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ORIGINAL: tigreetsa

I'm sorry but the OP lost all credibility when he mentioned the reporter who 'wasn't minding their own business' and being stupid being shot.

Not wishing to belittle the OP's service to his country in any way but just because you're a soldier there in the action doesn't make you an expert and belittling the work of the journalists - who do go into those areas unarmed, equipped with cameras and quite specifically not to mind their own business - is quite frankly disgusting and distasteful.

Consider that if it wasn't for these journalists not minding their business and going into these areas then there wouldn't be sources to back up intelligence and you and your buddies in the military uniforms would be in even greater danger than you are now.

Just spare a thought for those people who aren't in the military who've also gone to great risks and given their lives and consider how their actions have contributed not just to your safety but also your success.

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Wrong. Even the 9/11 report acknowledged that there were at least two terror groups in Iraq that were a part of Al Qaeda. Then we had Salman Pak, terror training camp in Iraq, that trained terrorists to do things, like hijact aircraft. The last Iraqi commander in charge of that post admitted to training Al Qaeda. So there were terrorists in Iraq. The Iraqis call Saddam, "the grandfather of terrorism." The terrorists are in Iraq today, albeit with a lesser presence than before thanks to our efforts.

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Clarke has written that on the evening of September 12, President Bush told him and some of his staff to explore possible Iraqi links to 9/11. "See if Sad-dam did this," Clarke recalls the President telling them. "See if he's linked in any way."60 While he believed the details of Clarke's account to be incorrect, President Bush acknowledged that he might well have spoken to Clarke at some point, asking him about Iraq.61

Responding to a presidential tasking, Clarke's office sent a memo to Rice on September 18, titled "Survey of Intelligence Information on Any Iraq Involvement in the September 11 Attacks." Rice's chief staffer on Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, concurred in its conclusion that only some anecdotal evidence linked Iraq to al Qaeda. The memo found no "compelling case" that Iraq had either planned or perpetrated the attacks. It passed along a few foreign intelligence reports, including the Czech report alleging an April 2001 Prague meeting between Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer (discussed in chapter 7) and a Polish report that personnel at the headquarters of Iraqi intelligence in Baghdad were told before September 11 to go on the streets to gauge crowd reaction to an unspecified event. Arguing that the case for links between Iraq and al Qaeda was weak, the memo pointed out that Bin Ladin resented the secularism of Saddam Hussein's regime. Finally, the memo said, there was no confirmed reporting on Saddam cooperating with Bin Ladin on unconventional weapons.62

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Secretary Powell recalled that Wolfowitz-not Rumsfeld-argued that Iraq was ultimately the source of the terrorist problem and should therefore be attacked.66 Powell said that Wolfowitz was not able to justify his belief that Iraq was behind 9/11. "Paul was always of the view that Iraq was a problem that had to be dealt with," Powell told us. "And he saw this as one way of using this event as a way to deal with the Iraq problem." Powell said that President Bush did not give Wolfowitz's argument "much weight."67 Though continuing to worry about Iraq in the following week, Powell said, President Bush saw Afghanistan as the priority.68

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Does that have anything to do with this thread, Pa?

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Does that have anything to do with this thread, Pa?

When Pahunk goes to the grocery store and they ask paper or plastic sir the answer is 7 was imploded.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Man if I were there I'd be doing all kinds of shit to them!

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Popeye, facechair says he is here to answer questions.... but only those which are not inconvenient for his propaganda bias. Don't confuse him.

I'm back, this time for 2 years instead of 2 weeks.

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair

It doesn't matter if I don't get back with you today or tomorrow. If I don't get back to you today, I'll get back to you tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, next decade, "next century," and even the next lifetime.

So even if I don't get back to you as a result of my going back to Iraq, I'll get back to you, and everybody else on this thread, when I get back... Which will be weeks after I get back there. So can it with your hopes that I leave this thread alone, not happening.

I mean, that's like hoping that an alcoholic stops going to the bar down the street. Not happening until that bar stops selling alcohol, then that alcoholic would stop going to that bar down the road. If you, or the people I'm debating with, are intelligent "compared" to me as you insinuate, they'd notice the hint in what I had just said.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

And guess what? The people that I've shown these types of comments to have been a lot more brutal in their reaction than I was.


Are we supposed to be scared or something??

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ORIGINAL: SohCahToa

They say that military personnel don't get enough R and R these days. I'd guess that spending time being baited on a BDSM site doesn't count as R or R.

33 pages is quite good if you've nothing else you'd rather be doing with your time, say spending it with the family etc.