herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/20/2010 5:33:41 PM)
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thompsonx:The only thing you have won is the amused disgust of your peers on cm for your constant lies. I won by advancing a logical, reasoned argument backed by research and experience. The opposition advanced nothing but misconceptions, lies, red herring statements, strawman arguments, repeat points, zero fact rhetoric etc. Simply put, you guys had no argument, yet you arrogantly tried to continue to argue when you should've had the integrity to cede the fight and move on. Anybody dismissing my factual accounts as "lies" is being intellectually dishonest at best, out-right liars at worse. My peers on cm thanked me for my service, and have either agreed with me here, or pointed out the elephant in the room to the opposition. The opposition? They're nowhere near to being my peers. The fact that they'd be disgusted at me is a given, this always happens here no matter what... and it happens on other message boards. Disgust is what your kind expresses towards me, and others, who dare stand up for the facts in the face of collective stupidity and ignorance. thompsonx: Your daddy served six years in viet nam...yeah right. Repeat Point. All you did was give your opinion that my dad "didn't" serve in Vietnam. I countered you with the facts, that he did 6 combat tours in Vietnam... I saw his old award orders for one of the combat tours that he did. Unlike you, my dad served. You could sit there, having never served, and fart the opinion that my dad "didn't" serve all you want, that doesn't change the fact that unlike you, he served in Vietnam. This wasn't a contention, but fact. thomsponx: WMD in iraq....yeah right. Repeat Point. Again, you're trying to dismiss the fact that sarin and mustard agents used against our troops in Iraq "were not" WMD. Then you changed that to "agents that didn't work," which amounted to intellectual dishonesty on your part. Tell that to the service members that got treated at a clinic for exposure to a chemical agent. Tell the Iraqis that got treated for mustard agent exposure that the "burn marks" they got all over their abdomens were caused by WMD that didn't work. Fact of the matter is that mustard, sarin, and blister agents are chemical agents, HENCE are Weapons of Mass destruction. Since they were used in Iraq post invasion, Iraq HAD WMD. Again, this is FACT, not contention. thompsonx: No damage to iraqi infrastructure by u.s. bombing...yeah right. Repeat point + strawman argument. I never said that we didn't damage any part of Iraqi infrastructure. I argued, based on fact, that the vast majority of the destruction of Iraqi Infrastructure resulted from DECAY due to lack of maintenance and upkeep. REMEMBER, unlike you, I was there. I saw their infrastructure, and there was no way in hell that all that decay, wear and tear resulted from our invasion of Iraq. Your opinion, that we "destroyed," the "majority or all" of their infrastructure simply defies common sense. Again, what I say here is fact based on personally seeing their infrastructure, not contention. In every one of those instances, you FAILED to prove your point. All you did was fart the opinion that you claim that you addressed above. I came back and proved you wrong with a reasoned argument backed by one or both, my experiences in Iraq, and my extensive research on the topics I've debated on this thread. thompsonx: Halliburton is not making any money in the sand box...yeah right. Repeat point + strawman argument You argued that Halliburton was involved with Iraq contracts. These contracts entailed reconstruction and supplies and services. Halliburton's own website denies these. It's then subsidiary, KBR, provided the logistics services. You insinuated that Halliburton provided these services, when it was KBR that provided these services. It speaks volumes about your "debate" ability when you have to resort to revising history to make it look like we were arguing something completely different. thompsonx: enlisted men can kick the shit out of officers with no reprecussions...yeah right. Repeat Point + Strawman argument Wrong, I never said that enlisted men can kick the shit out officers with no repercussions. I talked about a scenario where officers issued stupid orders, they were presented with better options, they chose the stupid option, the enlisted carry the orders out, people get injured/killed, officer subsequently gets knocked on his azz. Nowhere in there do I even insinuate that it's OK kick the shit out of officers. I'm just explaining what actually happens in certain circumstances. All you did here is present a strawman argument; you took me out of context, addressed what you think I said instead of what I actually said, then turn around and claim that I contended something that wasn't even anywhere near what I was getting across. So you never really addressed this point, and you definitely failed to prove me "wrong."
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