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stella41b -> Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 5:47:19 AM)

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Hang 'Em High - The campaign for a hung parliament

Throw out the big two parties, Vote for change

London - 21 April 2010

"A hung parliament is our best chance for serious democratic political reform, including a fair voting system that ensures all shades of voter opinion are represented in parliament. It is the most likely way to secure a government that has majority public support," said Peter Tatchell, human rights campaigner.
"A representative parliament and government is a human rights issue. Democracy is about a fair voting system and the right of people elect a government that commands majority support.
That's why I am supporting the Hang 'Em campaign for a hung parliament:http://hang-em.com/
"A big vote for the Greens, Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru and the SNP is vital to break the poisonous stranglehold of the big two parties that have ruled Britain for 50 years without ever winning a majority of the popular vote.
"The last thing we need is more one-party rule by a government with minority support. For over half a century, we've had governments with a majority of seats based on a minority of votes. The rot has got to stop.
"A hung parliament would prevent one party ramming through unpopular policies against the will of the majority. It would add to the pressure for serious political democratisation to renew our body politic. It is our best hope for progressive social change.
"A fair voting system would empower the liberal, left and green majority. It probably would have prevented the poll tax and British involvement in the Iraq war:http://www.petertatchell.net/democracy/reformthevotetoempowertheleft.html
"The first-past-the-post voting system is political corruption on a monumental scale. It frustrates the will of the majority. Millions of votes don't count. In 1983, 1997 and 2005, it produced big majorities in parliament, based on only 36% to 43% of the popular vote. This is not democracy. This is why we need democratic renewal. A hung parliament is the outcome that is most likely to produce this renewal," said Mr Tatchell.
Join the Hang 'Em Facebook group here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hang-em/109329709098600
See the Hang 'Em website here: http://hang-em.com/
The Hang 'Em campaign aims to bring about a hung parliament - a parliament that is balanced, where no party has overall control.
It is the first campaign of its kind in the world. The internet has been previously used to support party campaigns but it has never been used to challenge the choice on offer and produce a balanced parliament. It comes as politicians (1), economists (2) and opinion polls (3) suggest a groundswell of support for a 'hung' Parliament.
The aim of this non-partisan campaign is to bring about a hung parliament with as many smaller parties and independents as possible, from the Greens and the SNP to Plaid and the Lib Dems.
It's call is "to frustrate the bosses of the Labour and Tory parties" and open up British politics to "a wider range of MPs and opinions." The message is this: "We have got to renew democracy in Britain. They won't, so hang 'em until they do".
The method: Hang 'Em supported candidates will be chosen by asking four questions:

1. Realistically, could they win?
2. Are they neither Labour nor Tory loyalists?
3. Do they have a record of independence, rebellion and integrity?
4. Are they from a smaller party or independent (the smaller the better)?
The candidates will be listed on the Hang 'Em website.
Hang 'Em has been started by an informal (and growing) ad hoc network of grassroots volunteers. (4)
Anthony Barnett, former director of Charter 88, said: "The aim of Hang 'Em is not ideological. It is not about voting for a candidate whose views you agree with (and is likely to lose). It's about voting for people with integrity and character - the more independent the better - including Tories and Labour candidates with a record of rebellion. It's about joining up with people across Britain, from right and left and centre, who feel the same way. It's about starting to turn anger into something positive."
Jonathan Bartley from the progressive Christian thinktank Ekklesia said: "Many are furious with a political class who they feel have waged war without consent, spent taxes to line their pockets, invaded privacy with cameras and lied about nearly all of it. And nor will they let people decide the issues central to democracy. We have got to renew the political system in Britain. A hung parliament would be a more representative Parliament, and there is now a clear political and economic case for it."
Helen Lambert web-designer from PoliceStateUK said: "The two parties have become ever more complacent while reducing MPs to their playthings, we need to break politics open and the quickest way is to hang parliament."

ENDS


[Note to Mods: posted in its entirety with the permission and full agreement of the author Peter Tatchell]

I am supporting this as I feel more than ever in the UK it's time for both social unity and change.

Over 30 years have gone by with either a Labour or Conservative government with the other forming the main opposition and the only consistency in those 30 years is that both parties have served the interests of only those who make enough money.

There's much more to life than either making money or needing money but this is the only thing which unites us as a nation. It's not enough. Nor is it that important. Every single social change we have gone through in the last 30 years has cost us more than money - it's cost us other people.

We cannot afford to be a divided society between left and right, nor can we continue calling ourselves a society if many people aren't part of that society. Changes won't happen by thinking about them, nor will they happen by just talking about them, but only when we decide to be a part of that change and to get up and do something which contributes to that change.

Change requires an open mind and an open heart.




LadyEllen -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 8:33:44 AM)

The Lord our Market spake, and said
Thou shalt but choose from blue or red
And shouldst thou dare another hue
I, the Lord, shall temper you
My interest rates shall smite you sore
Your currency be worth no more
And still the people Him defied
Whose very name they now despised
And voted none for blue or red
But held up Vince and Nick instead

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LadyEllen -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 5:01:52 PM)

I'm convinced its true - the US is still under English sovereignty (or something). This being so, I should like to invite all liberally minded American citizens (Canadians too - it must apply to you if it applies to the Americans) to register to vote in our election on 6th May (or May 6th, if you prefer), and to vote Liberal Democrat.

This announcement not promoted by the Monster Raving Looney Party of Great Britain.

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Aneirin -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 5:09:27 PM)

I already decided that long ago, fed up with blue and red, would like green, but yellow will do. So far no canvassers at my door, just like last time, they couldn't be bothered, but even without, Cable to me seems the best option for a chancellor that knows his onions and he does not come without the fair man; Nick Clegg, the rest can go and fuck themselves.




LadyEllen -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 5:13:40 PM)

Canvassing is a major problem A - as is campaign funding in general. Not enough members and those we have are mostly too old to be out walking the streets and too poor to donate substantial sums. Oh to have the members and funding of the Tories or Labour.

You could maybe volunteer? All help gratefully welcomed I can assure you

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Aneirin -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 5:18:27 PM)

Me volunteer, I am the local nut, no one would take me seriously.

I was rather hoping labour or conservative may appear at my door, so I could dissuade them from even thinking to try running for government.




LadyEllen -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 5:27:38 PM)

even nuts welcome A - posting leaflets, stuffing envelopes and such anyone can do

its vital the Tories dont win - and they need to pick up several Lib Dem seats in your region to win.

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Aneirin -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/21/2010 5:44:55 PM)

Well, the pub I use, there is no tories there, tonight it was on everyone's lips, LibDem is the way forward, for everyome has had enough of what we have had in our lifetimes, this time change is sought, and no way are we falling for the parties of old who have secretly become something else we later come to despise, labour, new labour have cooked their goose, there is no going back. Conservative was thatcher, labour was dissapointment, time to give the underdog a chance to bark free. For me, no more wasted or protest votes, this time I feel it matters more than at any other time, the fair man it is.




DCWoody -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 7:00:45 AM)

Can't see the tories picking up many LD seats, they'll lose more to Ld than they'll win I reckon...even if the current poll boost subsides somewhat. I don't reckon Lds need to worry about defending at all really, should be going on the attack.

Re:OP, sound good to me, in an ideal world the ballots wouldn't have party tags. No-one going in and voting for whoever had cons/lab/green/lib/snp next to their name....they'd actually have to recognise the individual.




SohCahToa -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 9:53:09 AM)

With a Hung parliament nothing gets done and nobody has to take responsibility for nothing getting done.

It wouldn't therefore be the best outcome for the UK, a clear mandate is always the way to go.




LadyEllen -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 9:59:44 AM)

on the contrary, a hung Parliament is the only way we will ever get electoral reform, and that is the key to unlocking all the other problems we have

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SohCahToa -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 10:12:02 AM)

Electoral reform is a liberal democrat fantasy.

I think such issues come secondary to how the country is run (at the moment). I'm not a great follower of Ken Clarke but I myself thought what he said before he said it i.e. that business needs confidence in the UK economy's leadership from a single , organised voice not ad-hoc agreements between key individuals.

Thinking politicians from different parties can work together is pure fantasy, just look at the yearlong US healthcare reform.

A hung parliament scares me more than a liberal democrat government and that is saying something for me.

I stopped short at conservative government because I realise this scares me more than a hung parliament.




DCWoody -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 2:30:53 PM)

In hung parliaments the things that everyone agrees need to be done (ie deficit), usually get done..with the hangers all trying to blame each other. It's the argumental things (ie trident) that don't get anywhere. With one big overriding issue, economy/deficit/debt, I reckon hung would be a good thing.




SohCahToa -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 2:35:35 PM)

Even if two parties could agree upon a priority say (the economy) they still then differ on the means to fix it i.e. stimulus or tax cuts or both or nothing.




DCWoody -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 2:49:10 PM)

In some cases yes, but not in this one....none of the big 3 are talking about continuing the stimulus past this year, they're all talking about spending cuts, they're all expected to raise VAT if they get in. Only thing hung parliament does is allow them to try to blame the other guys...




SohCahToa -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 3:03:08 PM)

For me the feeling almost seems a bit like "Oh Labour have had thirteen years we must get chage but we don't want a Tory Government."

So now people are having fantasies about party whips disappearing and being replaced with consensus.

The sad fact is, all the negativity associated with the Labour party is either associated with Tony Blair's wars or the global economy. We kind of kid ourselves that we could have weathered it if only we had a better banking structure. Now the Tories talk of thirteen years of failure; are we so stupid as to not recognise that for a long period of that time the economic policies were working fine and the country was rapidly growing?




DCWoody -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 3:20:47 PM)

Nope, by far the biggest criticism of labours britain (in my circles) is the nanny state, the erosion of civil liberties.




Aneirin -> RE: Hang 'Em High - The Campaign For A Hung Parliament (4/22/2010 8:14:53 PM)

Hey, a hung parliament is different, we have not had one for a while, so let's give it a go.

If we were lucky enough to get one, I suppose it would send a clear message to the purple two that the voting public have had enough of the past.




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