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RE: A different type of scam - 5/8/2010 2:34:08 PM

ThatDaveGuy69

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Simple solution: all new accounts cost $5 to open. 2nd account with same e-mail address: $10; 3rd: $15 and so on.

If you can't come up with a one-time $5 feee then you don't really need the site. Even in the depths of my unemployment I could always find $5 for something I really wanted.

That would also allow for trace-ability by CM. Of course that assumes they actually care. I think it's pretty clear that they don't.

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RE: A different type of scam - 5/8/2010 2:57:57 PM

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RE: A different type of scam - 5/8/2010 3:07:05 PM

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First off, scammers will happily pay membership fees for dating sites. They used phished credit card/ paypal accounts for this. Pay sites actually attract better scammers, as many people think the fees they pay mean that there aren't scammers on the site. What would happen though, is that people who prefer anonymity and to not be linked to a BDSM website or "traced" will leave.

As for multiple accounts from the same email address.... 5 minutes on yahoo, hotmail, or gmail... poof! Nifty new email address for free. Most scammers keep 10+ email addys on the go at any given time, and some have so many that they have to keep folders with the addresses in them.

$.05 please. Next!

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RE: A different type of scam - 5/8/2010 3:37:16 PM

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It takes a bit more these days to open a g-mail account - at least THEY care. Tracking IP addresses works even better but I didn't really want to explain that. Yes, you can spoof an IP but it takes effort.

As for tracing to a card - you can buy a V/MC gift card with no strings attached. My insurance agent sent me one as a thank you.

It's a lot like protecting your car form being stolen: you have some sort of alarm, maybe you buy The Club, etc. These will deter the amatures. All I'm saying is that CM owes it to the people who actually use and enjoy this site to protect it.

So what are YOUR brilliant ideas for cleaning up this mess?

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RE: A different type of scam - 5/8/2010 10:48:00 PM

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I don't know why this is, but the spammers and scammers that contact me have been getting more active and aggressive over the past few months.

Now Steven, I told you, that's not spam that's corned beef hash LOL Actually I've just been taking all the ones that I get & forward them on to you, this way it looks like you're getting more than you actually are. I didn't want them, so I needed to send them somewhere LOL

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RE: A different type of scam - 5/8/2010 11:57:47 PM

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It takes a bit more these days to open a g-mail account - at least THEY care.

LOL! Bullshit. Just for you, I went and opened a brand new, anonymous gmail account. Total time from start to finish? 3 minutes.

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Tracking IP addresses works even better but I didn't really want to explain that. Yes, you can spoof an IP but it takes effort.

It isn't hard to get around, and scammers will certainly do so to get to a place where the magas feel safe. In fact, some do it as a matter of course, to keep their vics from doing an IP trace and twigging to the scam. I'm obviously not going to post how, esp since you seem to already know at least one or two ways.

You seem to think that scammers won't make an effort, which is laughable... even if it is understandable, given the kindergarten level scammers we usually deal with here.

Please attempt to wrap your head around this- in some places, scamming is considered a legitimate, full time, and honorable profession; in others, it is highly organized, mafia controlled, and tied to various other crimes (see my first post on this thread). If that shocks you, then you really need to bone up a bit.

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As for tracing to a card - you can buy a V/MC gift card with no strings attached. My insurance agent sent me one as a thank you.

You were the one who mentioned 'trace-ability' (sic), not me.
I believe that I already pointed out that scammers are quite happy to 'pay' for dating site memberships. Please note that when the phishing is reported, the card company or paypal will reverse the charge, screwing the merchant... that would be CM.
Also, from what I've read in the other 100,000 threads like this, most of the members do not have any desire for this to become a pay site in any way.

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It's a lot like protecting your car form being stolen: you have some sort of alarm, maybe you buy The Club, etc. These will deter the amatures.

It is likely to deter the amateurs, while attracting the professionals. Most really successful scammers don't bother with free sites, they target pay sites. Do you really want to see a better class of scammer around here? I don't.

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All I'm saying is that CM owes it to the people who actually use and enjoy this site to protect it.

CM's owners don't owe you, me or any other user doodly squat. Get over yourself.
That said, with the amount of energy you have expended bitching about CM, you could have made your own, completely scammer free (LOL) BDSM personals site by now. It certainly doesn't sound like you enjoy this site all that much to me.

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So what are YOUR brilliant ideas for cleaning up this mess?

First off, I don't really see 'this mess'... nor do most others here who are looking for real people, apparently. I have to wonder which profiles you are searching to find so many scammers. 18-24 y/o female 'submissives' under a certain weight with pics, perhaps? Extra points for bi? Blank or single sentence profiles A-ok if the pic shows nice tits or looks like a model? I hate to break this to you, but CM is in no way responsible for your delusions of grandeur.

The current scammers tend to certain demographics/ commonalities in their profiles and emails that make them hella easy to spot and pretty easy to avoid. I happen to like it that way. Block, delete, move on.

As for a solution, this site is targeted for one reason... because people here send money, despite the hella obvious "DO NOT SEND OTHER USERS MONEY FOR ANY REASON" warning at the top of every cmail, and links to information on internet scams. As long as that is true, we will have scammers here. Should the owners of this site ask, I might have a suggestion or two for them, but the fact remains that predators won't hunt where there is no game.

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