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cadenas -> RE: GOP candidate’s ‘microchip an illegal’ comment draws outrage (4/29/2010 7:18:45 AM)
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
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ORIGINAL: cadenas
Actually, that is bound to fail, too. The only real way to solve the immigration crisis is to fix the LEGAL immigration system.
When we take 96% of applicants "sorry, you aren't even eligible to get in line" - and those 4% we tell "sorry, you have to wait 5 years before you are eligible to even visit your SPOUSE!" (Family 2A category, one of the highest-priority categories) and up to 23 years for other family members - well, then we really shouldn't be surprised that people say "screw that".
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
You will not solve illegal immigration by any other means than by firstly seriously pursuing and punishing those who employ illegal immigrants, and only secondly deporting those illegal immigrants discovered (but not by way of the "Arizona Technique").
Cadenas, we're taking in three million people a year now. That's like adding a city the size of Philedelphia every year! Also, *we* decide who gets in.
If it were up to me I wouldn't take in anymore people from Mexico, Central America or the Carribean countries as they're the biggest offenders.
Everyone who wants to come to the U.S. simply cannot be accomodated. They need to have a plan b.
And what if we decide to end all immigration for ten or twenty years like we have before?
I think your information is quite a bit off. I've heard some of your claims before, from some Oxicontin-addled radio talk show hosts.
A couple of facts: the overall number of legal immigrants annually is between half a million and just a bit over one million. The numbers were actually pretty up-and-down because of the complete meltdown of the legal immigration system. The average is somewhere around 800,000.
For comparison, in the 1920s, we had a third of our current population - and yet accepted more immigrants (immigration was in unlimited numbers until 1921, when the first quota was created).
And we were able to accommodate 2 million Irish in the 1840s just fine, even though we had just 20 million Americans. That shows that we can easily absorb 30 million immigrants.
As for the quota: the relevant number for Mexico is 25,600. That's how many Mexicans can immigrate legally - and they still need to be married to somebody who already is legally in the USA, or have a parent or adult child in the USA. Engineers, teachers etc. may also qualify for employment-based immigration. Overall, actual annual immigration quota is 226,000 family based plus 140,000 employment based. There are some quota-exempt groups, but since they don't affect the waiting time, that's irrelevant.
Also, you omitted some of the biggest offenders: Canada and Europe also send quite a few illegal immigrants.
Of course we get to decide who gets in. What's your point? We can be either smart about it, or we can refuse to be smart. So far, we've been more like a little kid throwing a tantrum than actually being smart about it.
Oh, and for your last claim: we have actually never stopped all immigration, let alone for a decade or two. If we tried - sure, nothing wrong with that. We'd just have to live with the consequences of that decision, too. It wouldn't be pretty.
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