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Aneirin -> Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 7:49:59 PM)

Polish Potatoes (Notification) (England) Order 2004
No person shall, in the course of business, import into England potatoes which he knows to be or has reasonable cause to suspect to be Polish potatoes.
Just one example from a list of twenty new offences the British people can commit under the present Labour term of office, more can be found here, but that is a miniscule list compared to the truth of it all as online blogger; Alex Wilcock of Love and Liberty reveals, more like 4,300 up to the10th of January 2010, that is 4,300 new ways a Briton can be called a criminal since 1997, no wonder our prisons are full.




pahunkboy -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 7:53:52 PM)

We need less laws- not more.




Marini -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 7:55:14 PM)

lol, you Brits.
Where is Kittn?





ThatDaveGuy69 -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 7:56:28 PM)

Is there a problem with the Polish potato crop? Or is this a protectionist move for UK spud farmers?

~Dave




DCWoody -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:03:47 PM)

IMO it started during Thatchers time.....the hatred of her put parliament into a war mindset, whereas ostensibly the function of legislatory scrutiny has continued, in reality it's been little more than a competition, Labour using it's majority to force through everything, the oppositions trying to prevent almost everything...the whips working tactics to get stuff through/stop it, rather than actually trying to make good legislation. It's been a long criticism, of Blairs government in particular....possibly because Brown has had so much else to criticise....that legislation coming from the commons is usually poorly thought out and generally low quality, it's usually the unelected house of lords that does the best work making laws functional, cutting out the stupider parts...if they can.

I'm cautiously hoping the encouragement from Clegg to work together, at least on the economy,....or possibly having a hung parliament in general....will prompt them to actually do their job a little rather than play politics all the time.....additionally, the increasing viewership of BBC parliament live can only help in this matter. Wait and see what the new parliament brings....and in the mean time, comfort yourself with the knowledge that most cops on the street can't recognise/don't pay attention to more than 1% of offenses on the statute book.




DCWoody -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:08:56 PM)

@Dave, IIRC, Polish potatoes have always been banned due to some potato disease or other, that was just a re-banning, necessitated by Polands ascension to the EU in '04.




Aneirin -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:09:24 PM)

I have always understood the police are blind to crime, unless it just happens to be flavour of the month with the politicians and the police definately do not like to be informed that it is a criminal offence not to investigate a complaint made by a member of the public, in fact if members of the public did know and quote this fact when complaining to the police, they might actually take their job seriously.




DCWoody -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:13:11 PM)

I think the police can't be bothered with, and/or can't remember/don't know about, using-the-wrong-lightbulb crimes unless the govt/locals are pushing particularly....and tend to stick to the usual....burglary, vandalism, etc....




Real0ne -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:27:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Polish Potatoes (Notification) (England) Order 2004
No person shall, in the course of business, import into England potatoes which he knows to be or has reasonable cause to suspect to be Polish potatoes.
Just one example from a list of twenty new offences the British people can commit under the present Labour term of office, more can be found here, but that is a miniscule list compared to the truth of it all as online blogger; Alex Wilcock of Love and Liberty reveals, more like 4,300 up to the10th of January 2010, that is 4,300 new ways a Briton can be called a criminal since 1997, no wonder our prisons are full.




yeh look at all that derivative revenue




DCWoody -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:34:08 PM)

I literally do not understand that comment real. Though probably I don't need to.




pahunkboy -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:36:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DCWoody

I literally do not understand that comment real. Though probably I don't need to.


It means the entire Polish govt got into a rickety broken down air craft.  This after Poland offers to loan the IMF money- not the reverse.




LadyEllen -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 8:58:50 PM)

Where did you say you finished your training for the diplomatic corp again?

E




Termyn8or -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 10:56:28 PM)

FR

Regardless, things like this prove my point, and that of the tinfoil hatters. Let me just coin that term right now because I am feeling froggy and am NOT happy with the world.

Harry Rosenthal was quoted to have said if you don't like paying for tomatoes we can make it illegal to grow tomatoes, or something to that effect. Well now lookie here, now potatoes are illegal. Granted only a certain kind of potatoes in a certain country, but still true unless the OP is a total liar and bigot like me along with anyone he quotes or cites.

Well now. What if I got some Polish potato seeds and grew them in England, would that be illegal or not ? Same substance. The law says that substance is illegal. They don't have to give the Brits a reason, what they say goes. Know why ? Because the Brits are disarmed and the PTB are going to take every bit of wealth they can from the commoners there. And the Brits think that everyhing is just fine because they were born into it.

The tinfoilers here asserted that they cannot be charged for copies of legal documents, the root argument being if they can charge a dime they can charge a million dollars. That means if they can make pot illegal, thay can make anything illegal, down to the last fucking blade of grass.

Does anyone have even one iota of hope of understanding what I am saying or should I just drop it. The point is once the power is given or taken, it will expand. The PTB will expand until they are so overextended that they become vulnerable. Then the result will be revolution as history proves. The only problem in England is that they will have to do it with stone skins and bear knives. * So it is bound to take a bit longer. The founding Fathers of this country meant for the second amendment to assure that if people could not get redress at the ballot box they could get it at the cartridge box. This made the US unique in the world, but we the people are losing ground all the time.

I asserted in another thread that people here are descendent from those who ran away from the problems in the old country, but a sane Man always reconsiders his opinions. I asserted that the problems just followed those who ran away, but now I am starting to think that the problem exists everywhere, to wit - that they brought it with them.

* that is in reference to a statement by a character named Spock on Star Trek in an episode called IIRC The Gateway To Forever. Caught in the past building some sort of compter interface the landlady showed up and asked WTF is that ? Spock replied "I am attempting to construct an mnemonic memory _______ using stone knives and bear skins. The stone skins and bear knives phrase is my version of a slightly more advanced Spoonerism based on that line.

T




DCWoody -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 11:01:36 PM)

You're reading way to much into a ban on importing diseased potatos. Believe it or not, even hundreds of years later, the potato famine is kinda a hot subject.




Termyn8or -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 11:27:36 PM)

Are you accusing me of overthinking ? Thank you for the compliment. Overthinking has saved me alot of trouble over the years and I am glad when someone asserts that I can still do it.

T




DCWoody -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/22/2010 11:29:50 PM)

Not overthinking, more jumping to conclusions....and really weird communist conclusions at that.




Termyn8or -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/23/2010 12:48:02 AM)

Then riddle me this batman. Polish potatoes are illegal to import into England. Why do they grow them then ? If they are supposed to eat them or export them to other countries, how can they be dangerous ? And if they are not dangerous why would they be illegal if the spirit of the law was actually to protect the people ?

If you think that's a tough one, I gotem that makes this look like nothing. If that is so why is that so ? I don't really expect an answer. But sometimes the question is more telling than the answer.

T




RCdc -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/23/2010 1:37:29 AM)

I don't have a problem with polish potatoes being banned.
Do you understand why they are?  And many of the other laws that you included - like the squirral one?  As a person as 'earthy' as yourself, I would have thought that you would support it as well.

the.dark.




RCdc -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/23/2010 1:41:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Then riddle me this batman. Polish potatoes are illegal to import into England. Why do they grow them then ? If they are supposed to eat them or export them to other countries, how can they be dangerous ? And if they are not dangerous why would they be illegal if the spirit of the law was actually to protect the people ?

If you think that's a tough one, I gotem that makes this look like nothing. If that is so why is that so ? I don't really expect an answer. But sometimes the question is more telling than the answer.

T


Termy.
The import of organic materials is something that the majority of countries have in place to secure the survival of local crops, produce and wildlife.  It's in the same way that say - New Zealand doesn't allow honey.

the.dark.




Termyn8or -> RE: Polish potatoes unlawful in Britain (4/23/2010 2:27:50 AM)

So that indicates the spirit of the law is what then ?

T




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