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Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/3/2010 11:36:20 PM   
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A Russian friend said,

“I don't quite understand why Putin was not mentioned as a possible culprit - is he loosing popularity in the West?”

"Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randall-amster/was-the-gulf-oil-spill-an_b_560014.html



Black Gold -- the Lifeblood of War

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randall-amster/was-the-gulf-oil-spill-an_b_560014.html

and this

"Rig had history of spills, fires before big 1"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100430/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_the_rig

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/4/2010 12:22:55 AM   
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The US today is functionally all the evil things they used to scare us with about russia when I was a kid 50 years ago.


"US Orders Media Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing of Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig"

We certainly ought to question the "consensus reality" version of any major event communicated back to us by the corporate media.

Total media control.

members of Congress have called on Halliburton "to provide all documents relating to 'the possibility or risk of an explosion

all the old familiar war machine names



any time you hear of terrorism 2 names should immediately pop into mind.

MI6 and CIA and their satellite pals. et al


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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/4/2010 2:22:19 AM   
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"We did it for the insurance gov'"

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001, Licensed To Spill

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/4/2010 5:29:29 AM   
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Why is it impossible to believe that the damn thing was a fucking accident?  Rigs have blown out before, and will do so again.

The fact that the fire on the rig was above the waterline indicates an upperworks explosion, not a torpedo.

The north Koreans do not have anything in their navy that could have gotten halfway around the world, undetected and done this is another major problem.


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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/4/2010 7:30:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

"We did it for the insurance gov'"

Bond, Ellen Bond
001, Licensed To Spill



I smell money penny

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/4/2010 7:32:43 AM   
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Yeah we fund nothing but shoddy stuff.

We love broken down shit.

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/4/2010 6:20:30 PM   
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I agree with you it was an accident. But it was a preventable accident. I am very pleased Russians realize it was an accident and they understand these right wing conspiracy theories are ridiculous unlike some Americans.

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/4/2010 6:55:55 PM   
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quote:

During its nine years at sea, the Deepwater Horizon oil rig operated by BP suffered a series of spills, fires — even a collision — because of equipment failure, human error and bad weather. It also drilled the world's deepest offshore well.But Deepwater Horizon's lasting legacy will undoubtedly be the environmental damage it caused after it exploded and sank, killing 11 crew and releasing an estimated 210,000 gallons of oil a day into the Gulf of Mexico.What likely destroyed the rig in a ball of fire last week was a failure — or multiple failures — 5,000 feet below. That's where drilling equipment met the sea bed in a complicated construction of pipes, concrete and valves that gave way in a manner that no one has yet been able to explain.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/economy/oil-rigs-record-of-fires-spills-considered-normal-for-offshore-drilling-industry-92544379.html
quote:

Another disaster waiting? Shell Oil running "sister rig" in Gulf nearly identical to ill-fated Deepwater Horizon Despite an army of reporters and officials investigating the Deepwater Horizon oil rig disaster, one item has curiously escaped much attention: Shell Oil is running a nearly identical "sister rig" in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico, which may have the same design flaws that led to the current unfolding disaster.

The Deepwater Nautilus rig was built just a year after Deepwater Horizon, in the same shipyard for the same company implicated in the April 20th disaster. It's also drilling in the same Mississippi Canyon prospecting area of the Gulf where Horizon, the rig being used by British Petroleum, met its demise.


http://www.southernstudies.org/2010/05/another-disaster-waiting-shell-oil-running-sister-rig-in-gulf.html


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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/5/2010 6:54:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

I agree with you it was an accident. But it was a preventable accident. I am very pleased Russians realize it was an accident and they understand these right wing conspiracy theories are ridiculous unlike some Americans.


Well of course brain. Those poor right wingers just don't have your superior intelligence to guide them. You just keep those links coming brain, maybe someday, someone will listen.


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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/25/2010 6:18:15 PM   
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I don't know if its true but an article said that neither BP nor the US government really knows how to fix that big whole in the ground to stop the oil. Looks like all those "experts" are in fact the most incapable and clueless people ever (they just shrug and let it flow who cares not them). What they are doing is worse than the 911 attack and the war in Iraq because it took millions of years to create the sea animals and BP will make them become extinct in just a few weeks. 
Not only the oil in the water but also the oil gazes will spread all over the world and we will breeth oil and it will rain down on our corn, oat and wheat, on our salad, ... on everything, on the grass the cattle eats and we eat it with our beef steak later.
Probably most people will get a cancer in the next 10 years and probably if this continues like that and those BP people keep on doing nothing against it cause they are such big experts who have no clue so they just sit and wait, then this might endanger agriculture. Nobody has ever destroyed our planet more than BP and nobody could ever care less then them. Therefore some people gathered to boykott BP (there are several boykott websites in the internet). Some articles said that they knew about the risk that this could happen as the technology on the rig was not appropriate but ignored it long before - because who cares not them. Also some experts say that the amout of spill is deliberate disinformation and that in fact the amounts are much higher. http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/computers/blogs/dirty-facts-about-the-bp-oil-catastrophe  http://mydd.com/users/pravin/posts/is-obama-just-clueless Should a company which is totally clueless about their own business and a company which could not care less about the death of people and animals and damages to nature still be operative ? Why is their boss not in jail ? And why can they open more rigs with the same technology ?  Because the US is dependent of them and has no replacement for them an article says so basically because politicians are dependent of large corporations they can do as they please. Democracy was yesterday, today the corporations rule - and we pay. I bet they will just finance the damages they have caused by higher prices to the customers and in the end we pay as usual for the mess they have caused. They were even impertinent enough to ask for volunteers (people who work unpaid !) to clear up the mess BP caused on their shores. So much they don't care. Why is the government doing nothing against this ? Is it that they just cannot as the article said because they are so dependent on the big corporations ? Or has there been a bribe ?

How much the CEO of BP "cares" also about people with a wicked smile shows this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b6J7LRUTFY
with the title BP's CEO Tony Hayward: 'We had too many people that were working to save the world'
 
Maybe that's now the right course of Tony Hayward to destroy the world.
 
So people wonder what kind of business this guy is running.
 
Did he ever say that he is sorry for the people and animals who died and the famillies who will loose their existance because of him ? I could not find a single "sorry" anywhere. But that article "Trying to shirk responsibility for spill, BP CEO predicts ‘lots of illegitimate’ lawsuits because ‘this is America.’
On Monday, Hayward told Good Morning America, “This wasn’t our accident. … This was a drilling rig operated by another company. It was their people, their systems, their processes. We are responsible not for the accident.”

So trying to get away with lies seems to be more business like to that guy than taking on responsability for his acts.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/06/hayward-america-illegitimate/

Tony Hayward, BP CEO: Gulf Oil Spill 'Relatively Tiny'
(oh yeah we can see how tiny it is, just the biggest pollution we ever had on our planet but for him its tiny maybe he meant his sense of responsability and bad conscience which is tiny)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/14/bp-ceo-gulf-oil-spill-rel_n_576215.html

Is this guy deliberately lieing or is he so far from reality / close to reality loss or is it that he just really doesn't know what he is talking about and has absolutely no clue of his business hence just saying random things people would love to hear ?

Hayward told Fox News sister network Sky News that he is largely unconcerned:


I think the environmental impact of this disaster is likely to be very, very modest. It is impossible to say and we will mount, as part of the aftermath, a very detailed environmental assessment as we go forward. We’re going to do that with some of the science institutions in the U.S. But everything we can see at the moment suggests that the overall environmental impact of this will be very, very modest.
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/05/19/hayward-modest-oilpocalypse/


Between the biggest environmental impact ever and a very modes impact lays a huge gap. So where comes reality into the game here ? If reality is still important for such a man.

But who cares the suffering fishes, birds who die, who cares the cruelty ? Not him.
The only thing which counts is: PROFIT
BP's Profit Ambitions: increase annual profits by more than $3 billion over the next several years and to expand production as much as two percent a year through 2015.  (and maybe cause more environmental desasters)
http://industry.bnet.com/energy/10003323/bps-profit-ambitions-an-oil-majors-guide-to-adding-another-3-billion-to-its-bottom-line/
Wondering what will he do with all that money when our food is oil poisend from oily rain ?

But as the CEO said: "We had too many people who wanted to save the world"
that clearly states what he is up to at least. So what sort of company is this man running ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-grandia/bp-ceo-hayward-we-had-too_b_585610.html 
"Too bad Tony Hayward hadn't spent more time thinking about "saving the world." Maybe this disaster would have never happened if he had.
Too bad BP tried to pretend they were something they weren't because now not only is the public outraged, they don't trust a single thing the company has to say."

Do you believe them when they say that they will pay all "Legitimate Claims" ? They will never be able to pay for the extinction of sea animals who will have disappeared forever they cannot, but are still bratty.

BP Says It Will Pay All 'Legitimate Claims': What Does That Mean?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/24/bp-says-it-will-pay-all-l_n_587145.html

Whenever a businessman had made a mistake no matter which company was concerned in the end it was always the customers who paid. Hence those boycott initiatives which can be found in the internet  are the only viable way to avoid this.

If you want to do something about it you will find many boycott initiatives, one of them is:  http://last-lost-empire.com/blog/?p=244 or http://boycottbp.org/why
much more can be found by google search:

Interesting questions would still be:
" Are BP's legal costs, cleanup costs and liabilities available as corporate tax write-off's?
 
If so, is there any way for US citizens to refuse to subsidize BP's mistakes? "


 

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/25/2010 7:59:21 PM   
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Just has to quote another one I just found in the internet:
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[email protected] 2 weeks ago
Seems like you're in the pocket of big oil really... brainwashed into believing that the combustion engine is top of the line technology. Did you know that Swiss technology has allowed for their oil rigs to have a shut off valve that our AMERICAN industries refuse to spend the money on? Now there are three hundred year old sea turtles lying poisoned and dead on the shores of the ocean because of AMERICAN greed and ignorance. So being the complacent comsumer that I am.... call me what you will... I can't and won't condone business practices that threaten the entire well being of the planet in the name of the almighty dollar...it won't be my dollar at any rate... It may be the only power I have in this capitolistic society we live in... "

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/25/2010 8:05:06 PM   
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Referring the above title "Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War?"
The destruction of just TWO twin towers was nothing against the destruction of an entire coast, sea life and existence of families and damages to the entire planet when the crap continues spreading in water and air which BP caused.
So I wonder when the US President will send his troops to UK to bomb them because anything else would not be consistent. When they bomb Iraq because of two twin towers they have to bomb the UK too now because the damage caused by BP is much bigger and extincted animals cannot be replaced.

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RE: Was the Gulf Oil Spill an Act of War? You Betcha - 5/25/2010 8:19:32 PM   
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And found that in the internet too:

Lee Stevens says: May 3, 2010 at 10:01 pmBP was key to the Libayan Terrorist that bombed the flight at Lockerbee be released so they could get at the millions of barrels there. The oil companies have sworn that the shut off valves would work in such a catastrophe.None of the oil companies pay their fare share in corporate taxes. They have released 100s of thousands of gallons of crude into the oceans and fouled beaches from Gallapagos to Europe to Alaska. In the USA we have a 30 day supply of emergency oil.If for any of a number reasons the oil stops the USA economy and world economies come to a grinding halt.Last years run up in gas was because of market manipulation. Not one President has the guts to do what needs to be done and that is switch USA off oil Now. The Telsa electric car has proven beyond a shaddow of a doubt that electric cars work. We have no alternative fuel for jet airplanes and may need oil way into the future for that.

So waiting for UK to be bombed now

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