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Mercnbeth -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 10:38:08 AM)
quote: where can i go to renounce my citizenship ( i have no allegiance to this or any country) go to a country other than the United States and appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer and sign an oath of renunciation. ETA: A person who wants to renounce U.S. citizenship cannot decide to retain some of the privileges of citizenship, as this would be logically inconsistent with the concept of renunciation. Thus, such a person can be said to lack a full understanding of renouncing citizenship and/or lack the necessary intent to renounce citizenship, and the Department of State will not approve a loss of citizenship in such instances. More Info

mnottertail -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 10:40:28 AM)
that means he loses his welfare, and meds and whatnot.

belladevine -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 10:53:17 AM)
oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Nobody wants to lose the MEDS! Who would want to go back to living in reality man???

mnottertail -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 10:54:54 AM)
Reality can be its own trip, bel. Circumcised Master

belladevine -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 10:58:13 AM)
PROTECT THE POPPIES Life is beautiful!

DomYngBlk -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 11:12:40 AM)
You may be turning into Tony Robbins

Real0ne -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 12:07:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: where can i go to renounce my citizenship ( i have no allegiance to this or any country) go to a country other than the United States and appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer and sign an oath of renunciation. ETA: A person who wants to renounce U.S. citizenship cannot decide to retain some of the privileges of citizenship, as this would be logically inconsistent with the concept of renunciation. Thus, such a person can be said to lack a full understanding of renouncing citizenship and/or lack the necessary intent to renounce citizenship, and the Department of State will not approve a loss of citizenship in such instances. More Info ok but which united states? United States of America? United States territory? or United States Inc? Therein lies the conundrum. Which united states have I divorced? :)

thompsonx -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 2:58:28 PM)
quote: Which united states have I divorced? :) Which one do you want to divorce?

mnottertail -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 3:00:31 PM)
Inasmuch as he is divorced from reality, couldn't he do them all in one fell swoop by placing his feet in a flower pot, adding water and invoking admiralty law in the name of the pope and crown?

LadyAngelika -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:10:15 PM)
Damn. A real submissive American soldier is on leave, posting on the boards and no one notified me? What is wrong with you people? ;-) - LA

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:33:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy domiguy: What about the testimony of all the others who supported John Kerry that served directly under him? ann coulter'sface chair..."They had nothing to do with the question of which Swift Boat Veteran for Truth member actually served with John Kerry. Unlike you, I stick to the topic, and remain engaged in a point by point debate." You so easily discount all of the people that served with John Kerry and some were there when he received his medals that to this day support him. Let's reconstruct the conversation that I was involved with: "now who among them actually served with Kerry, on the boat, and were there when he won his medals?" -mnottertail dodging RacerJim's question "Why not just answer the questions? Oh yeah, you can't or else your argument flies right out of the window. Good luck convincing yourself you are right." -RacerJim demanding that mnottertail stick to the topic "Answer: Zero. Thanks for playing, and don't forget your parting gifts." -mnottertail continuing to dodge RacerJim's topic. "One of the Swift Boat Veterans, Steve Gardner, served on John Kerry's boat, with John Kerry, as one of his gunners." -herfacechair answering mnottertail, and proving him wrong. That exchange had NOTHING to do with you trying to bring up other people's quotes. It had everything to do with the question of whether any of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth SERVED ON JOHN KERRY's BOAT OR NOT!. You subsequently quoted Slanted Snopes to bring up an unrelated point... statements of people who served with John Kerry. You were talking about an unrelated topic. That doesn't prove your point that I'm "discounting" anybody you dumbass. None of the quotes you brought up, with the exception of Gardner's quote, hand anything to do with the question being dealt with in that exchange. domiguy: You are a liar. Did Steve Gardner serve in Kerry's Boat? YES [ ] NO [ ] Just copy and paste that question, along with the options, and place an "X" in the appropriate option. Spare me your bullshit. Here, let me give you a cheat, from your own post: "only one of them, Steve Gardner, actually served under Lt. Kerry's command on a swift boat." -Slanted Snopes link from Dummyguy's post If you chose "yes," then you prove your comments about me "being a liar" wrong. If you chose "no," then you prove yourself to be a liar, and someone that's just talking out of his ass. If you FAIL to answer this per instruction, then you prove Ann Coulter right: ]"Their contribution to political debate is worthless, since even they do not believe things they say." - Ann Coulter domiguy: You are a closed minded pathetic conservative. Don't dismiss my refusing to accept garbage and trash as my being "closed minded." And I don't see you running to accept facts that contradict your world views, so this is a classic case of pot calling the kettle black... this makes you a hypocrite. domiguy: You have not the capability to answer a question that places your beliefs in jeopardy...So you just dismiss them. That's precisely what your doing with the questions I've been asking you. Don't dismiss my refusing to answer a question that has nothing to do with the topic as my "not have the capability" to answer. Two, don't mistake my jumping on you for refusing to entertain your strawman arguments as my "not having the capability" to answer your questions. Answer my questions first before you demand that I answer yours, or before you get on my case for "not" answering your strawman argument questions. domiguy: I don't believe you. And this assclown accuses me of being "close minded." Go ahead, I DARE you to answer my Yes and No questions per instructions, without your bullshit. Until you do, you're "I don't believe you" comment is nothing but you using hot air to flap your lips in the wind. domiguy: You are as transparent If your "assessments" of me, and who I am, are anything like your firing aim, I'd hate to be the guy behind you when you try to shoot a target in front of you. domiguy: as you are unintelligent. If that "were" the case, your "intelligence" should make it easy for you to answer my questions above, per instructions, without your bullshit. If you can't, or refuse, to answer my question, then you prove that I'm more intelligent than you are. Heck, I'd say that I'm 100% more intelligent than you, but 100 times 0 ends up as zero, so I won't make such comparisons. domiguy: I place no value on you or your service. You don't place value on the backgrounds of anybody that dares present facts that cause your LALA LALA Land version of reality to go up in flames. domiguy: I don't believe you at all. Then answer the above "Yes" or "No" question. What you're really saying is that you'd rather hold on to what you think reality is, instead of accepting reality for what it actually is. domiguy: You are an embarrassment to anyone who has ever served. Don't mistake my facts, embarrassing anybody who has ever served bullshit, as me being an embarrassment to anybody that has served. domiguy: Go Fuck yourself! More than likely the sentiment of any women that refuses to lower her standards when you try to inspire them with awe with your stupidity.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:34:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149 Back from the beach......fucking windy........just like here No, that's just your head echoing against the walls.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:36:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy You still didn't address the fact that everyone aside from ONE person that served under Kerry has said nothing or only positive things about him. The mini conversation that I jumped into had nothing to do with who said what about Kerry. It dealt with the argument as to whether any of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth members served with John Kerry, on his boat, or not. Steve Gardner proves the argument, "That non of the Swift Boat Vets served with Kerry on his boat," WRONG. Whether you find quotes from people not part of the Swift Boat Vets for Truth organization or not is beside the point, and isn't a topic to the arguments that I'm a part off. It qualifies as a red herring statement. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy You are a liar. You never served. You are supposedly on leave. Then accept my challenge in that regard. I've offered to show my documents (including my DA 31) to someone, who'll come on this board and verify that I'm in the military. Until you accept that challenge, you're not qualified to make that statement. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Glad to know you are spending your time with us in lieu of people that actually might give a shit about your existence. You're actually pissed that I keep coming back to destroy you people's arguments. But again, this is a common comment from people on other message boards when they can't handle my conduct on these threads. Maybe I should create an auto responder... "If you think that I should be doing something else other than showing you how fucked up you and your arguments are, please click "my pussy hurts." Are you as blind as a bat that you can't see the posts made by those that support me? So much for your, "don't give a shit about your existence," comments. And look at the timing of my posts, not exactly someone that stays on this board to the exclusion of everything else. Unlike you, I have a life outside of this board, and I'm interacting with it. Perhaps you should try getting a life instead of bitching about my coming here. I didn't expect you people to give a shit about my existence. You people just want me to disappear from here so that I won't call your bullshit out. NOT HAPPENING. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy You are full of shit and a liar. Then answer the questions that I've asked you, per instructions. Considering that the logical answer would prove your comment here wrong, I won't be surprised if you continue to ignore those questions. I just love the way you consistently prove Ann Coulter right: "Their contribution to political debate is worthless, since even they do not believe things they say." - Ann Coulter

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:38:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Don't you have to go and get to Iraq soon, You have a hard time getting me to leave this discussion, don't you? So you're counting down the days till when I do have to go back there. So let me clue you in on something: It doesn't matter if I don't get back with you today or tomorrow. If I don't get back to you today, I'll get back to you tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, next decade, "next century," and even the next lifetime. So even if I don't get back to you as a result of my going back to Iraq, I'll get back to you, and everybody else on this thread, when I get back... Which will be weeks after I get back there. So can it with your hopes that I leave this thread alone, not happening. I mean, that's like hoping that an alcoholic stops going to the bar down the street. Not happening until that bar stops selling alcohol, then that alcoholic would stop going to that bar down the road. If you, or the people I'm debating with, are intelligent "compared" to me as you insinuate, they'd notice the hint in what I had just said. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy You have never been there have you? Until you accept my challenge, to prove my service and deployment, you don't have a leg to stand on when making these kinds of statements.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:40:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Don't you have to go and get blown up soon? I htink he has a posting bot Ben accused of this on another message board as well. Something about there being nothing but a keyboard supplying the replies, with me being elsewhere. Considering that I've been doing this for years, I've got this down to a science... to include storing resources I keep using over and over again, folders on my desktop containing saved copies of my debates, and posting procedures. To the dummy's comment about my getting blown up: You'd want that don't you? If I get "blown up," that'll only mean that I don't come back here to pulverize your bodies and you. But do take comfort in this. The hadjis have tried to take my battles and me out, to include mortar, IED, and small arms fire. No success. It has gotten to the point to where we go about our business when hadj tries to mortar our base. They constantly miss. But of course, you guys don't know that, as the criminally liberal biased media doesn't like to report enemy setbacks and failures. It goes against their attempts to make the enemy something he isn't when it comes to fighting wars.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:41:33 PM)
mikeyOfGeorgia: it's not America's place to police the world. Hate to break this out to you, but every country in the world is going to pursue its interests. Go around the world, listen to another country's regional media. You'll see evidence of one country exerting its influence, and desires on other countries. Just look at the Chinese, and the big bully tactics they're demonstrating in their region, against their neighbors. The Vietnamese and Filipinos are complaining, for instance, of Chinese surveillance efforts in their waters... never mind that the disputed islands are away from the waters they've chased the Chinese out of. Every country has interests, and they're pursing these interests at a global, continental, regional, and local level. This is the case today, this has been the case throughout our history. Heck, even the American Indians were playing this game prior to the European's arrival to the Americas. As long as we're human beings, with human thought and desires, we're always going to have this game being played out. The United States simply does this the best, behind us are the rest of the countries that fall under Western Civilization. If the United States wasn't doing on a global scale what we're doing now, another country would be in the drivers seat. As long as we're in existence as humans, this is going to be the cold hard reality that we face. mikeyOfGeorgia: America is full of BS If you feel that way, then nobody is forcing you to live here. There are other countries in the world that you could live in... if you think you could find some other place that you feel "isn't" full of BS. mikeyOfGeorgia: and the only thing it's good at is dictating to the world what they should do or not so. Actions that other countries around the world are guilty off. Just ask the Brazilians, when they strong armed their neighbors in order for them to vote Brazil's way on the UN Security Council. How about Russia, and their strong arm tactics with their neighbors when they suspect that these countries are about to move into NATO's sphere of influence? Remember when we were about to recognize Kosovo's independence? Serbia threatened "sanctions" against the countries that recognized Kosovo. Again, something like this is going to happen regardless of whether we're around or not. mikeyOfGeorgia: Kinda like Hitler I don't see the United States capturing and annexing countries around the world today. Those countries that we've entered, we do stabilization then we leave. Iraq and Afghanistan run their own affairs... we're ultimately going to leave those countries. Hitler had no such intentions. He had to be forced out. mikeyOfGeorgia: and ancient Germany. Ancient Germany? Serious? Germany didn't start coming together as a "country" or "nation" until early in the 19th Century.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:43:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia it's not America's place to police the world. Who would you suggest do it? quote: America is full of BS Such as? Or are you refering to the fact that we have flush toliets? quote: and the only thing it's good at is dictating to the world what they should do or not so. Yeah. Right. That is why everyone does things the "American" way. And why children have been sent home from school for wearing t-shirts with the American flag on them. [8\|] quote: Kinda like Hitler and ancient Germany. I am now invoking Godwin's Law. Reductio Ad Hitlerum. That's right. Every country that I've been to was in one stage or another of westernization, aka, "Americanizing." The people do it willingly, strive to become more like "Americans." Examples of this are Iraqis wearing sunglasses that look like our ballistics eye wear, and Iraqi kids not just speaking English, but using the same style specific to the Army.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:44:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: belladevine I hope you get called to Afghanistan soon. I hear the poppies are a poppin and they will be hittin our streets soon. Isn't it great that US troops protect the Inter-National Botany Society. We get a "two year" dwell time between deployments, unless we sign a waiver. NATO, and the Afghani Army, are already over there... US Soldiers have already been out destroying drug related crops.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:46:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: belladevine I am sure you are very concientious patriotic American (aren't we all), but I think your government has it's fist shoved waaaaaay to far up in your ass. I suspect you have no clue what you are doing in Iraq, or in the military. You are a mind muddled American Grunt. Why do you grunt......cause you take it in the ass by crooked politicians....just like everybody else. You need to seek psychological help. Serious. You sound like a woman that got molested or rapped when she was younger, or maybe after you reached adulthood. You must have had something shoved up your ass. You come across as a confused woman that made a series of wrong choices in her life... choices that turned out to be stupid ones, leading you to live a hard, miserable life. You also come across as someone that blames others for your troubles... a belief that you hold that has contributed to your miserable life. Your failure to recover from the train wreck, what people around you label "your life," and your failure to pin blame for your self-inflicted miseries on yourself, has lead to you generating posts like these. Posts that indicate that you have your head shoved so far up your ass that you need a glass belly button to see. Before you suspect what I know, or don't know, how about READING what I've posted here? I've dropped enough posts here to give you an insight on my understanding of why we're in Iraq. HINT, you'll find one post explaining my understanding on page 15, post number 297. No wait, you're blinded by your apparent hatred of men... as seen by your attacking me without even entertaining what I say... attacking the military, a symbol of us MEN, and Arab Culture, a place with strong MALE dominance. You remind me of a woman that I clashed with in 2003 after coming back from Iraq the first time. Went by the name "Beepath Skyclad Loneflight." Same vitriolic hatred demonstrated in her posts. Get some help, then maybe you'd be able to post something halfway decent.

herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/10/2010 4:51:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Angelsmile Can any veteran tell me please how dangerous it is for an American to be sent to Afghanistan at the moment ? Is it not dangerous, dangerous or very dangerous ? And are there any good advices of how to protect him ? Thanks in advance for an answer from someone who has really been there. Angelsmile First off, Aylee made a relevant comment. Why haven't you provided that information? If GWOT Veterans saw the MOS, they'd be able to focus their replies to something applicable for your soldier. Not everybody that's deployed to Iraq/Afghanistan crosses the wire, that might dictate what kind of advice you'll get. So we need to know what MOS this individual is. Second, the combat zone is still dangerous for westerners. Consequently, your soldier will get kitted, lock and loaded, prior to crossing the wire. Basic battle drills don't change because one hasn't been to Afghanistan. The laws of physics don't change either. What does change is the type and difficulty of the mission. Now, let's assume that this person holds a combat arms MOS. The first thing this person needs to do is to get his battle drills down. This should've already happened prior to you coming here; your soldier's unit is responsible for getting him trained up. If they're infantry, they want to be able to work in any position within a fire team. Their actions have to be muscle memory, quick, swift, automatic and in the proper form. Reflexive fire and MOUT clearing exercises contribute to muscle memory. Once in theater, this person has to conduct weapons maintenance and functions check. The region is coming out of a wet season... it's already getting hotter and drier... and dust storms will be more frequent; this tends to have some adverse affects on weapons and equipment. This person has to get into the habit of cleaning his weapons and doing weapons maintenance, twice a week at a bare minimum when no major physical/meteorological activity takes place... before and after a mission, after shooting is done for the day/operation, and every day during a dust storm in a protected area. Take care of your weapon, a major reason to why M16s/M4s jam is because the weapon is dirty, not properly maintained, not function checked etc. If this person is part of a mounted team, then he/she should also be on top of Level 10 PMCS and QAQC for his assigned vehicle. He should treat his assigned vehicle like it's his own. If he goes to the motor-pool for Vehicle QAQC, he should stay with the vehicle, and do as much as possible to help the mechanics. This person should be well versed on mounted react to contact, and recovery, procedures. He should also be proficient at CLS. Even though they no longer require instruction on sticking another soldier with an IV, your soldier should learn how to do that and get proficient at it. Notice that this advice relies heavily on what the soldier could do to mitigate the dangers against him. Outside of going out to conduct ground assaults to capture HVTs, your soldier will have to do things on his end to mitigate risks resulting from the threats he faces.

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