CuriousPuppy -> RE: Hypnosis (5/3/2010 5:14:33 PM)
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ORIGINAL: reynardfox Giving someone the freedom to do what they really want to do when they are normally riddled with guilt and anxiety can only be a good thing. I would view it as a bad thing. For the length of the trance they do stuff they normally would not do. And afterward they are confronted by the fact that they crossed their own boundaries, broke their own ethical code. The guilt afterward would be much worse and there would be justified anger at the hypnotist who took advantage of them. Where is the consent given freely here? A lot of the problem with hypnosis boils down to the fact that most of what people know/believe is urban legends and just plain nonsense. A good bit of what remains can be attributed to a mix of the fact that people tend to talk in general terms and that hypnotists will often let some people believe some of the slightly outlandish stuff they already believe for various reasons that would take a huge block of text to explain. Sometimes when a hypnotist talks about using hypnosis to help a sub/subject get past the guilt & fear they may have towards a given activity, it's a matter of helping them get past it because the subject wants to. To take a relatively PG rated example (and I'll try to stick with them), it's not uncommon for someone to say they "really really really want to give oral sex/swallow/whatever, but they can't take the taste/it's too icky to think about/etc and wish they could get past that". A hypnotist can help with that, it's not any more wrong than helping them get past a fear of spiders, clowns, or heights... in fact it's a fairly similar process in many cases. Would it be wrong for the hypnotist to make the subject believe he/she is their husband/wife/Dominant/partner instead of whoever they were in order to do something sexual?... yes of course... Would it be wrong for someone's husband/wife/Dominant/partner to make someone with a fantasy about being with a stranger believe they were with a stranger at that moment?... probably less so than "honey I really want to have sex with a stranger, do you mind?", especially if it's setup in such a way that the subject would know the truth after the fact to avoid potential guilt issues. If a subject wants to engage in something a little less safe, needle play/breath play/knife play/etc, but isn't ready to move up to the real thing or would never actually engage in it... a hypnotist can help it happen without the risks. I've used a marker in place of a needle on a subject who wanted it, and they loved it to the point of asking me to do it asking me to do it again at other points in time. A hypnotist can make things a bit more safe through various means. Stories about subs being afraid to let their dominant down (edit: in the sub's own mind) and use their safeword when considering it, and other similar things, are not uncommon. Likewise for those same subs to feel bad about using that safeword. Giving the subject a strong urge to say green when something is enjoyable and yellow/red as things progress away from there isn't outside the realm of possibility. Making them feel safe, comfortable, and like they are doing something important when honestly saying those last two is all that much better. Setting them in a state of trance where you can fiddle with the speed and intensity of events the hypnotist is painting inside their mind (with or without physical aspects) to help the subject be aware of the sort of things you want them to watch for.... sure the Dominant should be watching for various signs and making sure to avoid certain physical things like cutting off circulation, but having the subject simply blurt out "toes!" before they can realize it if their toes tingle can be a good thing. Yes there are some very unethical things a hypnotist could do, but the same goes for any other form of dominant who has little interest in the sub's general well being. The premise that a subject is some robotic slave that does and experiences anything the hypnotist tells them to is incorrect at best, especially since the subject is aware of what's being said to them at the time. Even if the subject doesn't remember anything about what happened to them after the fact, they were still aware of what was being said while in trance. A subject can and will say no, even when the suggestion was in reference to something the subject wants to do but isn't ready. No I'm not ready, no I'm scared, no I've changed my mind, no it's too much, no this isn't quite what I had in mind, no I don't want to anymore. The hypnotist can gently smooth over those fears and doubts to help the subject be ready, to help twist the situation to what the subject did want, to find out what the subject wanted instead... it's not so easy to change your mind while the candle wax is falling through the air towards that spot the submissive said they wanted wax dripped on. Attempting to use brute force in hypnosis and force the subject past a no will result in the subject dropping out of trance and responding much like they probably would if it were a physical thing. Finally, you can do some truly enjoyable & amusing things with hypnosis. Making a masochist numb to pain before a paddling would be difficult (but possible) without hypnosis, making them suddenly feel each and every strike from the paddle they were robbed of all at once when you snap your fingers would be impossible without it. Making someone orgasm on command without hypnosis is possible, although those methods are just a long drawn out form of hypnosis; doing it with hypnosis allows it to be done faster and with more control... think of it as the difference between being able to install a new doorknob verses being able to rekey a new doorknob to match the deadbolt, both get the jub done, one has more control than the other however. Making someone drunk or drugged is fairly simple with hypnosis, sure it's not good for a scene... but making them drunk while playing DDR is fun... Making them feel like how it felt when that percocet kicked in after the last one the dentist gave them ran out when they swallow that tylenol you give them? that's an entirely different level of "oh god yes".
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