it will give you change for the five.

Don't bother even asking how I know shit like this OK ?

T



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